Little questions & answers thread

[Yzman]

How do I build a highland power station with a sherpa? I place it on an empty mountain near one of my cities, but the icon is greyed out, and the tooltip says something like "requires an unimproved/ unoccupied mountain...".
EDIT: I think I have found it, the mountain needs to be outside my territory, not inside.

Correct. unowned mountain which makes it quite silly.

 

[Krikkit1]

Correct. Knowledge mountain which makes it quite silly.

It would have been ok if they had the ability to build it normally like every other UI and the Sherpa just provided a way to get it in an extra way.

 

[Sagax]

It would have been ok if they had the ability to build it normally like every other UI and the Sherpa just provided a way to get it in an extra way.

Apparently this is how it worked at some point (accidental early PS5 access?), but was changed to the current state for release. Maybe they found it too OP if spammable and decided to change last-minute? But if so, why not tweak the yields, limit to one per settlement, or prohibit being built adjacent to one another?

Nepal is kind of weird right now:

1. Its gameplay unlock requires having two settlements with 5 mountain tiles within each of their borders - that’s a lot of tiles locked out of quarters, and even finding such locations is not easy. But by doing so, these tiles become ineligible for power stations, so realistically you need to make sure said settlements have even more mountain tiles just outside of their borders.

2. Currently, Nepal is mentioned as an unlock for Ashoka World Renouncer, but not World Conqueror. I don't know if this is an actual gameplay discrepancy, or just a tooltip one. Has anyone tested this?

3. Building power stations consumes Sherpas, so you'll need to spam them like Prospectors. Which begs the question why they are Scout replacements to begin with, or the other way around - why couldn't Prospectors be merged with Scouts as well.

 

[Yzman]

Apparently this is how it worked at some point (accidental early PS5 access?), but was changed to the current state for release. Maybe they found it too OP if spammable and decided to change last-minute? But if so, why not tweak the yields, limit to one per settlement, or prohibit being built adjacent to one another?

Nepal is kind of weird right now:

1. Its gameplay unlock requires having two settlements with 5 mountain tiles within each of their borders - that’s a lot of tiles locked out of quarters, and even finding such locations is not easy. But by doing so, these tiles become ineligible for power stations, so realistically you need to make sure said settlements have even more mountain tiles just outside of their borders.

2. Currently, Nepal is mentioned as an unlock for Ashoka World Renouncer, but not World Conqueror. I don't know if this is an actual gameplay discrepancy, or just a tooltip one. Has anyone tested this?

3. Building power stations consumes Sherpas, so you'll need to spam them like Prospectors. Which begs the question why they are Scout replacements to begin with, or the other way around - why couldn't Prospectors be merged with Scouts as well.

It is likely a tool tip error. I was freaking out because I played as Pachucuti as Maurya based on the unlock requirements listed on this site, but then when I looked at the game it said they were still locked and did not mention Maurya as unlocking it...then once I got to civ selection they were unlocked and Maurya was listed. So were both Ashoka's if I remember correctly. So it is just the tool tip in game not appearing correctly.

 

[Krikkit1]

Apparently this is how it worked at some point (accidental early PS5 access?), but was changed to the current state for release. Maybe they found it too OP if spammable and decided to change last-minute? But if so, why not tweak the yields, limit to one per settlement, or prohibit being built adjacent to one another?

Nepal is kind of weird right now:

1. Its gameplay unlock requires having two settlements with 5 mountain tiles within each of their borders - that’s a lot of tiles locked out of quarters, and even finding such locations is not easy. But by doing so, these tiles become ineligible for power stations, so realistically you need to make sure said settlements have even more mountain tiles just outside of their borders.

2. Currently, Nepal is mentioned as an unlock for Ashoka World Renouncer, but not World Conqueror. I don't know if this is an actual gameplay discrepancy, or just a tooltip one. Has anyone tested this?

3. Building power stations consumes Sherpas, so you'll need to spam them like Prospectors. Which begs the question why they are Scout replacements to begin with, or the other way around - why couldn't Prospectors be merged with Scouts as well.

Renouncer v Conqueror makes sense. Ashoka became the Renouncer on converting to Buddhism…which is his strongest connection to Nepal.

 

[uppi]

Maybe I have been misunderstanding momentos but I just started a game with Tubman for the first time and I keep getting migrants everytime I am not discovered doing espionage. This isn't listed in her abilities but I do see it listed as a level 2 unlock which I don't have. What am I missing?

This is the case for any leader. If you are only noticing this with Tubman, you have not been spying enough.

3. Building power stations consumes Sherpas, so you'll need to spam them like Prospectors. Which begs the question why they are Scout replacements to begin with, or the other way around - why couldn't Prospectors be merged with Scouts as well.

