Loveless movies?

Sparta said:
If we were allowing Kubrik (I'd wanted to but followed the two-decade rule) Dr. Strangelove and Full Metal Jacket both most definitely belong (unless Jack Ripper's womanizing counts as 'romance'...). Excellent movies.
But Strangelove is far older than 20 years and FMJ contains both sex and the thought of romance/intimacy.

Besides that it's almost 20 years old...
 
-A movie about cloning gone bad
-A comedic portrayal of the Catholic Church
-Money laundering, serial killers, criminal syndicates

While these movies may religious aspects tied in they are hardly a driving force of promoting religion or morality. I haven't seen Constantine or the Exorcism so I can't comment on those. The Passion of the Christ is a religious movie outright that only religious people had interest in ( and Mel Gibson wasn't motivated by religion, he wanted $$$).

Hollywood doesn't tie in religion as a sort of propaganda tool as you seem to suggest, if they did I have a feeling religion would be much more popular than it is today.
 
I was gonna say Ghost In The Shell: Innocence but, while it certainly had all the required elements to make it a mindless ''fast food'' Hollywood action blockbuster, it wasn't made in the US...
 
Hitro said:
But Strangelove is far older than 20 years and FMJ contains both sex and the thought of romance/intimacy.

Besides that it's almost 20 years old...

Yeah, I know they're both too old - I was just responding to BE's mention of 2001 and Clockwork Orange. Besides, those two movies deserve to be mentioned more often in general anyway, IMHO.

I'm trying to think of the romance/intimacy you mentioned for FMJ, and having a hard time coming up with it. I'm assuming the sex you cited was the scene with the Vietnamese prostitute, which I feel somewhat safe in labeling non-romantic. We're not discussing a recruit's love affair with his gun, are we ;) ? (Note: by 'gun', I mean rifle, not the part 'for fun'...)
 
joycem10 said:
Black Hawk Down.

My thoughts exactly.

Ooh and Transformers: The Movie
 
Atlas14 said:
They produce them because they think the public will want to watch them, thus bringing in more money. I hardly doubt they are trying to tell society what they should be doing. Religion happens to make an interesting topic for a movie and people will pay to watch it.

Of course movies make money, the main reason for producing them.

But you are not taking into account the 'artistic' individuals who make them.
Many of the directors and producers feel they have a message to impart, using the power of the film medium.

Don't try and tell me that men like Moore, Speilberg and Gibson have no axes to grind.

Your opinion that it is 'all just about money' is a mere perspective, and falls short of the cold reality.

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March of the Penguins? (Haven't seen it)
 
Did you even watch these movies?

shadowdude said:
-A movie about cloning gone bad

But raises questions about science, and implies that 'man should not try to be like god'...

That is someone's agenda in the script.

shadowdude said:
-A comedic portrayal of the Catholic Church

But also the movie implies that 'god' is indeed real. And makes the out that belief seem 'hip' and 'the right thing.'

Again, someone is trying to tell us something.

shadowdude said:
-Money laundering, serial killers, criminal syndicates

This is one I knew many would fail to pick up on.
Look at the trailer. Notice the letter 'T' in the word 'hostage.'

It lingers and glows for a visible second after the word hostage vanishes.

The 'T' is quite obviously a crucifix. I noticed this instantly, as did my friends at the cinema, some of whom are religious.

So it is not just 'atheist paranoia'. What was the meaning behind this?

Willis is a well-known devout religious type, but this is most likely the work of a marketing board...Why?

shadowdude said:
While these movies may religious aspects tied in they are hardly a driving force of promoting religion or morality. I haven't seen Constantine or the Exorcism so I can't comment on those. The Passion of the Christ is a religious movie outright that only religious people had interest in ( and Mel Gibson wasn't motivated by religion, he wanted $$$).

I think you have to look harder. You are not convincing me here.

For your information, Gibson does not need the cash.
He wants to push his religion, hence why he made a censored
version of his christian snuff movie for the wider audiences.

shadowdude said:
Hollywood doesn't tie in religion as a sort of propaganda tool as you seem to suggest, if they did I have a feeling religion would be much more popular than it is today.

Really?
Funny how you can make such a definite statement, based on what? What you want to believe?

I am talking about individual directors and creators here, not every studio in the USA.

Can you really keep a straight face and say that Mike Moore or Speilberg have no moral message to push in their productions?


Can you?
 
While flirting etc occurs in it, I don't think you can say that Schindler's List has a romantic subplot.

Likewise, I think excluding Saving Private Ryan because a soldier talks about his wife is unfair; the wife, IIRC, plays no role in the plot - she's just mentioned as part of the portrayal of soldierly life.
 
Lock, Stock, and two smoking Barrels for one. Snatch is another, and Mean Machine (based on the original The Longest Yard) don't have romance, though MM does have the main character have sex with this woman as a one-time thing (no romance involved, though).
 
Sparta said:
One of my favorite flicks - Reservoir Dogs.
I thought of that, but Mr. White and Mr. Orange were getting quite cozy, wouldn't you say? ;)
 
Yom said:
I thought of that, but Mr. White and Mr. Orange were getting quite cozy, wouldn't you say? ;)

:lol: True, but in their defense(s), one of them was gutshot, and it ended in the only way acceptable after two grown men have actually embraced...

(meant quite tongue in cheek; no offense to anyone...)

btw, have you noticed that the color of the balloon bouncing on the street behind Nice Guy Eddie's car (while he talks of the possibility of a rat) gives away the answer to his queries? A somewhat interesting bit of res dogs trivia I'd thought. And good answers on Lock Stock and Snatch. People keep getting movies that are sitting on my DVD shelf, and here I sit stuck at work without a lazy man's reference table...
 
Even harder, try naming a Bollywood movie without a love story or some romantic gesture within the plot.
 
Some others without love/romance: Memento, The Straight Story, Die Hard and Sexy Beast.
 
Candidates so far:

Saving Private Ryan
Ivasion USA - not a blockbuster
Predator 1&2
Alien series
Lock Stock & Snatch - (dont remember any offhand, but theres got to be some somewhere)
Reservoir Dogs -believe it or not, never saw that one, but not a blockbuster

March of the Penguins is good but main characters arent human, and not a blockbuster movie.

The strongest possibilities so far are are very violent movies. What does that mean? If theres no romantic theme, violence in the movie will necessarily be high? Very interesting.

Heres probably a much more difficult task: Name one with no romance, sex, or violence:p
 
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