When I checked right before they attacked, the only ones not attacking the Mayans were the Americans. They attacked us with 3 other nations pounding on them!
I didn't check things at the end of my turns so it may have changed a bit. Definitely, the Aztecs and Mayans had been fighting recently & exchanging cities. If they are no longer fighting, then at least it should be cheaper to ally them in. I wasn't sure I wanted to commit to 20 turns of war though.
I forgot to mention that I think we also got Chivalry (another Zulu freebie), though we no longer have horses to take advantage of it as I traded them away (I wasn't expecting a war).
I am thinking we should also consider using our troops to clear the island of Greeks and Aztecs. We are getting serious flip risks as the amount of culture the Greeks have is very large compared to ours - possibly 10x.
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Madbax, your arguments for PP do make sense. The problem I had was I was needing to kick in 24 gpt to make the deal which didn't seem worth it. You are right though that if PP hadn't cost us then having the option for going for democracy would be not a bad thing. It is possible that the Zulu were researching banking and so the value was going down and that is why it cost so much.
Oh I meant to check - it was mentioned that there was a size 15 city. My guess was that the city had shakespeares theatre, but I forgot to check.
Only 4 more techs for the industrial age!
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I just realized I did something that could have been really stupid during my turns. When trading for the tech right before the Mayans declared, I took an MPP to be able to afford the tech. My thought was that if they attack the MPP is broken and if they don't we have a strong ally and can clear out our continent.
But this could have backfired horribly if the Mayans had gone last. Then the other three AI's at war would have all attacked the Mayans and we would be at war with them and then when the Mayans attacked us, we could have been at war with all but the Americans. We probably would have survived, due to our living on our own island, but it could have cost us. Because I got lucky, I didn't even notice it. It was a weed move non-the-less.
A question occurred to me. Is there a way to know the order of the AI when they take their turns? If so, I could have actually checked rather than relying on pure chance, which would make all the difference between a weed vs a clever ploy.
I didn't check things at the end of my turns so it may have changed a bit. Definitely, the Aztecs and Mayans had been fighting recently & exchanging cities. If they are no longer fighting, then at least it should be cheaper to ally them in. I wasn't sure I wanted to commit to 20 turns of war though.
I forgot to mention that I think we also got Chivalry (another Zulu freebie), though we no longer have horses to take advantage of it as I traded them away (I wasn't expecting a war).
I am thinking we should also consider using our troops to clear the island of Greeks and Aztecs. We are getting serious flip risks as the amount of culture the Greeks have is very large compared to ours - possibly 10x.
[edit:
Madbax, your arguments for PP do make sense. The problem I had was I was needing to kick in 24 gpt to make the deal which didn't seem worth it. You are right though that if PP hadn't cost us then having the option for going for democracy would be not a bad thing. It is possible that the Zulu were researching banking and so the value was going down and that is why it cost so much.
Oh I meant to check - it was mentioned that there was a size 15 city. My guess was that the city had shakespeares theatre, but I forgot to check.
Only 4 more techs for the industrial age!
[Another Edit]
I just realized I did something that could have been really stupid during my turns. When trading for the tech right before the Mayans declared, I took an MPP to be able to afford the tech. My thought was that if they attack the MPP is broken and if they don't we have a strong ally and can clear out our continent.
But this could have backfired horribly if the Mayans had gone last. Then the other three AI's at war would have all attacked the Mayans and we would be at war with them and then when the Mayans attacked us, we could have been at war with all but the Americans. We probably would have survived, due to our living on our own island, but it could have cost us. Because I got lucky, I didn't even notice it. It was a weed move non-the-less.
A question occurred to me. Is there a way to know the order of the AI when they take their turns? If so, I could have actually checked rather than relying on pure chance, which would make all the difference between a weed vs a clever ploy.
