Is the crashed airliner event broken?

traius · Jul 24, 2014

I got it twice in 3 turns, giving the AI a free 40% of Flight IIRC....

TheMulattoMaker · Jul 24, 2014

Apparently the RNG in your game is trying to imitate events IRL...

JofOblie · Jul 25, 2014

Lol, I thought this thread was going to be a joke in bad taste -.-;

traius · Jul 25, 2014

Wow, the damned event happened a 3rd time, 10 turns later. 3 times in 13 turns.

Lord Bigfoot · Jul 25, 2014

traius said:
Wow, the damned event happened a 3rd time, 10 turns later. 3 times in 13 turns.

Has the Civ 4 AI become sentient and is trying to replicate what's been happening in RL lately?

BlackArc · Jul 26, 2014

What's the crashed airliner event?

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reddishrecue · Jul 26, 2014

^^huh... i haven't seen that in some time..

Lemon Merchant · Jul 27, 2014

After not seeing it in ages, I just finished a game where it happened six times. It's definitely broken as far as I'm concerned.

Rusty Edge · Jul 28, 2014

It does seem to cluster in the game.

I wonder what the qualifiers are. Flight and closed borders?

AW Arcaeca · Jul 28, 2014

Rusty Edge said:
It does seem to cluster in the game.

I wonder what the qualifiers are. Flight and closed borders?

Looking through the XML apparently there are 4 distinctly different "crashed airliner" events, none of which have any requirements whatsoever except for the 3rd one, which requires one of the players to have Flight, and which has a 50% chance to trigger Airliner Crash type 4.

...That can't be right... :hmm:

XML in question:

Spoiler :

Code:

		<EventInfo>
			<Type>EVENT_AIRLINER_CRASH_1</Type>
			<Description>TXT_KEY_EVENT_AIRLINER_CRASH_1</Description>
			<LocalInfoText/>
			<WorldNewsTexts/>
			<OtherPlayerPopup>TXT_KEY_EVENT_AIRLINER_CRASH_OTHER_1</OtherPlayerPopup>
			<QuestFailText/>
			<bQuest>0</bQuest>
			<bGlobal>0</bGlobal>
			<bTeam>0</bTeam>
			<bPickCity>0</bPickCity>
			<bPickOtherPlayerCity>0</bPickOtherPlayerCity>
			<bDeclareWar>0</bDeclareWar>
			<iGold>0</iGold>
			<bGoldToPlayer>0</bGoldToPlayer>
			<iRandomGold>0</iRandomGold>
			<iCulture>0</iCulture>
			<iEspionagePoints>0</iEspionagePoints>
			<bGoldenAge>0</bGoldenAge>
			<iFreeUnitSupport>0</iFreeUnitSupport>
			<iInflationMod>0</iInflationMod>
			<iSpaceProductionMod>0</iSpaceProductionMod>
			<Tech>NONE</Tech>
			<TechFlavors/>
			<iTechPercent>0</iTechPercent>
			<iTechCostPercent>0</iTechCostPercent>
			<iTechMinTurnsLeft>0</iTechMinTurnsLeft>
			<PrereqTech>NONE</PrereqTech>
			<UnitClass>NONE</UnitClass>
			<iNumFreeUnits>0</iNumFreeUnits>
			<bDisbandUnit>0</bDisbandUnit>
			<iUnitExperience>0</iUnitExperience>
			<iUnitImmobileTurns>0</iUnitImmobileTurns>
			<UnitPromotion/>
			<UnitName/>
			<UnitCombatPromotions/>
			<UnitClassPromotions/>
			<BuildingClass>NONE</BuildingClass>
			<iBuildingChange>0</iBuildingChange>
			<BuildingExtraYields/>
			<BuildingExtraCommerces/>
			<BuildingExtraHappies/>
			<BuildingExtraHealths/>
			<iHappy>0</iHappy>
			<iHealth>0</iHealth>
			<iHurryAnger>0</iHurryAnger>
			<iHappyTurns>0</iHappyTurns>
			<iRevoltTurns>0</iRevoltTurns>
			<iMinPillage>0</iMinPillage>
			<iMaxPillage>0</iMaxPillage>
			<iFood>0</iFood>
			<iFoodPercent>0</iFoodPercent>
			<FreeSpecialistCounts/>
			<FeatureType>NONE</FeatureType>
			<iFeatureChange>0</iFeatureChange>
			<ImprovementType>NONE</ImprovementType>
			<iImprovementChange>0</iImprovementChange>
			<BonusType>NONE</BonusType>
			<iBonusChange>0</iBonusChange>
			<RouteType>NONE</RouteType>
			<iRouteChange>0</iRouteChange>
			<BonusRevealed>NONE</BonusRevealed>
			<BonusGift>NONE</BonusGift>
			<PlotExtraYields/>
			<iConvertOwnCities>0</iConvertOwnCities>
			<iConvertOtherCities>0</iConvertOtherCities>
			<iMaxNumReligions>-1</iMaxNumReligions>
			<iOurAttitudeModifier>1</iOurAttitudeModifier>
			<iAttitudeModifier>1</iAttitudeModifier>
			<iTheirEnemyAttitudeModifier>0</iTheirEnemyAttitudeModifier>
			<iPopulationChange>0</iPopulationChange>
			<AdditionalEvents/>
			<EventTimes/>
			<ClearEvents/>
			<PythonCallback/>
			<PythonExpireCheck/>
			<PythonCanDo/>
			<PythonHelp/>
			<Button>,Art/Interface/Buttons/Process/Blank.dds,Art/Interface/Buttons/Beyond_the_Sword_Atlas.dds,8,5</Button>
			<iAIValue>1000</iAIValue>
		</EventInfo>
		<EventInfo>
			<Type>EVENT_AIRLINER_CRASH_2</Type>
			<Description>TXT_KEY_EVENT_AIRLINER_CRASH_2</Description>
			<LocalInfoText/>
			<WorldNewsTexts/>
			<OtherPlayerPopup>TXT_KEY_EVENT_AIRLINER_CRASH_OTHER_2</OtherPlayerPopup>
			<QuestFailText/>
			<bQuest>0</bQuest>
			<bGlobal>0</bGlobal>
			<bTeam>0</bTeam>
			<bPickCity>0</bPickCity>
			<bPickOtherPlayerCity>0</bPickOtherPlayerCity>
			<bDeclareWar>0</bDeclareWar>
			<iGold>0</iGold>
			<bGoldToPlayer>0</bGoldToPlayer>
			<iRandomGold>0</iRandomGold>
			<iCulture>0</iCulture>
			<iEspionagePoints>1000</iEspionagePoints>
			<bGoldenAge>0</bGoldenAge>
			<iFreeUnitSupport>0</iFreeUnitSupport>
			<iInflationMod>0</iInflationMod>
			<iSpaceProductionMod>0</iSpaceProductionMod>
			<Tech>NONE</Tech>
			<TechFlavors/>
			<iTechPercent>0</iTechPercent>
			<iTechCostPercent>0</iTechCostPercent>
			<iTechMinTurnsLeft>0</iTechMinTurnsLeft>
			<PrereqTech>NONE</PrereqTech>
