Well, I can win on Deity in the normal game if the setting is right, and I got absolutely crushed as the yellow side on Prince. The Rus destroyed my second city, and the Swedes and Teutonic Knights nearly destroyed my first. I was grateful when the blue nobility took out two crossbowman bombarding my capital. I barely made it to turn 60, and lost a score victory. The numbers are overwhelming... Edit: Second try, much improved performance due to using encampments and crossbows for heavy ranged fire. Up to four cities, soon to settle a fifth. Losing, tied for last place by score. Destroying three or more barbarians per turn. Turn 37, defeat screen. Blue nobility neglected to protect Vienna, despite being under zero duress. Dammit. Edit2: Third try, spread out faster, stopped at 5 cities, developed them faster. Threw four winged hussars, a knight, a pikeman, and a great general down to stop the attack on Vienna, because the blue nobles weren't doing anything. Successfully won the game, though my score was still pretty pitiful (only Nero). Edit3: On Emperor as blue nobility, ridiculously easy. I settled between the Ottomans and Vienna, as well as all the lands between the starting area and Gdansk and two cities to the East. Used encampments filled with crossbowman for walls, enemies got nowhere. Biggest fright was when the Swedes spawned fifteen units (mostly musketman, a couple bombards) in and around Warsaw out of nowhere, but two of my then field cannons made short work of them. I can't imagine how the white nobility can be any easier than this was, but I'll try them on deity. Lastly, this go round yellow never got a third city and quickly lost their second, we're besieged the remainder of the game, meanwhile white lost their fourth city and were constantly pillaged and under siege. Edit4: On Deity as the white nobility, I found it hard to imagine that blue is any harder than white as others have suggested as possible. Whereas the Ottomans are easily addressed with careful city and encampment placement, the Moldives and Golden Horde are relentless. I managed only three cities (one more than normal) before I was locked into unit building for a while. I managed to pick up two captured settlers from barbarians later, to finish out my core. I spent the rest of the game with large waves of units crashing into my units only to dissolve rapidly in my return. The AI did better, as the yellow nobles managed to eventually settle three cities, and the blue nobles managed four. I only had to kill a few units (plus the settlers) from the North, as the yellows and blues held off the Rus, Teutonic Knights, and Swedes fairly well. Also, the blue nobles were mostly handling the Ottomans, using waves of winged hussars (I later assisted by settling my fifth city near (encampment on) the Northern mountain gap, and later my seventh near (encampment on) the Eastern mountain gap, behind which I killed an Ottoman unit or two per turn. To safely ensure I overcame blue's score I had to tuck in three extra cities, two in barely useful spots, for the total of eight. I won by less than ten points of score.