[Vanilla] Mapping Civilization VI (Base Game up to the SEA DLC)

[Dragonflow]

It's strange to see that Orleans is missing in the french city list...
And no Munich for Germany...
But I like the fact that in the Spanish city list there are some colonial towns like Manila and Havana

I could see some reasons for Munich being absent.
First is of course an oversight by Firaxis and they just forgot to add it. Which is unlikely though since Munich is probably Germany's second most well known city after Berlin.
Second would be historical reasons. The city was founded during the reign of Barbarossa so it was very minor and small at the time of his death thus not making much sense on his city list.
Third reason is that they plan to use Munich as the capital for a future leader for Germany of Bavarian origin. Which isn't too unlikely seeing how the region was always a major player in German politics and offers some interesting leader options.

• Emperor Louis IV: Seems to have been quite an active ruler with involvement in Germany, Italy, the Baltic, Papal Affairs and city development. Not sure if he's different enough from Frederick though to warrant a spot.
• King Maximilian Emanuel: Famous for his participation in the Ottoman Wars and War of Spanish Succession. But he's from the 18th century and if Firaxis wanted a military man from that period they'd certainly go for Frederick II of Prussia instead.
• King Ludwig II: Probably the most famous Bavarian ruler thanks to his building projects like Neuschwanstein, his personality, patronage of Wagner and his mysterious death. He'd be the perfect candidate for a culture and wonder focused German leader. So probably the likeliest of all candidates for Munich.

 

[bite]

I could see some reasons for Munich being absent.
First is of course an oversight by Firaxis and they just forgot to add it. Which is unlikely though since Munich is probably Germany's second most well known city after Berlin.
Second would be historical reasons. The city was founded during the reign of Barbarossa so it was very minor and small at the time of his death thus not making much sense on his city list.
Third reason is that they plan to use Munich as the capital for a future leader for Germany of Bavarian origin. Which isn't too unlikely seeing how the region was always a major player in German politics and offers some interesting leader options.

• Emperor Louis IV: Seems to have been quite an active ruler with involvement in Germany, Italy, the Baltic, Papal Affairs and city development. Not sure if he's different enough from Frederick though to warrant a spot.
• King Maximilian Emanuel: Famous for his participation in the Ottoman Wars and War of Spanish Succession. But he's from the 18th century and if Firaxis wanted a military man from that period they'd certainly go for Frederick II of Prussia instead.
• King Ludwig II: Probably the most famous Bavarian ruler thanks to his building projects like Neuschwanstein, his personality, patronage of Wagner and his mysterious death. He'd be the perfect candidate for a culture and wonder focused German leader. So probably the likeliest of all candidates for Munich.

It wouldn't be my first pick, but that could be an interesting choice

 

[BenZL43]

I like how the Indonesian City list avoids settlement names from present-day Malaysia. It's like they are saving them for a Malaysian Civ! I wouldn't care if Malaysia never makes it to Civ though. I rather they put in Siam, Vietnam, Burma and even the Philippines before Malaysia.

Most likely it's done so to avoid unnecessary conflicts. Y'all probably heard of Malaysia and Indonesia, despite rooted in similar culture, often debated whether a dance, a song, (or as of recently, a celebrity) is Indonesian/Malaysian.

TL;DR Malaysian civ player won't be too pleased to see Kuala Lumpur or Johor under Indonesia civilization, I think.

 

[pgm123]

OK after a day of work the Maps have now been updated

Full Nations Map

Cities Map

If I missed anything let me know, and feel free to share it around

I absolutely love these maps. Not to be too greedy, but if possible, could I get a map of Natural Wonders and City States, perhaps with starting positions for Civs? I'm just curious what that would look like.

 

[Guandao]

Most likely it's done so to avoid unnecessary conflicts. Y'all probably heard of Malaysia and Indonesia, despite rooted in similar culture, often debated whether a dance, a song, (or as of recently, a celebrity) is Indonesian/Malaysian.

TL;DR Malaysian civ player won't be too pleased to see Kuala Lumpur or Johor under Indonesia civilization, I think.

Yes, I'm familiar with Malaysia and Indonesia's....rivalry. Especially since both of my parents were born in Malaysia.

 

[bite]

I absolutely love these maps. Not to be too greedy, but if possible, could I get a map of Natural Wonders and City States, perhaps with starting positions for Civs? I'm just curious what that would look like.

Well if you go the first one, you can see a map with Wonders and City States

 

[BenZL43]

Yes, I'm familiar with Malaysia and Indonesia's....rivalry. Especially since both of my parents were born in Malaysia.

