Light In The East: Civs Of The Orient(And Beyond)

[COF]

Hey guys. Due to Yuan being so high on the poll, would anyone here be interested in designing a UU for them?

We already have UA, as well as a UU1. But we need another unit, siege would be preferred. Thanks in advance

 

[Hoop Thrower]

Having the Flamethrower would be interesting as a Siege Unit... good luck finding an appropiate model for that though.

 

[COF]

Well, I suppose if it comes down to it we might have to decide for a non-siege unit. But if that happens we can just give it a bonus vs. cities.

 

[Natan35]

Junk?
Or you mean other then that?
How 'bout khan?
(I might be confusing them with someone else)
(Waiting for scapegrace again maybe? )

 

[regalman]

We already have the fire junk as a UU

 

[DonStamos]

Hui-Hui Pao (Counterweight Trebuchet)?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Xiangyang#New_weapon_of_the_Yuan_forces

 

[Urdnot_Scott]

Mangonel?

 

[ldvhl]

I do remember designing a trebuchet UU for Yuan?

 

[regalman]

The thing is, the HuiHui Pao looks very similar to the base trebuchet unit.

 

[Urdnot_Scott]

Not necessarily, would it be possible to add in a couple of cavalry models instead of the little footmen at the bottom of the Trebuchet? Would capture a Mongol theme. If not, they were larger than traditional Trebuchets as far as I know, so a bigger, tougher looking trebuchet would work.

 

[regalman]

Yeah, that should be possible. ldvhl highlighted their role in the Yuan army, especially at the siege of Xiangyang.

 

[Hoop Thrower]

I'd say that's your best option, anything else I found would be a pain to model and rig and animate...

 

[regalman]

Also my most preferred. Glad a solution might have been found

 

[Natan35]

So...

Huihui Pao
Replaces trebuchet. Slightly stronger(16 ), and has a bigger bonus vs. Cities(250%).

 

[COF]

We actually decided to give it area damage. Basically attack one tile and units in the surrounding tiles will receive (a lot less) damage.

 

[Scapegrace]

That sounds incredible! D'you keep the splash damage on upgrading? If so, I LOVE IT. Also, I woulda made it slightly weaker than a Treb, but with the splash damage and Volley to capture the siege fighting theme. Also, fun fact: the word mangonel comes from the word Mongol!

 

[DoctorMcGann]

Wow. That's like the most unique unit ever.

 

[Natan35]

Doesn't the Great galleass from JFD's Venice do the same?

 

[Urdnot_Scott]

Doesn't the Great galleass from JFD's Venice do the same?

Uh.. no

Great Galleass (Galleass): Units within two tiles of a Great Galleass gain +33% bonus vs cities. Begins with the Siege promotion itself. Costs an additional Gold maintenance and takes slightly longer to construct. May only be built by Venice.

I think the splash damage thing sounds perfect anyway - simple yet super effective. Would it effect cities? Like if you attacked a unit adjacent to a city, would the city take damage?

Also, fun fact: the word mangonel comes from the word Mongol!

Also, Scape, far as I know, Mangonel can't be derived from Mongol given the Arabic word, منجنيق (Manjanyyaq), vastly predates the Mongols, so it must have a way older origin - probably Greek or Latin. The Mongols actually learned how to use trebuchets and stuff from the Arabs - there's a reason Huhihui Pao translates into 'Muslim Engine' ahah.

EDIT: Wikipedia says it comes from the Greek magganon: 'Engine of War'. Makes sense to me

 

[regalman]

Who else is hyped for the Cyrus split?