			<UnitClass>NONE</UnitClass>
			<iNumFreeUnits>0</iNumFreeUnits>
			<bDisbandUnit>0</bDisbandUnit>
			<iUnitExperience>0</iUnitExperience>
			<iUnitImmobileTurns>0</iUnitImmobileTurns>
			<UnitPromotion/>
			<UnitName/>
			<UnitCombatPromotions/>
			<UnitClassPromotions/>
			<BuildingClass>NONE</BuildingClass>
			<iBuildingChange>0</iBuildingChange>
			<BuildingExtraYields/>
			<BuildingExtraCommerces/>
			<BuildingExtraHappies/>
			<BuildingExtraHealths/>
			<iHappy>0</iHappy>
			<iHealth>0</iHealth>
			<iHurryAnger>0</iHurryAnger>
			<iHappyTurns>0</iHappyTurns>
			<iRevoltTurns>0</iRevoltTurns>
			<iMinPillage>0</iMinPillage>
			<iMaxPillage>0</iMaxPillage>
			<iFood>0</iFood>
			<iFoodPercent>0</iFoodPercent>
			<FreeSpecialistCounts/>
			<FeatureType>NONE</FeatureType>
			<iFeatureChange>0</iFeatureChange>
			<ImprovementType>NONE</ImprovementType>
			<iImprovementChange>0</iImprovementChange>
			<BonusType>NONE</BonusType>
			<iBonusChange>0</iBonusChange>
			<RouteType>NONE</RouteType>
			<iRouteChange>0</iRouteChange>
			<BonusRevealed>NONE</BonusRevealed>
			<BonusGift>NONE</BonusGift>
			<PlotExtraYields/>
			<iConvertOwnCities>0</iConvertOwnCities>
			<iConvertOtherCities>0</iConvertOtherCities>
			<iMaxNumReligions>-1</iMaxNumReligions>
			<iOurAttitudeModifier>0</iOurAttitudeModifier>
			<iAttitudeModifier>0</iAttitudeModifier>
			<iTheirEnemyAttitudeModifier>0</iTheirEnemyAttitudeModifier>
			<iPopulationChange>0</iPopulationChange>
			<AdditionalEvents/>
			<EventTimes/>
			<ClearEvents/>
			<PythonCallback/>
			<PythonExpireCheck/>
			<PythonCanDo/>
			<PythonHelp/>
			<Button>,Art/Interface/Buttons/Process/Blank.dds,Art/Interface/Buttons/Beyond_the_Sword_Atlas.dds,8,5</Button>
			<iAIValue>1000</iAIValue>
		</EventInfo>
		<EventInfo>
			<Type>EVENT_AIRLINER_CRASH_3</Type>
			<Description>TXT_KEY_EVENT_AIRLINER_CRASH_3</Description>
			<LocalInfoText/>
			<WorldNewsTexts/>
			<OtherPlayerPopup>TXT_KEY_EVENT_AIRLINER_CRASH_OTHER_3</OtherPlayerPopup>
			<QuestFailText/>
			<bQuest>0</bQuest>
			<bGlobal>0</bGlobal>
			<bTeam>0</bTeam>
			<bPickCity>0</bPickCity>
			<bPickOtherPlayerCity>0</bPickOtherPlayerCity>
			<bDeclareWar>0</bDeclareWar>
			<iGold>0</iGold>
			<bGoldToPlayer>0</bGoldToPlayer>
			<iRandomGold>0</iRandomGold>
			<iCulture>0</iCulture>
			<iEspionagePoints>0</iEspionagePoints>
			<bGoldenAge>0</bGoldenAge>
			<iFreeUnitSupport>0</iFreeUnitSupport>
			<iInflationMod>0</iInflationMod>
			<iSpaceProductionMod>0</iSpaceProductionMod>
			<Tech>TECH_FLIGHT</Tech>
			<TechFlavors/>
			<iTechPercent>15</iTechPercent>
			<iTechCostPercent>0</iTechCostPercent>
			<iTechMinTurnsLeft>0</iTechMinTurnsLeft>
			<PrereqTech>NONE</PrereqTech>
			<UnitClass>NONE</UnitClass>
			<iNumFreeUnits>0</iNumFreeUnits>
			<bDisbandUnit>0</bDisbandUnit>
			<iUnitExperience>0</iUnitExperience>
			<iUnitImmobileTurns>0</iUnitImmobileTurns>
			<UnitPromotion/>
			<UnitName/>
			<UnitCombatPromotions/>
			<UnitClassPromotions/>
			<BuildingClass>NONE</BuildingClass>
			<iBuildingChange>0</iBuildingChange>
			<BuildingExtraYields/>
			<BuildingExtraCommerces/>
			<BuildingExtraHappies/>
			<BuildingExtraHealths/>
			<iHappy>0</iHappy>
			<iHealth>0</iHealth>
			<iHurryAnger>0</iHurryAnger>
			<iHappyTurns>0</iHappyTurns>
			<iRevoltTurns>0</iRevoltTurns>
			<iMinPillage>0</iMinPillage>
			<iMaxPillage>0</iMaxPillage>
			<iFood>0</iFood>
			<iFoodPercent>0</iFoodPercent>
			<FreeSpecialistCounts/>
			<FeatureType>NONE</FeatureType>
			<iFeatureChange>0</iFeatureChange>
			<ImprovementType>NONE</ImprovementType>
			<iImprovementChange>0</iImprovementChange>
			<BonusType>NONE</BonusType>
