Leaderhead Database and Request thread

[cfkane]

As much as I'd enjoy starting that project, I already talked to the SMAC people about it. They didn't want animated leaders for precisely the reasons you just listed: too cartoonish and melodramatic (although there are certain leaders that are fairly stoic and could work with this), but it's their mod.

So out of respect to the makers of Planetfall, I'm declining.

 

[Edgecrusher]

This isn't a request, as much as it is pointing something out that might fall into the category as was done with Alexander the Great. i.e. a more accurate leader being made.
Some of the Civ5 Leaders being released caused me to do some reasearch on the new ones.

Doesnt the Tokugawa from 4 look like Oda? More-so than to pictures of Tokugawu?

 

[The Capo]

I think in some cases Civ IV leaders were supposed to be other people. If you notice Sitting Bull's music is labelled Geronimo, and there is a concept image for Teddy Roosevelt, so they were probably last minute decisions/changes. I hear Oda Nobunaga is going to be in Civ V, so perhaps the same thing was done with Tokugawa, he was going to be Oda Nobunaga but they changed their minds.

 

[Edgecrusher]

I think in some cases Civ IV leaders were supposed to be other people. If you notice Sitting Bull's music is labelled Geronimo, and there is a concept image for Teddy Roosevelt, so they were probably last minute decisions/changes. I hear Oda Nobunaga is going to be in Civ V, so perhaps the same thing was done with Tokugawa, he was going to be Oda Nobunaga but they changed their minds.

It seems that way. We all know the Qin/Kuibla Khan swap pre-Warlords.

 

[Tancredii]

Hi guys,

I lack any sort of artistic ability and so am reserved about the idea of LH creating myself, but I have just started playing Civ4|Planetfall because i loved SMAC and this was the closest thing to a new version. The only problem is the game still uses the old leader pics as its leader heads.

I was wondering if any of you illustrious graphic designers would be willing to make fresh leader heads (based on the original pics) to go with the factions of planetfall?

We'd only want limited activity in the heads. ie no silly slapping or the like, but facial expressions during conversations would go a really long way!!! (afterall in SMAC the conversations had the bio scan so you could easily see if they were pissed at you without having to read what they were talking about, but this is all lacking from planetfall currently)

As much as I'd enjoy starting that project, I already talked to the SMAC people about it. They didn't want animated leaders for precisely the reasons you just listed: too cartoonish and melodramatic (although there are certain leaders that are fairly stoic and could work with this), but it's their mod.

So out of respect to the makers of Planetfall, I'm declining.

Thanks for your comment cfkane, i have now got an okay from Maniac (principle designer) for someone to build the faction leader heads, if anyone is willing to do it, and charitable enough to offer them for use as non-official mod options

I don't see why someone would need my endorsement. People can make all the leaderheads they want obviously. The creator just shouldn't expect them to be used, or expect me to say "thank you" or "I like them".

Can somebody help me out, please?

Please, please, please!

 

[cfkane]

Well, in that case, I might try my hand at a couple of them.

Come to think of it, animated leaders could make for a decent modmod for Planetfall.

 

[Vrenir]

As a sub-request of this, could I suggest Morgan as a first Alpha Centauri leaderhead?

 

[esalkin]

Has anyone requested Chief Joseph, of the Nez Perce? I picture him as the perfect Org/Prot/Fish/Hunt

http://www.legendsofamerica.com/NA-ChiefJoseph.html

Sitting Bull (from Col) with facial changes would be perfect.

 

[orlanth]

Cyberspace Reskin
My scifi mod (Colonization 2071) is now going to add an AI / Artificial Intelligence as a leader. I'm thinking another really interesting and cool LH would be the following: Take an existing LH and reskin it by pasting over a seamless binary-digits texture like the one I'm attaching; then channel your nif artistry to place some strategic light sources, transparency or gloss textures to create the effect of a cyberspace being. Good base LHs to try for this purpose would be bald and/or hatless ones without any props, such as Julius, Augustus or Alexander. I'm attaching a binary texture I found which wraps seamlessly when repeated on any side.

