love

[Mao Tse Tung]

hmmmmmmmm.......i just wanted all ur thoughts on wat u define as true love and my 2nd question,do u think a child(or teen as many like to b called) can experience true love and know wat it feels like to feel love for another other than family.............or do u think we r loveless beings at this stage?

 

[G-Man]

I'll probably get for saying this but I believe that there's no such thing as love.

 

[stormerne]

You're assuming, Mao, that love is something you feel or experience. Not everyone believes that, as we discussed at length a couple of months ago in Off-Topic.

For example, I don't believe that. Instead I believe that love is something that you do, rather than something that you feel.

There are plenty of good emotions that I might feel when I love someone, but I don't feel them all the time. If I don't feel the euphoria of being "in love", don't I love that person anymore? Of course I do!

A young person usually has too many very strongly competing emotions (and other feelings) to be able to discern whether something is love or not. And few have the clarity or the maturity to know whether something is a "doing" love.

But that doesn't matter!! The main thing is they needn't try to classify something as love. Most will try, of course, though it's a pointless exercise! Why not just enjoy it while it lasts without protesting to anyone what they think it is?

 

[floppa21]

If you're a teen and think you're in love, I say take it slow and easy because you know as well as anyone hormones are out of whack in ya, and that can cause a lot of things physical, emotional, and mental. A lot of help I am, I know....

 

[joespaniel]

I hate to argue with G-Man (I dont want Mossad after me!), but there is such a thing as Love.

His name is Joe, and he is a spaniel. Every time I come home he is waiting and lets me know this world isn't all sh*t.

Only part of the backyard.

 

[G-Man]

You've just got yourself a Mossad agent to follow you wherever you go!!
But seriously, I believe that love is just an invention of the western world. It's just another word for being attracted to someone.

 

[joespaniel]

If everyone had a spaniel, the world would be much better.

G-Man - I sent you a PM. Did you get it, or are you just ignoring me?

Joespaniel

 

[G-Man]

I got it, I just have no idea how to answer it.
I got a dog. And I think the world would be much better if someone invented dogs that don't require feeding. And that I don't have to take to a walk every day. And I think the world would be better if I owned it. But unfortunatly it can't happen (appearantly there's no one to buy the earth from).

 

[joespaniel]

Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

BTW- What is the time difference between the US and Isreal? ie its 7:39pm here, what time is it there?

 

[Mao Tse Tung]

well stormerne thanx for explaining ur thoughts on wat i feel,i dont know im not good with words,not at all online.but love....i dont know how to describe it nor will i try.thanx to all for ur help more or less.

on another note i had a dog .............till it died ,i really didnt notice its death i just thought the lazy thing was sleeping.i guess not feeding it kinda ruined my experience with animals.

im off to complain about life and pop pimples as us teens do.....

 

[G-Man]

joespanial, I know that Israel is +2GMT, and I think the US is -7GMT or -6GMT so I guess the time difference is 8-9 hours. Why do you ask?

 

[Simon Darkshade]

I have written my thoughts on the subject previously, and got a lot of interesting responses. The first question is something that requires a great deal of consideration, so maybe I will add that later, but the second is one which I have a clear opinion on.
F**K YES!!! and let no one ever downplay the truth and intensity of feelings due to age. It is common, for good or for ill, but hard to recognise and come to terms with.

 

[amadeus]

There's the love of love, the hate of love, and the love of hate.

I love love and love hate

 

[allan]

There are probably as many definitions of love as there are people!

I agree with Storm, love is more of a verb than an emotion--but that verb can have many meanings too. And I'd rather have a woman DO those things that come from her love, than tell me that she loves me.... When she does those things, then I know. The word "love" is so abused in sexual relationships, I'd rather not hear it, just know it (or not, as the case may be). Why some women need to hear the word though, is beyond me....

 

[JellyDonut]

Love is an illusion of the brain to ensure the survival of the species, if you know what I mean. What did you expect, asking such spiritual guidance from an atheist?

 

[scorch]

hey, youse wanna hear something funny?

there are now 2 types of love! my exgf (christ ive got a lot of those now) explained it to me.

THeres true 'love' as in for your family, freinds etc... you know what im talking about, and also like love-love, for your wife.
and theres 'luv', yep. you have to spell it 'luv'. and thats what young teenage bastards like me feel.
Christ it pisses me off, coz my ex still aint over me, and i always get these txt that say 'i feel really sad, coz i still luv you, but i can't go out with you'..... you get sick of it after about 10 of them 'love you-hate you' txts.

 

[floppa21]

Allan made a good point... You meet a woman, go out a few times, talk a bit, she drops the "I love you" on your head. Now me, I'm thinkin "oh yah I'm sure you do no doubt about it, how could you not after 2 weeks?" but what can ya do? I just say it back and things go well. Of course, we probably aren't even talking 2 months later, but hey, she loves me!

 

[Matrix]

I let the love for family and friends be for what it is in the discussion here.

But there is this chemical substance that we make in our body... It's called phenethylamine. Before the age of...10 (as I recall ) this does not exist in your body (or your body doesn't react to it; either way).

But when it does, you fall in love. The question to whom is worth discussing. I used to fall in love with girls who were blond, pretty and cheerful. Now I have a girlfriend (still first one ever) who is not blond, though pretty, and also cheerful, but she's different than all the other girls. (So apparently, there's a difference between puppy love and 'true love'.)

I do believe love is an emotion. I haven't reached the point that this kind of love is obviously abundant in my life, like when you're married. She's my girlfriend for a half year now, but she's in Norway now and we miss each other so much, that we'll love each other as much as we always have until she's back for some time. (That does make it kind of romantic, doesn't it?)

By the way, my girlfriend thought she was happy with her live and not in need of a boyfriend, but then she met me. :love2: Now I'm most important in her life and she is in mine.

But to come back to phenethylamine: it's like a lot of other organic molecules an emotion trigger. So the fact that love is an emotion is scientificly determined.

 

[scorch]

Christ, i knew that this thread wouldn't last very long with out some guy telling us that he actually loved his missus and wasn't in it just to screw her.

nah jokes matrix... good on ya

 

[Mao Tse Tung]

i dont wanna take other ppls words to make up my sentences,but matrix described wat i feel for the most part.with many gurls i felt "puppy love",u know the popular blondes and ****.i met this girl who is different from all the other girls and we ended up going out.this girl has been my g/f for about 5 months now and i too aswell as she felt no need for a g/f or b/f b4 we met.we've been in "love" as we think we r and so i thought u lads at cffs can help me define love to see if wat i feel is really love.so when i read matrix's post,he explained everything i felt or thought on the subject.so i must say THANK U to matrix for posting that and helping me a bit in expressinging my thoughts.

sorry if u couldnt read my on going bull**** setences i am in a hurry.

o yea i dont know if i put this in there but shes my first real g/f,not like the blondes who i wished i can go out with but never did.