Leaderhead Database and Request thread

[TheLastOne36]

Ok, so OP is updated with Ekmek's two images, PLUS the Qin Shi Huang reskin PLUS the Fireaxis made Taizong PLUS fireaxisSid Mier leaderhead.

Also a note that the database is outdated edited in.

Makes me feel special to know you used those images so much Ekmek! Didn't know it made things so easy! (Even though scrolling them was probably a pain. )

 

[IgorS]

You won't believe how easy it made things when deciding which LH parts to use, so I agree with Ekmek.
I am making a new database, but it will be only a database. My thought is that I will update it in a new thread, and your thread will be used for requests. In the database thread people will be able to discuss existing LHs and announce their new works. What do you think about this idea?

 

[TheLastOne36]

Good idea. We can get a mod to change the thread title, and sticky yours, I'll update this thread's OP redirecting to the database.

But to be honest, I kinda want to start the database fresh and clean, as I want to make a "Request Form" for people to use, to make proper requests, rather then just shouting names of leaders.

The request format would involve information of the leader, which leaders to use as a base, which parts from other leaderheads to use, background pictures, and other stuff, to make it easier for you guys.

If we continue this thread, nobody will notice the format, and in turn just seeing how other people are requesting and continue just shouting out names.

 

[IgorS]

I'll pm you once I'm done with organizing the database thread.

 

[The Capo]

I don't think another thread is necessary. Even if you do create a thread for requests people are still going to "shout out names of leaders" anyway.

 

[Androrc the Orc]

Maybe if you name the thread: Leaderhead Request Thread (read page 1 before posting) or Leaderhead Request Thread (please read FAQ on page 1) or something like that people would understand?

I find your excess of faith disturbing.

Seriously though, people are in a rush all the time and many times don't read things fully, specially when in a forum they are new to.

 

[The Capo]

I think we should just leave it as-is.

 

[IgorS]

Yeah, but the database should definitely be improved, and I'm working towards it.

 

[The Capo]

All you have to do is see the date of the last edit in the OP, then go to the DB and from that date backwards add the LHs.

 

[IgorS]

All you have to do is see the date of the last edit in the OP, then go to the DB and from that date backwards add the LHs.

I already assembled all of the good (or at least passable) LHs in the Databse. And would you believe there are LHs who were made before the last edit date and are not there. I actually went through all the LHs section and found all those LHs. I hope to turn it into a thread soon.

 

[The Capo]

I'm pretty sure you could ask the mods to make you the "thread starter" for this thread and allow you to edit it, that should save you a lot of time.

 

[IgorS]

I'm pretty sure you could ask the mods to make you the "thread starter" for this thread and allow you to edit it, that should save you a lot of time.

No, I would still need to reorganize the Lhs list in the DB.

 

[Xyth]

I posted this request in a thread (I forget which) ages ago and figured I should put it here in the actual request thread.

I'd really like to see a Māori Leader (being part Māori myself, and to give people a break from Hungarian leaders ) I'm aware that there is a Hone Hoke in CivGold but, to be blunt, it's horribly innaccurate of him, or even Maori. There are a number of leaders who could be ideal.

Hone Heke was notorious for his actions in the Flagstaff War but he is not one of our greatest chiefs. For a chief from colonial times I would suggest his uncle Hongi Hika. He was a very influential chief, a great warrior, agriculturalist, and even helped put the Māori language into writing. It is largely due to his efforts that peace was possible between Māori and the British. He even went to Britain to meet the king. Some pictures:

Te Wherowhero was the first Māori King, a movement started up in response to British colonialism, and a staunch defender of Māori land rights through diplomacy rather than war:

Another good choice would be Te Rauparaha. He is the chief who created the famous haka that you see at All Black rugby games these days. He was also known as the 'Napolean of the South'.

Finally for precolonial times a very good choice would be Kupe. He was the legendary discoverer of Aotearoa (New Zealand) who returned to Hawaiki and gathered the Māori and brought them to these shores. All Māori trace their ancestry back to which waka (canoe) they arrived on. He would be a great fit for Polynesian civs as opposed to Māori specifically.

