Islamists formally establish parallel religious judicial system in Pakistan....

So wouldn't that make the radicals more likely to nuke those spots?

Yes, obviously much more likely than genuine, observant Muslims, but my point is, if they were to launch such an attack, let's not all get our clubs and torches and run after Muslims.

If Al-Qaeda or any other deviant organization launched a nuclear weapon that killed thousands or even millions of people, including Muslims, you'd find no better allies against them than the Muslim community.
 
I can't imagine that there would be any nuclear attack against Israel (by any truly Islamic organization),

I can. Palestinian Muslims are blowing themselves up in Jewish school buses, so I guess they'd use a nuke without any hesitation, if they had one.

because if one completely forgets the countless civilian deaths (which one shouldn't), there is still the fact that Israel is a very small country, 15% of its population is Arab, predominantly Muslim, and the West Bank/Gaza strip are in extremely close proximity, as are other Muslim countries.

You really think they care? They'd use it anyway and then say that those Muslims who died as a result were martyrs. That's what they always do.

Similarly, population centers in India and the West would be filled with civilians, and some among them would very likely be Muslims.

Same as above.

The point is, Al-Qaeda and other deviant organizations should never be confused with Islam, just because they happen to be Muslim.

But they claim to do everything they do in the name of Islam, so this is pretty irrelevant.
 
Yes, obviously much more likely than genuine, observant Muslims, but my point is, if they were to launch such an attack, let's not all get our clubs and torches and run after Muslims.

If Al-Qaeda or any other deviant organization launched a nuclear weapon that killed thousands or even millions of people, including Muslims, you'd find no better allies against them than the Muslim community.

If millions died I will absolutely gaurentee lots and lots of muslims will die in western countries, after all basically everyone will have lost a family member or relative.

Looks like pakistan is heading towards an islamic revolution to me.... and of course we will have to go in and pacify the situation. Well at least we are right there in afghanistan already anyways.
 
I can. Palestinian Muslims are blowing themselves up in Jewish school buses, so I guess they'd use a nuke without any hesitation, if they had one.
Jerusalem is one of the holiest cities in Islam. I doubt they'd risk it.
 
Jerusalem is one of the holiest cities in Islam. I doubt they'd risk it.

If they did, you know these terrorists wouldnt be around anymore. :mischief:
 
I can. Palestinian Muslims are blowing themselves up in Jewish school buses, so I guess they'd use a nuke without any hesitation, if they had one.

First of all, your comments suggest that you equate all Palestinians with suicide bombers. Do you have any idea how much fallout and destruction there would be in Palestine/Israel if someone set off a nuclear bomb in the area?

Palestinians don't seek to destroy the land that was taken from them.

I You really think they care? They'd use it anyway and then say that those Muslims who died as a result were martyrs. That's what they always do.

Again, you're totally generalizing. Suicide is a straight ticket to hell in Islam, no matter what way it's carried out. The problem is that people are desperate or are convinced otherwise. They feel that this is the only way they can fight back against a much more powerful opponent.

The vast majority of Muslims don't see Palestinian suicide bombers as Martyrs, especially when they kill civilians. However, they feel tremendous sympathy towards the Palestinian people and hurt along with them because of their plight.


But they claim to do everything they do in the name of Islam, so this is pretty irrelevant.

Claiming to do something in the name of Islam does not sanctify an action as Islamic. Something could be completely contrary to a religion, and if a person claims to be acting as a result of that religion, only the uninformed will be misled. The problem is, so many people are uninformed about Islam, and they don't know what is or isn't consistent with Islam.

If millions died I will absolutely gaurentee lots and lots of muslims will die in western countries, after all basically everyone will have lost a family member or relative.

That is a disturbing thought. Do you honestly think that people would start taking out clubs and killing innocent Western Muslims if a handful of completely deranged Muslims set off a Nuclear Weapon?

Looks like pakistan is heading towards an islamic revolution to me.... and of course we will have to go in and pacify the situation. Well at least we are right there in afghanistan already anyways.

Well, this comment certainly doesn't surprise me, based on the one before it.
 
That is a disturbing thought. Do you honestly think that people would start taking out clubs and killing innocent Western Muslims if a handful of completely deranged Muslims set off a Nuclear Weapon?

Yes. If not that, then the U.S would carpet bomb the middle east.
 
First of all, your comments suggest that you equate all Palestinians with suicide bombers. Do you have any idea how much fallout and destruction there would be in Palestine/Israel if someone set off a nuclear bomb in the area?

Actually, I do. If they used a low-yield fission bomb, set off on the ground, it would produce medium fallout, which would become harmless in few weeks, except of course the ground zero, where it would take somewhat longer time.

The land wouldn't be destroyed, just "purged" from Jews, at least from the Palestinian point of view.

Palestinians don't seek to destroy the land that was taken from them.

No, they just want to kill every single Jew who lives there, and that's why they'd use a nuke, if they got one.

Again, you're totally generalizing. Suicide is a straight ticket to hell in Islam, no matter what way it's carried out. The problem is that people are desperate or are convinced otherwise. They feel that this is the only way they can fight back against a much more powerful opponent.

A large number of Muslims obviously believe, that martyrdom (=death on a suicide run) is a straight ticked to heaven and 72 (?) virgins. And please, don't try to justify that by saying they're desperate.

Were those idiots who killed 50 British (muslims included) deserate? No. They had a decent life. Still, they chose to attack the society that has accepted them, only because it was not Islamic enough.

The vast majority of Muslims don't see Palestinian suicide bombers as Martyrs, especially when they kill civilians. However, they feel tremendous sympathy towards the Palestinian people and hurt along with them because of their plight.

So that's why they rejoice every time a bomb goes off in Israel? That's why we saw people dancing in the streets after 9/11?

It's pure hypocrisy. Even if the majority of Muslims refused suicide bombings, they certainly don't do much to stop it. Why? Because it hurts the hated Jews and evil Westerners, and those infidel dogs deserve to die anyway.

Claiming to do something in the name of Islam does not sanctify an action as Islamic. Something could be completely contrary to a religion, and if a person claims to be acting as a result of that religion, only the uninformed will be misled. The problem is, so many people are uninformed about Islam, and they don't know what is or isn't consistent with Islam.

I am not uniformed. I am informed enough to know, that Koran and other Islamic texts CAN be used as a justification for any sort of violence. Some Muslims don't see it that way, but some do and those are our enemies. If Muslims want to be trusted, they must eliminate those fanatics themselves, not jsut complainm about them, but do nothing to stop them.

That is a disturbing thought. Do you honestly think that people would start taking out clubs and killing innocent Western Muslims if a handful of completely deranged Muslims set off a Nuclear Weapon?

This question is not for me, but I personaly thing this could happen, yes. Especially if it turned out that the Western Muslims were behind it. People would probably stop being nice and their patience would be exhausted. Angry mobs can do terrible things.
 
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