Contrary to this thread, the game itself is still very much alive, we're now at turn 101.
In turn 99 we had our first diplomatic meeting, here's what this first heated debate was all about:
Kemal zegt:
hi anarres
anarres zegt:
hi
Kemal zegt:
I'm playing the turn at this moment
Kemal zegt:
I've found you, we now have contact
anarres zegt:
lol
anarres zegt:
wow
Kemal zegt:
looks like those vikings sure are in trouble now!
anarres zegt:
hehe
Kemal zegt:
I was hoping we could negiote to an agreement regarding the extension of our currently active peace treaty
Kemal zegt:
negotiate
anarres zegt:
figured they had to die before beserks
anarres zegt:
well make an offer but i need to see my diplo screen before i agree to anything
Kemal zegt:
just a moment
Kemal zegt:
what would you say if I'd declare war on you now? (With of course possible consequences I don't need to explain to you)
anarres zegt:
well, if you want to expend peace i need to know where we stand
anarres zegt:
if you want to declare war then there is nothing for me to say
anarres zegt:
if you want to threaten me with war you have to make a demand
anarres zegt:
it's up to you
Kemal zegt:
how about I won't declare war on you now, we extend our peace treaty for 5 turns at least (so no war for the next 5 turns period), and you give me 150 gold?
anarres zegt:
well what are you proposing to do?
anarres zegt:
i am sure if you just found me all you can have is 2 units off my shore
anarres zegt:
so ****off
anarres zegt:
i perceive no threat
anarres zegt:
how many boats can i see from my cities?
Kemal zegt:
Well, Russia might not pose a threat, but russia has powerful friends at the moment, I'm sure you understand.
Kemal zegt:
you can't see my boats
anarres zegt:
i have plenty of cash to get your AI's to all declare on you too you know
Kemal zegt:
If you make contact with them first, that is
anarres zegt:
true, although to pay india to attack me also would cost allot, they are powerful
anarres zegt:
and i can last 6 turns until i can turn the zulu and buy contact
Kemal zegt:
It's up to you to assess and take that risk
Kemal zegt:
we already have contact, so there's nothing to buy
anarres zegt:
cani have the turn first?
Kemal zegt:
then I would lose my chance to declare war on you now
Kemal zegt:
I could declare war now, of course, and then send you the turn for you to look at
anarres zegt:
well, i could agree to a 1 turn amnesty on war
anarres zegt:
if you don't do it now i won't on my turn
anarres zegt:
you know i am honest
anarres zegt:
you are more likely to get cash from me if i can see the turn
anarres zegt:
i will negotiate then
anarres zegt:
but not without knowing where i stand
Kemal zegt:
I can agree to a 1 turn amnesty of war, but only on the following condition: I send you the turn and an accepted offer of 1 gold, then you send me 51 gold in return and accept. That way I do not give up the advantage I have now for free
anarres zegt:
what?????????
anarres zegt:
that's not an amnesty LOL
anarres zegt:
why should I give you 50 gold - you will still have first chance to declare war and get MA's
anarres zegt:
!"!!!!
Kemal zegt:
It is a deal, you give 50 gold for an extension of the peace for 1 turn. gives you the chance to assess the situation and possibly take appropriate actions
anarres zegt:
like what?
anarres zegt:
nah
anarres zegt:
you wanted 150 for 5 turns, now you want 50 for 1
anarres zegt:
you are a comedian
Kemal zegt:
yep, the increase is because you get to see the turn in the latter offer
anarres zegt:
i'm not even sure if i have 50 gold lump sum
anarres zegt:
lol
anarres zegt:
the idea of me seeing the turn is for you to extort money from me
Kemal zegt:
but just a minute ago you had enough to get the ai to declare war on me, and they sure need more than 50 for that
anarres zegt:
if you thought you could get something from the war you wouldn't have raised the cost to extend 1 turn
anarres zegt:
GPT
anarres zegt:
ai wants GPT not cash
anarres zegt:
but i don't actually remember how much i have
anarres zegt:
but I do have plenty gpt
Kemal zegt:
doesn't matter that much of course, since you're not dealing with the AI at the moment
anarres zegt:
kemal, you are funny. make a serious offer or declare war
anarres zegt:
50 gold for 1 turn when i don't even know what you can do is just sillly
Kemal zegt:
I'll play the turn now, and you think about whether you think my offer is too funny to be worth taking the risk.
anarres zegt:
well since you originally said 150 for 5 turns 50 for 1 *is* silly
anarres zegt:
and with 5 turns I get muchmore chance to prepare
Kemal zegt:
then let it be 30 gold then, 150/5 = 30, my final offer
Kemal zegt:
talk to you in a few minutes then
anarres zegt:
jsut play it
Kemal zegt:
k, you made a decision yet?
anarres zegt:
who do you have contact with?
anarres zegt:
is it only me?
anarres zegt:
or me and vikings?
anarres zegt:
it is no-one else since last turn you knew none of us
anarres zegt:
so what exactly are you threatening?
Kemal zegt:
I have contact with all civs
anarres zegt:
but how?
anarres zegt:
buying form the vikings?
Kemal zegt:
buying indeed
anarres zegt:
i think you're bluffing
Kemal zegt:
I can tell you some specs of the map of your continent, if you want me to prove things...
Kemal zegt:
for example, too bad both India and Zululand have no iron connected
anarres zegt:
ind4eed
anarres zegt:
you don't knwo the landshape or map at all though do you
Kemal zegt:
sure I do
Kemal zegt:
would you like me to describe a specific city? You name it...
anarres zegt:
hmm, i will give 15 gold for 1 turns grace, but what if i don't have 15 gold??
Kemal zegt:
my offer was 30 gold
Kemal zegt:
You can pay me later if you wish, as long as we agree to make the deal now
anarres zegt:
i still think the threat is BS, so I ofer 15 gold, we may be able to comprimise somewhere between that and 30 tho
Kemal zegt:
You may think the threat is BS, but my offer of 30 gold is final. So it's up to you whether you take it or not
anarres zegt:
ok, 30 it is
anarres zegt:
you can post this crap to the open thread....
Kemal zegt:
k, you want to pay the gold now, or in 2 turns?
anarres zegt:
if I have it I wil pay it
Kemal zegt:
k, I'll send you 1 gold accepted and you can give me 31 gold for it, then accept
Kemal zegt:
I'll post this in an open thread, if I can find it
Kemal zegt:
k?
anarres zegt:
why the 1 gold extra?
anarres zegt:
what for?
Kemal zegt:
because I give you 1 gold accepted for you to make the deal this turn
Kemal zegt:
31-1=30
anarres zegt:
nah
anarres zegt:
you don't do it like that
anarres zegt:
i send 30 and accept your blank offer, when you et it you just click accept and get the money
Kemal zegt:
ok, that's fine too, I'll finish the turn now then
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