KotOR Mafia - game thread

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hey Winston

Wouldn't it be a shame if one of those kittens were to, let's say, get hungry and go hunting for space worms?

Worms don't have much in the way of defenses. With their fat, soft, slimy flesh. Cats would just rip them apart.

 

[JohannaK]

Urrr... Errr... So, shouldn't there be a lot more citizens than neutrals?

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

Urrr... Errr... So, shouldn't there be a lot more citizens than neutrals?

Yeah, but we've been hitting darkside targets and they keep flipping neutral.

Plus side, eventually they're going to stop being neutral and start being scum.

 

[JohannaK]

Ah yes. Silly me.

Let's hope we start hitting scum soon enough. This game is a bit boring with all those lurkers and detectives and scans.

Vote: Earthling

 

[Verarde]

Alright ATPG. You want a little activity from moi? Here's some analysis:

The Earthling vote...
It would appear we're going on NinjaCow's word here. and if Earthling is innocent we're going after NC. This is something I've noted a lot recently "If X turns up town, we lynch Y."
Sometimes that works, sometimes it doesn't.

Okay, that whole thing with the Buddhafish scan...
I'm not so sure about it. Why would Mergle reveal that, knowing that now he's likely to get popped off? On the off chance that he's in contact with a scanner and is just relaying their information, the scum could still get rid of him in order to kill the scanner's chances (for a while) of relaying his info to the town. Not enough to get me to vote Mergle, but it did raise an eyebrow or two. Now, on Buddhafish, it's the same thing like the Earthling-NinjaCow scenario up there. "If X turns up town, let's lynch Y."

So, the question here is:

Buddhafish or Earthling?

And then, if one turns up town, do we then go after the folks who revealed them (NinjaCow and Mergle)?

Not prepared to vote yet. I want to hear more thoughts on what I've outlined.

 

[Dreadnought]

Pizza, I suggest we lynch guilty reports or lurkers until the endgame, where we can more easily analyze patterns.

Vote for people who don't post. If they don't want to post, we can relieve them of the necessity of posting.

 

[Buddhafish]

Well, you'll just have one more flip neutral if you lynch me then.

 

[NinjaCow64]

Unvote, Vote BuddhaFish

I'm still playing, just going to quit trying to lead or inspire.

Town leaders help the town.

Not prepared to vote yet. I want to hear more thoughts on what I've outlined.

Look, I have to say this, if Earthling turns out town and the town want to auto-lynch me I will use all my money to bounty myself. I don't want the town wasting time on lynches that are useless. My case on Earthling is slightly WIFOM, but my gut feeling says there is something there. Of course, I'd take a scan result over that, so Vote: Buddhafish I do find it odd about the amount of scanners, however.

Pizza, I suggest we lynch guilty reports or lurkers until the endgame, where we can more easily analyze patterns.

Vote for people who don't post. If they don't want to post, we can relieve them of the necessity of posting.

Dread, you need to differenciate between lurkers and inactives. Inactives get WoGed. Lurkers post sporadically, they're active enough to not get WoGged, but they are not active enough to gain attention from the town from constant posting. The first group of fish are harmless. The second ones are the ones we should focus on. It also depends on the WoGging tendencies of the GM. Some GMs cut out inactive like they are cancer, Visor is known to do this. Others hardly ever WoG. At the risk of sounding like I did during ATOC (shudder), I don't think we should lynch people who are in all likelyhood going to get WoGed and instead we should kill the people who are acting suspicious.

Vote: Earthling

Sorry, I couldn't let you get away with that. Even though you are the pizzaguy. I assume that you were voting for Earthling because of my claim? I want to get an answer, otherwise, well, you know what will happen.

 

[spaceman98]

Here, So far this game has been a major case of failed follow the cop. The town has foolishly distracted itsself with hunting bounty hunters who may yet prove useful. We could have used Sam, since as he was claimed, he was dependant on pleasing us, but we did not. My thoughts? Tired of following scanners and lynching bounty hunters. Lets try to play the day game, make some errors and find the scum! This is why I am still voting Earthling instead of Buddhafish.