But the Prospectors increase in price with each unit bought, while the Sherpas don't. The Highland Power Station is the cheapest UI there is (I think?) - if you have the terrain for it.

 

[Krikkit1]

This is the case for any leader. If you are only noticing this with Tubman, you have not been spying enough.

That is a bug…it should only be with the Memento equipped.

 

[Yzman]

That is a bug…it should only be with the Memento equipped.

Yeah I was gonna say, there is a momento for it specifically, so doesn't seem like it should be happening.

 

[madeirabhoy]

Is there any way to find each of your commanders? having gone a long time of peace, with commanders filled with troops dotted all over the place, im suddenly at war and im scowering maps trying to find my commanders and also individual troops.

 

[sixty4half]

That is a bug…it should only be with the Memento equipped.

Yeah I was gonna say, there is a momento for it specifically, so doesn't seem like it should be happening.

What uppi is saying is; There are 3 outcomes to Espionage. Failure, Success and Great Success. If you have Great Success you also get a free Migrant, on top of what you normally would.

The momento gives you a Migrant even if you just get Success.

 

[CoconutTank]

What uppi is saying is; There are 3 outcomes to Espionage. Failure, Success and Great Success. If you have Great Success you also get a free Migrant, on top of what you normally would.

The momento gives you a Migrant even if you just get Success.

Are you sure that's the intended effect? The tooltip for Tubman's Lantern claims to only grant Migrants if an Espionage Action is successful and undetected:

Espionage Actions seem to always be 100% complete when they finish, but the variance is in whether or not they're detected, and Espionage Actions currently always grant a Migrant if they're undetected, even w/out the Lantern.

Also what is "Great Success"?

 

[sixty4half]

Yeah, Failure is when you get caught. So you only get a Migrant from the Momento if you succeed.

Great Success may not be the right wording but I think it is.

This guy calls them Secret and Top Secret results. https://screenrant.com/civilization-7-how-espionage-works-explainer/

He says "These actions cost Influence per turn and grant rewards from two levels: secret and top secret. Secret Missions reward the base description (e.g., Civic or Tech), while Top Secret Missions reward that plus an additional bonus, typically a Migrant unit in your capital."

 

[Krikkit1]

Yeah, Failure is when you get caught. So you only get a Migrant from the Momento if you succeed.

Great Success may not be the right wording but I think it is.

This guy calls them Secret and Top Secret results. https://screenrant.com/civilization-7-how-espionage-works-explainer/

He says "These actions cost Influence per turn and grant rewards from two levels: secret and top secret. Secret Missions reward the base description (e.g., Civic or Tech), while Top Secret Missions reward that plus an additional bonus, typically a Migrant unit in your capital."

Since it is a reviewer, he may be deducing the "top secret" as an "undetected" and finding the bug.

There is no "Failure" at least for the standard espionage options (100% chance success)...there is only Caught but Succeeded and Succeeded Undetected

 

[sixty4half]

Since it is a reviewer, he may be deducing the "top secret" as an "undetected" and finding the bug.

There is no "Failure" at least for the standard espionage options (100% chance success)...there is only Caught but Succeeded and Succeeded Undetected

That's just a difference in verbiage, sorry for any misunderstanding but I call Caught but Succeed a Failure since Caught/Not Caught is the only thing you can fail.

Is there anywhere that Firaxis has confirmed this is a bug? This guy

calls it a Great Success at about 5:03 in that video when he gets a migrant from espionage. That's where I got "Great Success" from.

 

[uppi]

That is a bug…it should only be with the Memento equipped.

Probably, but who knows? Could be just an undocumented feature like the the influence penalty during spying, which is also mentioned nowhere.

But intended or not, it is consistent enough that it is part of the game (at least until it is patched out).

 

[sixty4half]

I always thought of it this way; My spy was so convincing that he not only got the targeted secrets but also convinced their source to defect to my country.

 

[CoconutTank]

Firaxis hasn't outright said this is a bug or not, but given that there's an existing memento that describes the condition and result but doesn't need to be equipped to be realized, I'll err on it being a bug (until Firaxis says otherwise).

 

[Krikkit1]

Firaxis hasn't outright said this is a bug or not, but given that there's an existing memento that describes the condition and result but doesn't need to be equipped to be realized, I'll err on it being a bug (until Firaxis says otherwise).

Especially if equipping the memento doesn’t give you 2 Migrants on undetected.

 

[CoconutTank]

Especially if equipping the memento doesn’t give you 2 Migrants on undetected.

Which it doesn't! I've tried out of curiosity.

 

[Yzman]

Probably, but who knows? Could be just an undocumented feature like the the influence penalty during spying, which is also mentioned nowhere.

But intended or not, it is consistent enough that it is part of the game (at least until it is patched out).

Fairly certain when spying is done it mentions the influence penalty actually. The screen that says what you stole.