Ministry of War: The Path to Conquest

[Sarevok]

We must understand our situation, despite all of this pacifist nonsense we will have to fight to survive. We are surrounded by nations that would destroy us as soon as they are ready. In this, we must be ready for them. Now we know our surroundings a bit more, and we have met many more civs. Most of these civs are quite agressive and will be a threat later. The question is now, which of these civs is a bigger threat?

 

[Black_Hole]

i need to look at the save b4 i decide, but right now i think babylon should be the first target since they are our sworn enemies...

 

[blackheart]

Babylon is behind mountains, so no fluent contact for a while. Iroquois are too fare away. So that leaves the Zulu and Romans. I'd both of them are a big threat.

 

[BCLG100]

everyone we know has an ancient UU, therefore i think we have to judge which would be the easiest to beat, after that when we have a larger territory we can start taking out who really matters, Babylon will be a big thread Culturally, the iroqouis are always a pain in my game. i think we should take out the babylonians first, then onto the zulu, their UU isnt as formidable as the roman Legion. upon entering the Middle Age it is mainly who we want upon getting gunpowder as most of their UU's become redundant.

 

[Rik Meleet]

Dear Minister Sarevok.

Although the science department doesn't share your irrational fears, we are willing to help you in researching the required technology for a defensive war. Yes defensive not offensive. Offensive warring leads to a need for many units, thus a high unit-support cost, which does reduce our researching ability too much.

I am pleased to inform you that my scientists have got a great plan which will make all UU's our friendly neighbours have seem nothing. The swordsmen we already gave you have greater potential. We are convinced we can improve them in a couple of centuries (if enough is spend on science) to make them fast, strong in offense and strong in defense. We have envisioned them and in the Department of Science we refer to them as "Saamurai". (My deputy Saam came up with that name).

If you go on an offensive war, you'll face stronger units then we can currently train, and you will reduce the research capabilities. This could be devastating as it will lengthen the time in which the Science Department can give you those Saamurai.

Pleases consider this.

Yours truly,
Rik Meleet
Minister of Science.

 

[BCLG100]

lol saamurai

anyways i think i may have got your meaning wrong, but dont horsemen upgrade to samurai, swordsmen in vanilla upgrade to nothing.

 

[Rik Meleet]

<off-topic> I know that, BCLG; swords do not upgrade to samurai; horsemen do. But I think swordsmen look a lot more like samurai than horsemen do. <end off-topic>

 

[Black_Hole]

<off-topic> I know that, BCLG; swords do not upgrade to samurai; horsemen do. But I think swordsmen look a lot more like samurai than horsemen do. <end off-topic>

thats because they have samurai replacing knights(i have no clue why )

 

[mhcarver]

I personally favor going for someone we can beat now, preferably the zulus because I have a natural tendency to invade African civs

 

[Chieftess]

thats because they have samurai replacing knights(i have no clue why )

Because, at the time, there were no Medival Infantry to replace.

 

[Cyc]

Saamurai...Is that like ham on rye? Sounds good! I'm hungry...

 

[MSTK]

The Romans have Legions, so Zulus are an easier target.

 

[Sarevok]

Dear Minister Sarevok.

Although the science department doesn't share your irrational fears, we are willing to help you in researching the required technology for a defensive war. Yes defensive not offensive. Offensive warring leads to a need for many units, thus a high unit-support cost, which does reduce our researching ability too much.

I am pleased to inform you that my scientists have got a great plan which will make all UU's our friendly neighbours have seem nothing. The swordsmen we already gave you have greater potential. We are convinced we can improve them in a couple of centuries (if enough is spend on science) to make them fast, strong in offense and strong in defense. We have envisioned them and in the Department of Science we refer to them as "Saamurai". (My deputy Saam came up with that name).

If you go on an offensive war, you'll face stronger units then we can currently train, and you will reduce the research capabilities. This could be devastating as it will lengthen the time in which the Science Department can give you those Saamurai.

Pleases consider this.

Yours truly,
Rik Meleet
Minister of Science.

Honorable Minister,

This is for offensive warfare. However, I will not be in office when these offensives are made. I will hope that my sucessor will wait until we have our elite Samurai before we attack another nation.

 

[Civman2004]

I tend to find the Romans get easier to beat as the game goes on, but the Zulu get harder. I'd be all for taking out the Romans. With this many civs around us, the Zulu aren't going to expand that much, and they'll start to choke in the Medieval period. The Romans, however, will start to thrive and start trading, and could be a very big threat by the Industrial Era. If we must wipe out someone, I vote Romans!

 

[MSTK]

At this age, Romans have Legions, which are the anti-Immortals. Immortals have unparalleled attack, and Legions have almost the same, in defense. I agree that Romans would be my personal choice, but the Zulu are just easier...

But didn't some of us want this game to be a peaceful one...unlike DG4?

 

[Sarevok]

At this age, Romans have Legions, which are the anti-Immortals. Immortals have unparalleled attack, and Legions have almost the same, in defense. I agree that Romans would be my personal choice, but the Zulu are just easier...

But didn't some of us want this game to be a peaceful one...unlike DG4?

To survive we must conquer. When it concerns our survival pacifism will get us killed. That is the simple truth.

Ok, so it looks like the contenders are the Romans and the Zulu

I honestly hope my sucessor to the ministry is not some pacifist fool, otherwise this discussion will be made void and our very survival will be destroyed...

 

[superpelon]

Im a declared pacifist (in THIS demogame...), so Im am against any offensive military action.

HOWEVER.

I tend to agree with Sarevok. We NEED to kill off one the the other civs that are around us. We need more land, more resources. That is obvious. And since it seems the demogames destiny to have a final doomsday battle against the Babylonians.

I say the Zulu.
Kill them all.

 

[MSTK]

Zulu would make a good roadblock for the expansion of Romans and Babylonians. Not to mention the French.

If we conquer Rome then we have surrounded Babylon and may proceed to gnaw at her.

 

[invy]

If we take Zulu teritory game will be too easy . We need more land so we will go to war anyway.
I think we will be able to take outside Babs city because their capital is behind mountains. Lets take what we want and make peace.
Zulu has great potential and will surely attack France or us when the time comes.
Romans? Still unknown. If they don't get iron they might be easy target.

 

[blackheart]

Im a declared pacifist (in THIS demogame...), so Im am against any offensive military action.

HOWEVER.

I tend to agree with Sarevok. We NEED to kill off one the the other civs that are around us. We need more land, more resources. That is obvious. And since it seems the demogames destiny to have a final doomsday battle against the Babylonians.

I say the Zulu.
Kill them all.

So much for pacifism eh? I would personally go for the Zulu. Their UU is already obsolete by now and their tech is behind ours.