[LP] Leader Pass Pack 4: Rulers of the Sahara Revealed (Coming Feb. 16th)
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It's probably the same that is used for the crown. Hopefully they just cranked up the lighting for this still shot and won't look so jarring with motion.
queenpea
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Yeah, I am referring to the gold of the crown, the jewelry, and the staff.
The whole ensemble is giving strong Eddie Murphy in "Coming to America" energy.
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It would make more sense if he was shown surrounded by servant types with chamois cloths burnishing and polishing the goldwork constantly. Of course, they may be kept 'off stage' to make the artwork simpler . . .
Hitler tried making nice with Pahlavi because the Aryan thing, but Pahlavi was noncommittal (unlike, say, Gandhi, who was much more...enthusiastic). Reza Shah was a committed nationalist, just like Ataturk, and a secularist (but not to the extent of Ataturk, who was probably an agnostic, just don't tell Erdogan
), but he wasn't a fascist. Neither Reza Shah nor Ataturk was a nice person, but as far as big personalities go...they're big enough I won't complain too loudly about their modernity. (I'd also get just a little excited if they had Reza Shah speaking his native language, Mazanderani.)There are a ton of Cleopatras. Cleopatra VII Philopater is the most famous one, i.e., the one in Civ6. Her daughter, Cleopatra Selene II, was queen of Numidia.
Maybe all these wonders in the background are just hints toward a wonder pass?
queenpea
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Maybe all these wonders in the background are just hints toward a wonder pass?
Don't tease me like that...
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All builds look exciting to try out but the cleopatra one the least anyways. Ramses and a Malian leader are both kind of exciting to look at and try. I wonder what their special attributes will be.
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I'm really looking forward to the two Egyptian leaders because as it stands, Plain Cleopatra is the weakest part of their kit.
Their civ ability is decent: extra production is nice to have but nothing special, but I really love the flood protection. It's like every city has a dam. It's really fun cranking disasters up to 4 and watch as all these other civs get their cities flooded and wiped out, but every time you get one you just get better yields. Chariot Archers might be expensive, but they're the strongest units of the ancient Era. The Sphinx has been buffed to be a really great UI now. The faith and culture are handy, but where it really shines is that +2 appeal. Pairs well with Earth Goddess and national parks. But Cleo just gets that flat 4 gold for international trade routes. It's weak, doesn't scale, and boring. And other civs get food off of you.
Pretty sure both leaders will be an improvement over that.
Their civ ability is decent: extra production is nice to have but nothing special, but I really love the flood protection. It's like every city has a dam. It's really fun cranking disasters up to 4 and watch as all these other civs get their cities flooded and wiped out, but every time you get one you just get better yields. Chariot Archers might be expensive, but they're the strongest units of the ancient Era. The Sphinx has been buffed to be a really great UI now. The faith and culture are handy, but where it really shines is that +2 appeal. Pairs well with Earth Goddess and national parks. But Cleo just gets that flat 4 gold for international trade routes. It's weak, doesn't scale, and boring. And other civs get food off of you.
Pretty sure both leaders will be an improvement over that.
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But that's the issue with split abilities between leader and civ. A stronger leader ability would unbalance the civ if it's too strong (not that they won't do it anyway).
I'm in the minority but I hope they do away with mutliple leaders per civ, or just make it a kind of skin to have different leaderheads. It makes the abilities too complicated and tough to balance.
But still, that said, egypt might be my favorite civ (like you said there's just something so satisfying about the flood prevention ability), and I totally wouldn't mind a leader to bring out the wonder building side of them.
You're not alone. I would also prefer to return to "one civ, one leader," though I've consigned myself to the fact that that's not going to happen. If we are to have multiple leaders, though, I hope Civ7 has a more...rational distribution of additional leaders. We jumped from "maybe we'll toss one civ an extra leader here and there" to "China has five leaders."
What I decidedly hope does not return, however, is the Eleanor/Kublai gimmick.
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I'm ok with the Elanor/Kublai gimmick, only if it is historically true. So how many true instances are there? Maybe 1 or 2 more. If that.
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Giuseppe Garibaldi of Italy/Uruguay
Joao VI of Portugal/Brazil
John Lennon of England/America
Diocletian of Byzantines/Rome
Constantine of Byzantines/Rome
Frederick II of Germany/Sicily
Canute of England/Denmark
William I of England/France
Charlemagne of France/Germany
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For me, the issue with the gimmick isn't its historicity; it's that it muddies the leader's role as the face of their civilization when they're the face of multiple civilizations. (It doesn't help that Eleanor was a gimmicky choice in the first place.)
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Charlemagne of France/Germany
William of Normandy/England
Cnut of Denmark/England
- And for real controversy:
Victoria of Britain/India
- And, as far as I know, the only Civ Three-Fer:
Alexander of Macedon/Greece/Persia
I mean, conceivably, Victoria could lead about half the civilizations in the game.
Also Charles V could lead Germany, Spain, and the Netherlands, and Philip II could lead Spain, Portugal, and the Netherlands. However, while Kublai definitely throws a wrinkle into the system, I think it's fair to exclude "ruler by conquest"--which rules out Charles or Philip with the Netherlands and "Victoria leads the entire world." (You also forgot Alexander leading Egypt. He literally introduces himself as "pharaoh" in the game. Might as well throw in Babylon while we're at it, even if he conquered them by proxy.)
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Frederick II of Germany can lead Sicily and Germany
Leader of Germany, Poland, Denmark, Norway, Austria, Bohemia, Moravia/Slovakia, Belgium, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, and France...
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I get it--the only reason it doesn't bother me that much is because there are, what, 50 nations and how many leaders? At some point they were going to go off the rails a bit.
(as an aside, I think it will be a rude awakening for people waiting for civ7; and when it comes out and there are 8, maybe 12 civs again.)
I mean out of all the civs China does make sense to have 5. Going forward I would be fine with 3 being the max for all potential civs.You're not alone. I would also prefer to return to "one civ, one leader," though I've consigned myself to the fact that that's not going to happen. If we are to have multiple leaders, though, I hope Civ7 has a more...rational distribution of additional leaders. We jumped from "maybe we'll toss one civ an extra leader here and there" to "China has five leaders."
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It's definitely going to be a bit of a shift transitioning to a buggy game with a few civs and partially fleshed out features from a buggy game with a lot more partially fleshed out features and civs.
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