			<iBonusChange>0</iBonusChange>
			<RouteType>NONE</RouteType>
			<iRouteChange>0</iRouteChange>
			<BonusRevealed>NONE</BonusRevealed>
			<BonusGift>NONE</BonusGift>
			<PlotExtraYields/>
			<iConvertOwnCities>0</iConvertOwnCities>
			<iConvertOtherCities>0</iConvertOtherCities>
			<iMaxNumReligions>-1</iMaxNumReligions>
			<iOurAttitudeModifier>-2</iOurAttitudeModifier>
			<iAttitudeModifier>-2</iAttitudeModifier>
			<iTheirEnemyAttitudeModifier>0</iTheirEnemyAttitudeModifier>
			<iPopulationChange>0</iPopulationChange>
			<AdditionalEvents>
				<EventChance>
					<Event>EVENT_AIRLINER_CRASH_4</Event>
					<iEventChance>50</iEventChance>
				</EventChance>
			</AdditionalEvents>
			<EventTimes/>
			<ClearEvents/>
			<PythonCallback/>
			<PythonExpireCheck/>
			<PythonCanDo/>
			<PythonHelp/>
			<Button>,Art/Interface/Buttons/Process/Blank.dds,Art/Interface/Buttons/Beyond_the_Sword_Atlas.dds,8,5</Button>
			<iAIValue>1000</iAIValue>
		</EventInfo>
		<EventInfo>
			<Type>EVENT_AIRLINER_CRASH_4</Type>
			<Description/>
			<LocalInfoText/>
			<WorldNewsTexts/>
			<OtherPlayerPopup/>
			<QuestFailText/>
			<bQuest>0</bQuest>
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			<bTeam>0</bTeam>
			<bPickCity>0</bPickCity>
			<bPickOtherPlayerCity>0</bPickOtherPlayerCity>
			<bDeclareWar>0</bDeclareWar>
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			<bGoldToPlayer>0</bGoldToPlayer>
			<iRandomGold>0</iRandomGold>
			<iCulture>0</iCulture>
			<iEspionagePoints>0</iEspionagePoints>
			<bGoldenAge>0</bGoldenAge>
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			<iInflationMod>0</iInflationMod>
			<iSpaceProductionMod>0</iSpaceProductionMod>
			<Tech>TECH_FLIGHT</Tech>
			<TechFlavors/>
			<iTechPercent>20</iTechPercent>
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			<iTechMinTurnsLeft>0</iTechMinTurnsLeft>
			<PrereqTech>NONE</PrereqTech>
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			<iUnitImmobileTurns>0</iUnitImmobileTurns>
			<UnitPromotion/>
			<UnitName/>
			<UnitCombatPromotions/>
			<UnitClassPromotions/>
			<BuildingClass>NONE</BuildingClass>
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			<BuildingExtraYields/>
			<BuildingExtraCommerces/>
			<BuildingExtraHappies/>
			<BuildingExtraHealths/>
			<iHappy>0</iHappy>
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			<iHurryAnger>0</iHurryAnger>
			<iHappyTurns>0</iHappyTurns>
			<iRevoltTurns>0</iRevoltTurns>
			<iMinPillage>0</iMinPillage>
			<iMaxPillage>0</iMaxPillage>
			<iFood>0</iFood>
			<iFoodPercent>0</iFoodPercent>
			<FreeSpecialistCounts/>
			<FeatureType>NONE</FeatureType>
			<iFeatureChange>0</iFeatureChange>
			<ImprovementType>NONE</ImprovementType>
			<iImprovementChange>0</iImprovementChange>
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			<iBonusChange>0</iBonusChange>
			<RouteType>NONE</RouteType>
			<iRouteChange>0</iRouteChange>
			<BonusRevealed>NONE</BonusRevealed>
			<BonusGift>NONE</BonusGift>
			<PlotExtraYields/>
			<iConvertOwnCities>0</iConvertOwnCities>
			<iConvertOtherCities>0</iConvertOtherCities>
			<iMaxNumReligions>-1</iMaxNumReligions>
			<iOurAttitudeModifier>0</iOurAttitudeModifier>
			<iAttitudeModifier>0</iAttitudeModifier>
			<iTheirEnemyAttitudeModifier>0</iTheirEnemyAttitudeModifier>
			<iPopulationChange>0</iPopulationChange>
			<AdditionalEvents/>
			<EventTimes/>
			<ClearEvents/>
			<PythonCallback/>
			<PythonExpireCheck/>
			<PythonCanDo/>
			<PythonHelp/>
			<Button>,Art/Interface/Buttons/Process/Blank.dds,Art/Interface/Buttons/Beyond_the_Sword_Atlas.dds,8,5</Button>
			<iAIValue>1000</iAIValue>
		</EventInfo>

