Kingdom of Sweden

In the long standing tradition of Danish-Swedish taunting we might as well get this over with ;)

Silly Swedes. Your mothers were all hampsters and your fathers smellt of elderberries. We Danes fart in your general direction :yeah: :lol:

Good, now we got that out of the way, just one comment. I can't check the mod as I'm still waiting on Civ4, but do remember that the cities os Skane, Halland and Blekinge are Danish. I don't want to see Malmo, Lund or Helsingborg in it ;) Though of course without them there might be a shortage of available cities... hmm... Stockholm, Goteborg, Uppsala and... hmm... are there any more? ;) Right, I'll be good now :)

I look forward to trying this mod when I can and will grind the Swedish cities to dust as retaliation for taking our provinces :p
 
if it wasn't for your qoute from Monty Python's The Quest for the Holy Grail, i would have given you a sour reply. perhaps you "just got a bit, uh, sort of carried away..."
 
Harleqin said:
In the long standing tradition of Danish-Swedish taunting we might as well get this over with ;)

Silly Swedes. Your mothers were all hampsters and your fathers smellt of elderberries. We Danes fart in your general direction :yeah: :lol:

Good, now we got that out of the way, just one comment. I can't check the mod as I'm still waiting on Civ4, but do remember that the cities os Skane, Halland and Blekinge are Danish. I don't want to see Malmo, Lund or Helsingborg in it ;) Though of course without them there might be a shortage of available cities... hmm... Stockholm, Goteborg, Uppsala and... hmm... are there any more? ;) Right, I'll be good now :)

I look forward to trying this mod when I can and will grind the Swedish cities to dust as retaliation for taking our provinces :p

In the current version those danish citys are in though i have a few version im testing out for next update and one of the possibel changes are the removing of them. Though the reason i put them in in the first place is since they actualy been in swedish possesion for some time and i dident know if any danish mod uses them. To make its short i havent really decided yet what way to go.

Futher more i have made 2 more learders Vasa and Per Albin the father of the swedish "Folkhemmet" however this would as well require two more player colors for sweden and there would be a chance of 4 swedish civs in a game :P. But with this said i could realease diffrent versions so you could chose what two leaders you want in the mod.

So id very much like to hear peoples opinions on these issues.

Futher more if some one is intrested in puting togheter a scandinavian civ mod feel free to include my work, just include me in the creeds and i be happy.
 
Hehe, it's tradition. You will need to come and taunt in threads about Denmark as well.

Well, about the cities I feel it most proper that a civs list should only contain cities only founded by that nation though of course there are exceptions, most notably in Civ3 where we had both Byzantium and Constantinople. Possibly Kiev as well.

The area has been Swedish for roughly 350 years so it doesn't seem right to include them. I know that if I was to make a Danish mod I would definately include them as Lund and Malmo were very important Danish cities.

How does it deal with cities in Finland? I assume many of those were founded by Swedes.

Anyway, it's your mod so you should make it however you wish :)
 
Harleqin said:
Hehe, it's tradition. You will need to come and taunt in threads about Denmark as well.

Well, about the cities I feel it most proper that a civs list should only contain cities only founded by that nation though of course there are exceptions, most notably in Civ3 where we had both Byzantium and Constantinople. Possibly Kiev as well.

The area has been Swedish for roughly 350 years so it doesn't seem right to include them. I know that if I was to make a Danish mod I would definately include them as Lund and Malmo were very important Danish cities.

How does it deal with cities in Finland? I assume many of those were founded by Swedes.

Anyway, it's your mod so you should make it however you wish :)

Well im making it though im not the only one playing it so im open for sugestions. Though i think i will go ahead with the remvoing of danish founded citys, unless people here have strong feelings against it.
 
As the renaming cities in your possession *in the game* is so easy, the inclusion of some places that were lost in wars in *real history* should not be a big problem.
I have no trouble founding Viipuri (Viborg) even as we lost it some 60 years ago to the former Soviet realm. :cry: And I would not mind at all renaming Malmö as Malmisaari as soon as as i have taken it. :D :king:

Peace and respect :goodjob:
Mannerheim
 
I think that Carl Bildt is better Per Albin Hansson, becuase Per Albin was a lousy socialist that made the economy of Sweden even weaker. Carl Bildt was the best prime minister Sweden ever had.
 
yes, he was a socialist. but i'm afraid he didn't make the economy weaker, rather the opposite. how about fredrik reinfeldt? show a little faith!
 
i like this cause im swedish like many off this lads. hey one thing, a danish guy want a danish civilasation so he could "crush sweden"!
 
Personally, I think the Danish "empire" is great! Only slightly less great
than the Swedish "empire". :)

Should a city in Civilization belong to the Civ that founded it? That would, for example, make Dublin a Norweigan town. I think it's up to the creator to decide. Maybe Malmö and Lund should be among the last cities in the Swedish citylist?

Here is some history facts for those who are interrested;
Skåne (Scania) came under Danish rule in the 970s, when Harald Bluetooth conquered the land. Lund is believed to be founded in 990, slightly north of the ancient village of Uppåkra, a trading center and place for a great temple.
Malmö is first mentioned in the mid- 1200s. It became a town 1437 during the period of the Scandinavian union ("Kalmarunionen"). Skåne came under Swedish rule in 1658.
 
Nachos said:
yes, he was a socialist. but i'm afraid he didn't make the economy weaker, rather the opposite. how about fredrik reinfeldt? show a little faith!
Fredrik Reinfeldt hasen't any power jet. The Swedish party the Socialdemokraterna has been in power for 66 years of 70. After WW2 Sweden, USA and Switzerland didn't have to build up their country, and could use money on making the country better wellfare and stronger economically. Look at the GDP per capita:

USA: $41,800 (2005 est.)
Sweden: $29,600 (2005 est.)
Switzerland: $35,000 (2005 est.)
Germany: $29,700 (2005 est.)

Even Germany, which was almost destroyed by the war, has a higher GDP per capita than Sweden!
 
I think it's a bad idea to involve modern politics in the game. Any person used as a leader should be "comfortably dead". Therefore I have a suggestion that surely fits the description;

Bröt-Anund :king: 600-640 ca. Exp/Org fav. civic: democracy
The sagas says that Anund was a good and juste king that used his wealth to break new ground so that the people could settle new lands. He built bridges and roads (Bröt means road, and is a nickname given by his people), and organized the military. The country prospered under his reign.
 
Flogiz said:
Fredrik Reinfeldt hasen't any power jet. The Swedish party the Socialdemokraterna has been in power for 66 years of 70. After WW2 Sweden, USA and Switzerland didn't have to build up their country, and could use money on making the country better wellfare and stronger economically. Look at the GDP per capita:

USA: $41,800 (2005 est.)
Sweden: $29,600 (2005 est.)
Switzerland: $35,000 (2005 est.)
Germany: $29,700 (2005 est.)

Even Germany, which was almost destroyed by the war, has a higher GDP per capita than Sweden!
Money is not all...

HDI rankings (Human Development Index):
6. Sweden
7. Switzerland
12. USA
20. Germany

The economists Quality-of-life index:
2. Switzerland
5. Sweden
13. United States
26. Germany
 
Let's drop the "My-country-is-the-best-in-the-world" talk...we can never agree..
I'm only saying, that its fun to play, when you've got norway, sweden and denmark in a game. Still looking for the danish civ, as i find every other civ is being made...
 
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