Michael Moore appeals to President Obama

Now for me, Iraq was something not black and white and of which I'm still struggling with today. However I was all for Afghanistan. The Taliban wouldn't give us Osama, go in there and get him!
GWB really didn't give the Taliban a chance for them to do so. He gave them an ultimatum and refused to negotiate. The Taliban also demanded some sort of proof that the Al-Qaida had caused 9/11 before turning him over. And GWB was either unable or unwilling to provide it, probably the former.

World sentiment against the 9/11 attacks would have likely forced the Taliban to turn him over in a matter of weeks, especially as more details emerged about the hijackers.
 
We really didn't give Afghanistan a chance for them to "give us Osama". GWB basically gave them an ultimatum and refused to negotiate in the least. World sentiment against the 9/11 attacks would have likely forced the Taliban to turn him over in a matter of weeks.

While you're probably right, I'm not too worried about the prospect of removing the Taliban from power.
 
We really didn't give Afghanistan a chance for them to "give us Osama". GWB basically gave them an ultimatum and refused to negotiate in the least. World sentiment against the 9/11 attacks would have likely forced the Taliban to turn him over in a matter of weeks.

Well, they've couldnt have destroyed the organization by that way; they probably would look for another rich, fanatical Wahabi to lead them.
 
...China blocked Youtube.

Skinny mixed race guy tells it like it is. Iraq was a fools errand. Borders between Afghanistan and Pakistan are where Islamist terror finds a home. Give the generals a couple of battalions and behind the troops have a marshal plan moving in to give the inhabitants a choice/ option besides poppy/ vested interest in stability. Give the Pakistani military all they need on condition it points at the tribal regions not India.

Some of that is reading between the lines.

EDIT that would be obama.
 
I thought the man had beef with the Iraq War. Now hes going against the good war that's been neglected by Dubya? Someone feed him a Twinkie. Don't forget to unwrap the package first.
 
Skinny mixed race guy tells it like it is. Iraq was a fools errand. Borders between Afghanistan and Pakistan are where Islamist terror finds a home. Give the generals a couple of battalions and behind the troops have a marshal plan moving in to give the inhabitants a choice/ option besides poppy/ vested interest in stability. Give the Pakistani military all they need on condition it points at the tribal regions not India.

Some of that is reading between the lines.

EDIT that would be obama.

Good; Obama did his research. Woe to the lazy American who wont pick up a book or listen to what actually votes for:(
 
He's doing an escalation with a defined exit -- what he always said he would do as President.

I must have missed that part. Unless you count a wishful scenario wherein a highly corrupt, Tajik-dominated government propped up by foreign occupiers somehow wins the support of a Pashtun-dominated population.
 
I must have missed that part. Unless you count a wishful scenario wherein a highly corrupt, Tajik-dominated government propped up by foreign occupiers somehow wins the support of a Pashtun-dominated population.

But then how should Karzai deal with the Tajik faction? I always thought that naming the Tajik warlord as Minister of Defense was a good move. And there are many Pashtuns who respect Karzai, so I dont see the problem here.
 
With just one speech tomorrow night you will turn a multitude of young people who were the backbone of your campaign into disillusioned cynics.

*rubs hands together*

Excellent
 
I do have Gorbachev's number though. It's + 41 22 789 1662.

It's to Green Cross International, in Switzerland. An organization that Gorbachev founded, incidentally.

http://www.greencrossinternational.net/contact-us

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I think MM started off incorrectly, using a tone that sounds mildly threatening with his "choose carefully". I do agree with something he said further on:

The haters were not the ones who elected you, and they can't be won over by abandoning the rest of us.
 
Open letter from Ziggy Stardust to Michael Moore:

Dear Mr Moore,

Shut up! Just please shut up.

Thanks,

Ziggy Stardust.
 
Strange how the liberals turn against Moore, everyone's favorate Liberal Muckraker exposing the horrids of the Bush Administration :mischief:.
 
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