Ah that explains your title. How would you feel then if Firaxis put Malaysian city name under Indonesia civilization?

 

[Guandao]

Ah that explains your title. How would you feel then if Firaxis put Malaysian city name under Indonesia civilization?

I actually wouldn't mind them doing that. I can't see Firaxis adding Malaysia as a Civilization. I don't think they were/ or are important enough. It's better off represented by City-States or as part of Indonesian City-list.

 

[bite]

I actually wouldn't mind them doing that. I can't see Firaxis adding Malaysia as a Civilization. I don't think they were/ or are important enough. It's better off represented by City-States or as part of Indonesian City-list.

It would be a bit odd, like Auckland being in the Australia city list, even though NZ was technically run from Australia for a bit

 

[sonicmyst]

My hopes for a Philippine civ is gone after Indonesia was launched. Cannot imagine having another archipelago in SEA compete with the powerhouse abilities of Indonesia. Plus TSL would be too crowded. Malaysia still has a chance, but I guess Siam and Vietnam will have more chance of showing up due to popularity.

 

[Wingednosering]

Gotta love that Mongol-shaped hole in Asia...

 

[Mr. Shadows]

This is extremely cool. Nice work Bite!

 

[sonicmyst]

@bite Is Iceland and some parts of Nova Scotia not part of Norway during Harald's time?

Edit: found the answer.

In 1262–1264 Iceland came under the control of the King of Norway, who said Icelanders should provide his tax. Terms were set out in an agreement in 1262, which the Icelanders called Gissur conciliation, after the Earl Gissur Þorvaldsson. Here it says that the King will leave the peace and Icelandic laws, and basically it was so.

Harald's reign was from 1046 to 1066.
Kingdom of Norway, though was from 872 to 1397

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

@bite Is Iceland and some parts of Nova Scotia not part of Norway during Harald's time?

Edit: found the answer.

In 1262–1264 Iceland came under the control of the King of Norway, who said Icelanders should provide his tax. Terms were set out in an agreement in 1262, which the Icelanders called Gissur conciliation, after the Earl Gissur Þorvaldsson. Here it says that the King will leave the peace and Icelandic laws, and basically it was so.

Harald's reign was from 1046 to 1066.
Kingdom of Norway, though was from 872 to 1397

Iceland was settled by Norwegians in the 800s though. So you could say it was Norwegian territory, although not yet controlled by the kingdom of Norway.

 

[Gabriel Sergio]

Yes, I'm familiar with Malaysia and Indonesia's....rivalry. Especially since both of my parents were born in Malaysia.

True, like in Southeast asian sports games past months ago, we get totally pissed when our country flag is reverted. Our flag is a sacred and very respected plus they're Malaysia

 

[Inlex]

Gotta love that Mongol-shaped hole in Asia...

What about that almost everything shaped hole in Africa...I'd call it a black hole, since it is so vast and apparently all consuming, but I would be called a racist. That's very much not what I'm trying to convey. But I feel that there is a very obvious gap in the number of civlizations in Africa and South-America. Will we be getting a colonization-themed expansion? (Better yet: Expansion that mimics Sid Meyer's Colonization... I would pay a lot for that)

True, like in Southeast asian sports games past months ago, we get totally pissed when our country flag is reverted. Our flag is a sacred and very respected plus they're Malaysia

Isn't that just the Polish flag?

 

[bite]

@bite Is Iceland and some parts of Nova Scotia not part of Norway during Harald's time?

Edit: found the answer.

In 1262–1264 Iceland came under the control of the King of Norway, who said Icelanders should provide his tax. Terms were set out in an agreement in 1262, which the Icelanders called Gissur conciliation, after the Earl Gissur Þorvaldsson. Here it says that the King will leave the peace and Icelandic laws, and basically it was so.

Harald's reign was from 1046 to 1066.
Kingdom of Norway, though was from 872 to 1397

Yes Norway was a difficult one because it had just divided from Denmark and it is not clear at that time who got what territories, I go into more detail in the Cities Map

 

[bite]

Yes there will be a Rise and Fall update once we know all the Civs/Leaders/Wonders/City States

 

[bite]

Gotta love that Mongol-shaped hole in Asia...

Well on a good note, that got filled today

The big map is getting quite full (will have a separate one with just Rise and Fall Civs)

 

[pgm123]

Well if you go the first one, you can see a map with Wonders and City States

Sorry for the late reply. I meant without World Wonders and only including Natural Wonders and City States. I'm curious about how it'll appear on a TSL map.