After no response here I tried my hand at the above LH myself, but wasn't totally happy with the results so far: I successfully wrapped a binary-digits skin around Tokugawa, but couldn't quite figure out the lighting effects from tutorials, so faded the skin to near-black to reduce the cheesiness. (If interested you can see it as Japanese Emperor in the mod in my sig, but it's definitely not good enough to immortalize here ) I'm convinced it would look pretty nifty if I could make the LH itself semitransparent so the background could show through; so I tried editing the alpha channel of tokugawa_diff using DXT1 Bitmap Manipulator, and also tried adjusting Alpha in the nif's MaterialProperties using NifSkope, but neither of these seemed to have any effect. Does anyone know if there's a way to achieve a transparent or semitransparent effect for an LH?

BTW props again to cfkane for yet another outtathisworld alien LH, definitely abducting it for my next version. If anyone is considering making any of those SMAC LH requests, I'd be interested in them too, especially some of the weirder ones like Zakharov.

 

[The_J]

You should add a picture of your LH.
Not only that i'm interested in it , maybe anybody else around can then give some better advice.
Or ask in Ekmeks tutorial thread, sure the better place than here .

 

[Thomas SG]

Hi guys,

I want to ask you for help. Now that the Dynamic Civ Nation mod is working fine I think it is time for a Dynamic Civ Leader mod!

What I want? And what does Dynamic Civ Nation do?

Dynamic Civ Nation makes the nation dynamic. Romans become Italian, Germanics become German, Anglosaxian become English and British... That's what Dynamic Civ Nation does. And it also changes the flag.

What should Dynamic Civ Leader do? As far as possible I want a leader for all eras and all civs (execpt Sumeria and Holy Roman). And those leaders should controll the civ in the fitting era of the nation. Is there a chance to create so much leaders in good quality?

Yours
Thomas SG

 

[IgorS]

Hi guys,

I want to ask you for help. Now that the Dynamic Civ Nation mod is working fine I think it is time for a Dynamic Civ Leader mod!

What I want? And what does Dynamic Civ Nation do?

Dynamic Civ Nation makes the nation dynamic. Romans become Italian, Germanics become German, Anglosaxian become English and British... That's what Dynamic Civ Nation does. And it also changes the flag.

What should Dynamic Civ Leader do? As far as possible I want a leader for all eras and all civs (execpt Sumeria and Holy Roman). And those leaders should controll the civ in the fitting era of the nation. Is there a chance to create so much leaders in good quality?

Yours
Thomas SG

The community has created lots of LHs for Civ IV already. I believe that we have enough for you to work on your idea. Please check this LHs database and see whether the LHs you want are there or not.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=354960

 

[Thomas SG]

The community has created lots of LHs for Civ IV already. I believe that we have enough for you to work on your idea. Please check this LHs database and see whether the LHs you want are there or not.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=354960

Good link. Fantastic. I'll have a look what I can do with them...

 

[Tancredii]

Well, in that case, I might try my hand at a couple of them.

Come to think of it, animated leaders could make for a decent modmod for Planetfall.

Woot! Thanks cfkane

As a sub-request of this, could I suggest Morgan as a first Alpha Centauri leaderhead?

If anyone is considering making any of those SMAC LH requests, I'd be interested in them too, especially some of the weirder ones like Zakharov.

Either Morgan or Zakharov sound like a good place to start, then maybe one of the ladies.

 

[cfkane]

Okay, the SMAC project is in motion. I've already made a draft of Lal.

 

[The_J]

Waiting for a WIP .

 

[The Capo]

Waiting for a WIP .

So am I, but that's mainly because I have no idea who Lal is.

 

[The_J]

It's the arabic guy, IIRC (...and i've never played SMAC).

 

[cfkane]

Lal's Indian, actually.

I've also started Godwinson. Both are at the point where they kind of look like Lal and Godwinson in Blender. The other five are planned, but no actual work has been done yet on them. Though if I do a little bit on each a day, I could release the original seven SMAC leaders at once.

Though I'm having trouble getting animated leaders to show up in Planetfall itself.

EDIT: quick question. What would you call the headpiece that Deirdre's wearing?

 

[Huayna Capac357]

Darn. Maybe I should get SMAC. I feel like I missed out!