Man'O'War

[ViterboKnight]

I've a problem with this unit.
It's shown fine in the game, but it's not animated, it doesn't roll, and when shooting it remains immobile.
Yes, I've used the Frigate animation.
What could be my problem?

 

[C.Roland]

I've a problem with this unit.
It's shown fine in the game, but it's not animated, it doesn't roll, and when shooting it remains immobile.
Yes, I've used the Frigate animation.
What could be my problem?

Will have to check this. I made this unit before warlords too I think and the bug looks like the galleas bug. The way I added the second row of guns is the same technique as the way I added more oars to the galleas.

 

[Wolfshanze]

The Galleass still hasn't been fixed to be properly animated in BtS.

 

[Xenomorph]

What did they change in BtS anyway? I went and completely uninstalled Civ4, then installed the base game (without any patches) and extracted the galley and frigate files, used them for the trade galley, galleas and frigate, and they still doesn't animate properly.

 

[Wolfshanze]

What did they change in BtS anyway? I went and completely uninstalled Civ4, then installed the base game (without any patches) and extracted the galley and frigate files, and it still doesn't animate properly.

They changed the KFM files for the Galley (and Trireme I think) in BtS from what they were in Vanilla Civ4... doesn't matter either way though... for some reason, even if you JUST install vanilla Civ4 and use the old KFMs in BtS, they still don't animate properly... weird.

 

[Xenomorph]

I'm trying to figure out Blender so I can attempt to fix them myself, but I'm stumped with it. I'm used to GMAX, which I used to do quite a bit of editing to CnC Generals files.

 

[The_Coyote]

at least here it´s a nif problem, the controller was missing (NiMultiTargetTransformController), no idea if this controller was not needed in vanilla

"repaired" fx nif is in the attached (tested in game)

@ C.Roland

do you still plan to rework my culverin texture? would really appreciate it.

 

[Xenomorph]

Is this also the problem with the other broken ships, like the trade galley, single and no masted triremes, the two war junks and the Black Pearl model? If so, do you just need to copy the missing controller into those files?

 

[The_Coyote]

you can try it, but it will not work on every model, atm i tried to fix the Galleas, but i can´t get the oars animated correct (not all oars are animated, some are, already tried to play with the animation, but even with changes there it wont work ). And when you copy the missing part, copy also the NiStringExtraData. Sometime it could be necessary to removed some nodes from the Controller before copying because in the changed model this node was removed (had this by the Galleas)

Edit: when changing a ship with oars link to the BTS animation, the oars position will be wrong (worst is left2 and right3, can be slightly made better with changing the position of the Dam_OarSet2 node in the nif, i used as new y value 17 for the galleas, will look wrong in nifscope)

 

[Xenomorph]

Will your trick at least work for the war junks?

 

[The_Coyote]

should work, but which war junks do you mean? (GM´s war junks? - Edit: Done) The problem with the oars was a changed structure in the warlords nif and changed animation, reexporting the oars from warlords and merging all parts in the warlords nif fixed the problem by the galleas

 

[C.Roland]

at least here it´s a nif problem, the controller was missing (NiMultiTargetTransformController), no idea if this controller was not needed in vanilla

"repaired" fx nif is in the attached (tested in game)

@ C.Roland

do you still plan to rework my culverin texture? would really appreciate it.

Yeah, I'll take a look at it, but last time I did, I thought I should redo the UV map. I'll check this tommorow.

 

[Xenomorph]

Is it possible to add in the missing NiMultiTargetTransformControllerfrom Scene Viewer? I've got Zerver's Black Pearl model and it has the exact same problem. In case it can't be done on Scene Viewer, here's the file since Zerver hasn't reuploaded it yet.

 

[The_Coyote]

@ Xenomorph
yes it´s possible, but didn´t found the thread and the dl was also down, but see attachment

@ C.Roland

thank you, i´m sure the result will be worth the waiting time

 

[Xenomorph]

Awsome, thanks.

 

[JustATourist]

Well, I don't know, if it does matter: I have tried to have a look at the MOWs animations in NifSkope and I got a message that there would be some nodes missing, for example for damage_smoke. Can you just ignore it?

The other thing I have noticed: Roland, can it be, that your ship has lost a canon somewhere?

 

[C.Roland]

Well, I don't know, if it does matter: I have tried to have a look at the MOWs animations in NifSkope and I got a message that there would be some nodes missing, for example for damage_smoke. Can you just ignore it?

The other thing I have noticed: Roland, can it be, that your ship has lost a canon somewhere?

Is it only on the right side on or both ?

 

[JustATourist]

Only on the starboard side. If both would be missing, I would have thought it was intentional.

 

[C.Roland]

Only on the starboard side. If both would be missing, I would have thought it was intentional.

Looks like the crew members assigned to this gunport have drank to much and can't operate this cannon

 

[JustATourist]

Looks like the crew members assigned to this gunport have drank to much and can't operate this cannon

I am relieved now. I thought there would have been an accident on the lower gun deck.