MAP development

[Genghis_Kai]

Unfortunately I really don't know how to do that myself, and have a number of other things I have to get done before I can learn. I was just going to plug in the existing graphics. :-(

hah, don't worry then

 

[Genghis_Kai]

A question for our German friends.

How would you prefer the Essen (Ruhr)–Düsseldorf urban area to be called? This is going to be the largest city in Germany in the scenario and I am calling it Essen for simplicity at the moment. I am just wondering whether there is a common name already in use. I thought of calling it Ruhr area, but doesn't sound too much like a city.

 

[DVS]

This map is great, I love it, and it sounds like everyone else is happy with it too.

One thing I'm thinking about as I look at it more... should we make one or more of those barbarian countries into minor nations, to break it up a bit? From the looks of it, won't the failed states dominate central Africa too much? It's the continuous line of black that is making me think this, Kai, you know more about the strengths and number of cities etc.

Maybe Niger, Central African Republic, Democratic Republic of Congo, Zambia, or some combination of these. I'd have to look in to the political situations in these countries to find which would be best to remove from failed states... right now this thought is just based on geography.

Anyway just a suggestion, Genghis_Kai it's your call obviously. If you think it would work best without this change, I'm sure you're right.

Nation (number of cities):
Morocco(4)
Algeria(5)
Egypt(4)
Sudan(4)
Ethiopia(5)
West African States (5)
Nigeria (6)
Central African States(4)
Angola (4)
South Africa (6)
East African States (6)

This looks perfect to me. I think I forgot to mention that before.


EDIT: One more thing; I think Ecuador should be in the Bolivarian union for sure. Possibly Paraguay as well.

 

[Genghis_Kai]

@DVS. Your concern is quite true. I actually am thinking to make Bangui (Central African Republic) to belong to Central African States. There might be one or two more or these minor changes. I just didn't thought these changes would be too much of a concern to most people so I didn't raise it here.

 

[DVS]

Ok great, glad to hear you had the same concern and have it under control.

Do you agree about Ecuador? I think you may have looked at my post before I made the edit and added that part.

 

[Genghis_Kai]

Ok great, glad to hear you had the same concern and have it under control.

Do you agree about Ecuador? I think you may have looked at my post before I made the edit and added that part.

The Bolivarian Americas does not include Ecuador and Paraguay in reality. Should we add them there? Actually, I am fine either way.

 

[DVS]

Is that a real organization? Anyway I definetly think that Ecuador should be included, they are one of Venezuela's closest allies. They both moved troops to their borders with Columbia during the most recent tensions, for example.

I'm not sure about Paraguay. They are allies, but not as close as far as I know. I think we could leave them out.

 

[Genghis_Kai]

YES! I thought I said that when I propose the name:

Bolivarian Alternative for the Americas

 

[DVS]

Sorry, I missed that. Still, we can't really leave out Ecuador unless we make them their own civ, as a vassal.

 

[DVS]

"Rafael Correa, the president of Ecuador, signed a joint agreement with Hugo Chávez, to become a member of ALBA once he became president,[5] but as of 2008 Ecuador has not joined the organization."

so, close enough?

 

[Genghis_Kai]

Yeah, ok

So you want both Ecuador and Paraguay to be included in the ALBA?

 

[DVS]

Yes, personally I think that would be best. But only if you agree.

 

[Genghis_Kai]

I am fine with either way, so lets include them.

 

[ianinsane]

A question for our German friends.

How would you prefer the Essen (Ruhr)–Düsseldorf urban area to be called? This is going to be the largest city in Germany in the scenario and I am calling it Essen for simplicity at the moment. I am just wondering whether there is a common name already in use. I thought of calling it Ruhr area, but doesn't sound too much like a city.

In Germany that area indeed is called "Ruhrgebiet" which you can translate as "Ruhr Area". As a German you'd have no problem to accept a city called "Ruhrgebiet". Everyone would know what is meant. It just is a megalopolis consisting of many many medium-sized cities. So I think calling it Essen would not measure up to that. Although I can't judge if "Ruhr Area" would appear strange to non-Germans since it really doesn't sound like a city. Alternatively you could just call it "Ruhr".

 

[Genghis_Kai]

In Germany that area indeed is called "Ruhrgebiet" which you can translate as "Ruhr Area". As a German you'd have no problem to accept a city called "Ruhrgebiet". Everyone would know what is meant. It just is a megalopolis consisting of many many medium-sized cities. So I think calling it Essen would not measure up to that. Although I can't judge if "Ruhr Area" would appear strange to non-Germans since it really doesn't sound like a city. Alternatively you could just call it "Ruhr".

Thanks. May be I just call it Ruhr.

 

[sheep21]

Ruhr Area sounds fine over here in the UK, what I have known that part of Germany as for a long time.

 

[NikNaks]

I've heard of the term "Ruhr Valley". Is that the same area?

 

[Ace of Spades]

Why not just call it "Ruhrgebiet" - the native german name? Or is there a naming convention that forbids it?

Best Regards,
Martin

 

[Genghis_Kai]

I tend to use the English name for most of the cities. Nevertheless, if Ruhrgebiet is already widely reckoned as THE name, then I can use it.

 

[Agent327]

The Ruhr/Ruhr is fine. (It's the river the area - Gebiet - is anmed after.)