Or maybe... this the XML for the different responses? The events themselves seem to be handled with python...
EDIT: Doesn't seem to be in CvRandomEventInterface.py...
Oh well. I tried.

BlackArc · Jul 29, 2014

So... what's the crashed airliner event?

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isenchine · Jul 29, 2014

The event has 70% chance to be selected as a possible event for your game. It has a weight of 300, meaning that it has a high chance of appearing. Another player has Flight, you don't. You have close borders with him/her. It's for single player only.

Response 1 : nothing happens
Response 2 : you get 1000 espionage points
Response 3 : you get 15% of Flight's research cost (with negative attitude modifiers) and you get 50% chance to have the event again, this time with 20% of Flight's research cost.

Sometimes the game is desperate to find an event...

Edit: no python here. It's the CIV4EventTriggerInfos file that is checked for conditions needed to trigger the event.

traius · Jul 29, 2014

Ah. I didn't realize there was a 50% chance of it happening again (I guess because your people can't investigate why it happened). The response 1 though does have an effect. You get a +1 diplo boost.

isenchine · Jul 29, 2014

Oh yeah, I missed that from reading the file.

reddishrecue · Jul 30, 2014

Some of these events could be bugged.. I had a event where oil was found in the ancient era once... some events have a 1 time appearance or a one hit wonder thing to them.

traius · Jul 30, 2014

reddishrecue said:
Some of these events could be bugged.. I had a event where oil was found in the ancient era once... some events have a 1 time appearance or a one hit wonder thing to them.

Ah, the man named jed event. That one's not bugged, just super-rare . IIRC, you need a scout or an explorer to be standing on an unrevealed oil tile. Since many players don't even have any scouts that aren't the first scout unit (that usually dies from animals anyway), it's not even possible to get in many games. And even if you do, you have to, at the end of your turn, be standing on an oil when you have no idea where it is, and then you have a measly 2% chance of getting it, and that's only if the event is in the game you are playing, which it might not be.
That being said, I've had the event 2x, with the second happening only a few turns short of when I'd get sci meth anyway.

Chrysheight · Aug 25, 2014

Four simple words: You have bad luck :nuke:

CaterpillarKing · Aug 28, 2014

I had the same problem for a story I was making about Brazil. It happened about three times in five turns and I had to account each one for terrorism in the story but after the third time I got tired of it and made it very undramatic. The first one had an amazing story about a family in a building that got hit by a plane, kind of like 9/11.

Is the crashed airliner event broken?

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