Middle-Earth: Lord of the Mods (XIII)

[Drift]

I edited the legolas leaderhead for fun. It's now a little smooth, but I'd take smooth over grainy any day. Tell me if you want it.

 

[mrtn]

@Drift: Hard to say if it isn't in motion... Are you smoothing it and then replacing the palette (in the flc, of course this is how you would do it in the pcx's)?

 

[WildWeazel]

Grainy or not, I prefer it over Comanthir.

 

[Drift]

@mrtn

Those are frames out of the finished flic. I exported each frame of the .flc one by one into paint shop pro and gave them one go of "soften" filter.

Edit:
Here's the forward flic. Don't download unless you are part of LOTM crew and wish to download in order to say your opinion on it. I'll post the final ones to CFC as well.
www.saunalahti.fi/~soilek/jouni/elf fwd.rar

 

[mrtn]

Drift, I think that looks good enough.

But, who to use it for? Noldor (apparently the right hair colour) or Moriquendi (he's in a big wood after all, seems more Celeborn than Gil-Galad...)?

I think I'm partial to Moriquendi.

 

[Mithadan]

Hmmm, thing is if we use a male leaderhead for the Moriquendi, then we're still short one Elvish leaderhead -- we'd have to use either William of Orange or Comanthir for one of our Elvish civs. You are right about the forest background, though. Besides, Legolas was the prince of a Moriquenderin realm. Hmmm. If we settled on Galadriel as leader of the Moriquendi, then we'd have to decide between:

Legolas (sween) = Gil-galad
High Elf (embryodead) = Thingol​

Legolas (sween) = Thingol
High Elf (embryodead) = Gil-galad​

Are either of those combinations workable? If not, then we have to decide who will be the third male leaderhead, which brings us back to deciding between William and Comanthir again (and that's a choice between a rock and a hard place, if you ask me).

My feeling is 'Legolas' would be a better Gil-galad than a Thingol (because of the youth of the leaderhead), and 'High Elf' would be a better Thingol than a Gil-galad (because of the age of the leaderhead). For some reason, Gil-galad always struck me as a youngish king (although Elves are always supposed to look youngish, aren't they? ). At least he died before his time, you could say. Thingol, however, was around for eons. Am I way off on that?

Oh, and of course, a big thank-you to tjedge1 and then Drift!

EDIT: What the hang is Thingol's hair colour supposed to be? How about Gil-galad's?

EDIT2: There were forests in Lindon, no? (But not that foresty, right? )

 

[mrtn]

@Mithadan: I followed PCH's reasoning regarding Thingol using the High Elf LH, because of the white hair they both have.

This gives some possibilities:
1: Noldor use Legolas and Mori use William

2: Noldor use Legolas and Mori use Comanthir

3: Noldor use Legolas and Mori use Theodora

4: Noldor use Legolas and Mori use Inegrid

5: Noldor use William and Mori use Legolas

6: Noldor use Comanthir and Mori use Legolas.

I think this is a working vote, but I'd like PCH to comment first. And as you see, we still have to decide on the Esterner LH.

 

[The Last Conformist]

Gil-Galad, presumably, had black hair, as was the norm among the Noldor (the House of Finarfin being the chief exception). Both hair colour and the background is thus rather off with the Legolas LH. He's hardly ideal as Celeborn either, but much better than as Gil-Galad.

I'd say:
Thingol = High Elf
Celeborn = Legolas
Gil-Galad = request, or, failing that, William.

 

[Olorin0222]

I agree with TLC on the leaderheads. But we may need to use William for the beta, until we can generate some interest in the LH creator circles.

Unit Question: do we have enough Easterlings and Haradrim for the Mod?

Ohhhhh...Idea just came into my head....if we win Kinboat's Deli Line, could we request that he make a leaderhead for Gil-Galad? Or is it certain that it is only for units?

 

[Drift]

When you have decided on what you are going to use the Legolas for, let me know if he needs some subtle color alteration (affecting the whole pic so for example recoloring his hair without touching other parts is naturally out of the question)

 

[mrtn]

Drift, I don't think there's any need for that, at least I can't see a way to make it better by changing the colour tone of the whole picture, I see more risk for ruin than making it better. (Making it greener/bluer would just look weird, and I see no need to make it more red/yellow...)
If you've softened it all I think you could release it.

 

[Drift]

@mrtn

These are the ones I've done. It was mostly just for fun, but they did have a reasoning behind them. The one on the left is the original, the one on the middle is a moriquendi (aren't they supposed to be sort of dark elves?) and the one on the right is a... umm... I don't know what it is, but it sure looks holy/high-elvish.

I can release just the original though.

 

[mrtn]

... the one on the middle is a moriquendi (aren't they supposed to be sort of dark elves?) ...

Heh, that's a classical "newbie" error concerning Tolkiens elves.
They're not darker in any way, it's just that they never saw the lights of Aman.
The Encyclopedia of Arda has this to say about it:

The Dark Elves are often equated with the Avari, who refused the summons of the Valar and remained in the darkness of Middle-earth. This is not strictly correct; 'Dark Elves' also include those such as the Nandor and Sindar who started the Great Journey to Valinor, but never came there.

The "darkness of Middle-earth" is because the sun wasn't created yet.

 

[mrtn]

This post by clearbeard in the MoM thread should interest us regarding the Nazgul. We'd have to ditch Regicide, but only PCH plays that anyway.

 

[Olorin0222]

For the Numenorean LH:

Will the Ancient Napoleon work better than Hannibal?

Napoleon

 

[mrtn]

I don't think so; he looks like a dirty barbarian...

 

[joeskip]

hope you guys don't mind a quick question,

Just heard about this cause I'm new, but a huge fan of lotr,
just wondering if there is any expected completion date or if it is still too far away to tell?

Looks like you guys have done quite a lot already.

 

[WildWeazel]

When it's done
We're hoping to get a beta out later this year, final version is still pretty far off.

I wouldn't like Napoleon for Numenor. The outfit just doesn't fit.

I think we could put in a LH request in the deli line, but you would have to ask Kinboat for sure.

edit: could we use this unit?

 

[SoCalian]

OMG you guys are still working on this! It's been like two years and you still don't have a beta out. WOW!

 

[Drift]

edit: could we use this unit?

Please don't.