Mine those pigs?

[iggymnrr]

I am unable to take screenshots, but I just started a game as Churchill on emperor, random map. On the opening turn I (reflexively) moved my settler off a foodplains and settled smack dab on riverside phants, started a worker, went to the science advisor and selected hunting/AH/BW, then moved my warrior onto a hut and popped a scout. Then I realized that the sole other resource in my BFC is pigs on a hill. I played on until hunting came in and only then did I stop to think. What will that worker do when it finishes? The only thing it can do is to mine pigs. Meanwhile London's border has popped.

There is a west coast, blocked, no sea food. To the north, it seems, some considerable land, so far green. To the east a little wine and silk and probably a coast already blocked. To the south, wowser, more winding, green river with cows, forest and jungle. Additionally spices (awkward) are on view and Ragnar's scout. London itself has 3 green plains, 4 green plains hills (including the one with pigs,) three more riverside green hills, 3 foodplains, one brown riverside plains and the rest is riverside green. (Me thinks cottages!) What's going on here? Is this an obvious case of mining pigs on a hill? Should I switch to a warrior and wait, scouting north?

Furthermore, there is probably something else good in the BFC. If its horse should I switch to the wheel before BW and plan on settling my 2nd city on that winding river so that I can rush Ragnar early?

 

[Kevie]

i would mine it for now, but pasture the pigs after. i think its still going to be a 5 food source even on a mine.

why arent you able to take ss? is ur prt scrn button not working? lol.
press that and paste it into paint. =P

 

[iggymnrr]

Dual-boot Mac, keyboard doesn't have a print screen key. Is there another way?

 

[Monsterzuma]

Should have teched Agriculture to keep your worker busy on those Floodplains.

 

[Torgny]

On a PC you can use Ctrl-P for print screen, I don't know about Mac.

Generally speaking I would improve the foods when there is pigs instead of building a mine, even if it is on a hill. But it depends on the map.

 

[Tiepolo]

Dual-boot Mac, keyboard doesn't have a print screen key. Is there another way?

Apple shift 4 or 3, 4 allows you to adjust capture size

 

[iggymnrr]

On a PC you can use Ctrl-P for print screen, I don't know about Mac.

I've tried that with other combos with the P-key. I get either a ping teammates or a frozen-screen tga file in my screenshots folder. Probably need a screenshot utility or find a keyboard mapping file somewhere.

EDIT: Of course getting BTS for the Mac may be easier!

 

[karadoc]

I always just use the "print screen" button to get a screen shot. On this keyboard it is between F12 and "scroll lock".

 

[iggymnrr]

Thanks, I think what you descibed is the F14 key on my other keyboard, which will probably work. The one I'm using now is old, old reliable. (Rather funny with a newer computer. Can't give it up.) As to the game, having bypassed agriculture en route to AH it probably best to stick to that decision (no grains spotted) and switch to a warrior for scouting to reduce worker downtime. Mine the pigs, and, hopefully, horse shows up so the worker can be fairly busy while teching the wheel or BW. Not sure yet whether roads or chopping is better. Depends, I think, if horse shows up.

 

[Kadazzle]

Thanks, I think what you descibed is the F14 key on my other keyboard, which will probably work. The one I'm using now is old, old reliable. (Rather funny with a newer computer. Can't give it up.) As to the game, having bypassed agriculture en route to AH it probably best to stick to that decision (no grains spotted) and switch to a warrior for scouting to reduce worker downtime. Mine the pigs, and, hopefully, horse shows up so the worker can be fairly busy while teching the wheel or BW. Not sure yet whether roads or chopping is better. Depends, I think, if horse shows up.

Chopping is instant production, while roads are a potential +1 commece (which can be attained by rivers or coast). Chopping is better.

 

[iggymnrr]

I agree that chopping is more production, but I did bypass agriculture, do have mining, so I have some time for the wheel since the capitol screems cottages and isn't so well suited for slavery. Delaying the initial worker is also a reason for delaying BW. Horses did appear so the worker now has a lot to do mining pigs and hooking up horse. If there is a few turns left an odd road or two is all I lose (gain?) for not being able to chop sooner.

But I am now thinking this map is too easy to be worth playing out. There is a lot of land north, east and southwest. 35 turns into the game and only Ragnar is around? It's like if I rush Ragnar what will I do? Beeline redcoats and use them against barbs?

 

[iggymnrr]

Thanks for all the help. Still working on the screenshot problem but the Churchill game was abandoned in favor of a more challenging map. It was too easy to get two prime river cottage cities and the first city snatched from Ragnar had like 5 dyes and practically sealed off half the land mass everyone started on. No problem on resources. Nobody close by. The fun was over in a hurry.

So on the second Churchill attempt I drew yet another river. This time with corn, cows and lots of trees. Make for an easy tech opening: agriculture/AH/BW. Worker first!

 

[Kevie]

normally when i see FP, I go for cottages. =P its something for your worker to do.

 

[Gliese 581]

There are times when it's a good idea like when you need another start tech more or you lack both agri and hunting and decided to get a worker fast enough that you can't pasture the pigs right away. There might be some other circumstances like doing a fast quechua rush before you get slavery to utilize the food.

 

[iggymnrr]

Thanks! FWIT in the 2nd Churchill game I changed my mind and went Ag/BW/sailing ... instead. Cows were farmed. Guess if a person can mine pigs he can farm cows.