In the end even a generic Māori leader would be fantastic and people can choose who they wish for him to represent. Bakuel made some excellent Māori units as part of his Polynesian unit packs, perhaps they could be used as resources for a leaderhead too?

Also, I hope it is not too much to ask but drawing the moko (facial tattoos) needs to be done with great care. Every attempt at a Maori LH I've ever seen has pieces of tattoo all over the place - a moko, especially on a male, is a continuous piece with very defined conventions and motifs that have meaning and mana. Bakuel's moko look good but obviously on the larger scale of a LH would need more detail. Here are some front-on images that could be maybe be used as a guide:

 

[The Capo]

If you go get one of those tats on your face, I'll make it... please provide visual evidence.

I'm kidding, I'll consider it, I do have a lot on my plate though. So if someone else wants to take up the challenge I'm sure that would be fantastic!

 

[Graceheart the Leopard]

Can someone please make a Hayam Wuruk leaderhead?

Base: I can't find a picture, so perhaps someone like Qin Shi Huang or Suryavarman II should do.
Clothing: Perhaps a robe with Batik-style texiles would work
Animations: If based on either leaderhead, the original animations should work.
Background: This picture of a gate in Trowulan:

 

[kochman]

In a mod several of us are working for, there is need for a Francesco Sforza. He basically put Milan on the map during the late Medieval Period.

Here are some images... perhaps a modification of Churchill or Dutchking's Ben Franklin?

 

[Ekmek]

that funky hat could take some work. I'd say I could use stuyvesant for it. I'm interested but I cant commit right now. sorry.

 

[orlanth]

Especially with Civ5 coming out this year, I'm sure some of you LH makers are looking to go out with a bang by creating a few really memorable and cool LHs that won't require extended amounts of time and effort to do. So I've got a couple of unique / interesting LH requests that I think could hopefully be fairly quick and enjoyable ones for someone with Mad LH Skillz to create.

Mysterious Silhouette

I'm looking for a simple backlit Silhouette LH for my mod that could represent a member of the Illuminati, a "Deep Throat" type agent, or any other anonymous and mysterious individual, making it of very wide potential use.

As a fairly quick project with a unique look, I'm hoping you could take an existing LH, retone the skin to a fairly homogenous dark gray/black texture, then place several strong light sources behind it to create an anonymous/menacing and shadowy feel. This could use any less-recognizable LH without strange headgear or other props, that could pass as modern in silhouette form. Some good possible choices would be either FDR, or Bolivar, Martin, or Sam Adams from Colonization.

Cyberspace Reskin

My scifi mod (Colonization 2071) is now going to add an AI / Artificial Intelligence as a leader. I'm thinking another really interesting and cool LH would be the following: Take an existing LH and reskin it by pasting over a seamless binary-digits texture like the one I'm attaching; then channel your nif artistry to place some strategic light sources, transparency or gloss textures to create the effect of a cyberspace being. Good base LHs to try for this purpose would be bald and/or hatless ones without any props, such as Julius, Augustus or Alexander. I'm attaching a binary texture I found which wraps seamlessly when repeated on any side.

Well hopefully one of you skilled LH-makers will take on the challenge of these outside-the-box LHs. I'll be interested to see what you can come up with!

Ekmek: that funky hat could take some work

Yep that's quite a beanie.. re the funky hat request above, I guess you could try Justinian, or that guy from Final Frontier with the ridiculous military cap.

 

[kochman]

that funky hat could take some work. I'd say I could use stuyvesant for it. I'm interested but I cant commit right now. sorry.

I will pencil you in as a possible...
For that hat... hmm... Yeah, he could always go w/o hat too. Vaguely similar to the hat on the Romanian Mihai the Brave... but perhaps not when you get to the art changes that need to be done.

 

[Tancredii]

Alpha Centauri Leader Heads