 

[Dreadnought]

Pizza has a very nice list of players by post count. Obviously, if someone is taking the time to vote every day without providing anything else, they're a lurker.

 

[dcmort93]

I happen to agree with what spaceman said about bounty hunters. THEY'RE NEUTRAL, NOT SCUM. That means we can still use them but if we make it our mission to kill every bounty hunter out there than that does two things:

1) It makes all of the remaining bounty hunters very hesitant to help us since we have a record of having them lynched as soon as they say they are a bounty hunter. This in turn will probably make them more likely to help the scum since they are not exactly trying to get them killed

and 2) It gives the scum more time to find and kill the pro-town power roles since we are too busy killing bounty hunters and not scum.

Those are my two cents on the matter. If you don't agree with me that's your prerogative but I ask that you at least consider my opinion on this and try to use the bounty hunters to our advantage.

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well, you'll just have one more flip neutral if you lynch me then.

Bounty Hunter?

If you are, I've got a mission for you. Should you choose to accept it.

This message, and the room you're currently standing in, will self-destruct, depending on your response.

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

Pizza has a very nice list of players by post count. Obviously, if someone is taking the time to vote every day without providing anything else, they're a lurker.

Some people play that way. Not sure I see the fun in it, but that's that.

That said, if that's all they're going to provide, I am more inclined to pressure them a bit.

 

[johnhughthom]

Some people play that way. Not sure I see the fun in it, but that's that.

Force ghost comment.

I guess winning is more important than participation to those people.

Oh, hi Qui Gon

 

[JohannaK]

But they surely know that participation is required of them. Those inactives to whom winning is more important than participating can only be scum, for they will win if they manage to inadvertedly survive to perform their nightkills while the town lynches its most lazy members, amongst whom scum hides to avoid revealing their true nature. Therefore, it is imperative for the town to act as a good town and be active, participating in the debate and the decisions taken by the town that they form as a whole.

 

[Gone 3 the Celt]

unvote;vote:buddhafish

A scan for someone who is even sligtly darkside is good enouhg for me to vote for.

 

[mechaerik]

Well, we've so far got two dark side scans, and both have proved to be Bounty Hunters. The vote on buddhafish is picking up some steam, but I'll vote: Earthling, for reasons I put forth yesterday.

 

[DaveShack]

Now prodding anyone who is active, to talk to me.

I've got several hours and I'm intent on not wasting them talking to myself.

I'm going to blatantly break the no dead talking rule to say,

It was 5 in the freakin morning on a weekend, eastern time. Maybe you should wait for the sun to be up!

I now return to my (hopefully temporary) state of death/inactivity.

 

[Gone 3 the Celt]

Now prodding anyone at all who is not that talkative or active:

Speak, say anything. This is not a request.

If you do not read this post and respond, I will amass a bounty from other players in the game, and I will ask folks which lurker needs to die and go with the lead option, whoever it may be.

This bounty will make it worth the bounty hunter's while. Even though I generally dislike them. Plus, it gives the remaining BH's a chance to prove they can do the town's bidding, at least until I find them all. Kill a scum and we'll talk about some amnesty, too.

So if you do not respond to this post, I will assume you are:

1) An inactive player with no excused absence, giving cover to the scum
2) Scum.

Respond- You have 48 hours.

Do you want me to roleclaim or just give my opinion on what is happening?

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

Do you want me to roleclaim or just give my opinion on what is happening?

What you've just posted is really all I needed. Feel free to add whatever.

I'm checking for a pulse, that's all I'm doing. If not contributing is your strategy, keep doing it. if you want to lay low, go right ahead. Just note that you're on record as doing it intentionally, instead of being an inactive.

I'm differentiating between actual lurkers, and actual inactives.

Inactives will not help us win, and are providing cover for the scums, and I'm not wasting my time and the town's time pressuring folks who won't respond to pressure. They're going on the randomly going to die list.

They can avoid that if they start trying to play.

Now, for the admitted lurkers, those who respond to me, town can talk to them and decide what to do with them. I'm not having this discussion turning into what's going on at TWC, where there were 3 voters and 12 non voters or so.

This is the warning shot across the bow- hiding will result in dead scums or dead townies. Pure and simple. Play the game or be removed from it.