Missing Civilizations

[Tunch Khan]

This thread aims at creating a database for adding the missing civilizations for those who'd like to mod them. I suggest those who are interested in other civilizations should add some information about the nation, name; capital; cities; suggested leaders; UU; great people (scientist, merchant, prophet, engineer, artist).

These are the poll results from this forum about your opinions on which Civs should be added with around 300 Civ fans participating and Babylonians are the most missed civilization with Turks and Vikings sharing a close second, Carthage/Phoenicia; Celts; and Zulu to follow. I will reserve the next six posts for these civilizations and we can all discuss on these as well as new ideas and suggestions.

Assyria 59 20.07%
Babylon 170 57.82%
Celts 104 35.37%
Carthage/Phoenicia 122 41.50%
Dutch 95 32.31%
Iroquois 90 30.61%
Israel ( or ancient tribe ) 77 26.19%
Khmer 41 13.95%
Korea 71 24.15%
Maya 94 31.97%
Poland 41 13.95%
Polynesia 40 13.61%
Portugal 66 22.45%
Siam 31 10.54%
Sioux 55 18.71%
Songhai 20 6.80%
Turks/Ottomans 147 50.00%
Vikings 155 52.72%
Zulus 97 32.99%
Other 49 16.67%
Confederate States
British Empire
Canada
Austria and Hungary
Abyssinia
Australia
Servia
Latvia
Quebec
Philippines
Brazil
Scots
The Northeast
Czechs
Thracians
Byzantium
Swiss
Tartessos
Bosnia
Courdes


Progress going on
Finished product w/o LH
Finished product with initial LH support
Ready to serve with LH & UU

Please note: Leaderheads and Unique Units require additional graphic work that will take more time to complete.

 

[Tunch Khan]

Leader : Hammurabi - Creative and Industrious, favors Organized Religion
Sargon - Aggressive and Spiritual, favors Police State

Capital : Babylon

Flag : Golden lion on dark blue

Starting Techs : The Wheel and Agriculture

Great Scientists : Sennacherib, Nabonidus

Great Merchants : Urumu-ush, Ahikar

Great Prophets : Gilgamesh, Enheduanna, Assur-bani-pal

Great Artists : Sin-liqi-unninni

Great Engineers : Tiglath-pileser III

Unique Unit : War Chariot, Babylonian Bowman

Cities :

Babylon
Ur
Nineveh
Ashur
Ellipi
Akkad
Uruk
Eridu
Samarra
Lagash
Kish
Nippur
Shuruppak
Zariqum
Sippar
Izibia
Larsa
Nimrud
Zamua
Khorsabad
Hindana
Tell Wilaya
Umma
Adab
Telloh
Nina
Ebla
Isim
Elam
Susa
Senkera
Shirgulla
Entemena
Mari
Yarmuti
Ebla
Amanus
Taurus
Kalakh
Arrapkha
Dur Shakkukin
Kalhu
Karkhemish
Harran
Tur Abdin
Khabur
Mari
Khalwan
Terge
Suru
Arbhela
Ecbatanna
Nisibhin
Khabur
Gundeshapur
Qarqar
Rasappa
Hatra
Raqqah
Ruha
Kullimeri
Arpad
Hamath
Gublu
Anduarsalia
Anmurru
Til Garimmu
Itua
Hit
Anah
Kakzu
Gasur
Calah
Barsippa
Nimit Ishtar
Aninua
Shibaniba
Dur Sharrukin
Balata
Tarbisu
Simmurrum
Asari
Imbur-Bel
Tell Rimah
Arballu
Kar-Tukulti
Nimurta
Hatra
Rania
Jerwan
Marad
Kutha
Neribtum
Dur-Kurigalzu
Tadmor
Lachish
Kalhu
Der
Karkheh
Mari
Taima
Riblah
Tushpa
Qarqar
Dan
Hazor

Please suggest leader traits, UU and great leaders. The ones I have listed here are the basic initial suggestions.

 

[Tunch Khan]

Leader : Mehmed II - Creative and Expansive, favors Hereditary Rule
Selim the Grim - Agressive and Expansive, favors Theocracy
Suleyman the Magnificent - Financial and Philosophical, favors Bureaucracy
Mustafa Kemal - Organized and Creative, favors Free Religion

Capital : Istanbul

Flag : White crescent and star on red

Starting Techs : Mining and Hunting

Great Scientists : Molla Fenari, Ali Kuscu, Kadizade Rumi, Ibn-i Sina, Imam Gazali, Mahmud Sipahizade, Molla Lutfi, Mirim Celebi, Nasuh Matraki

Great Merchants : Ali Ekber (first Ottoman merchant to China), Seyfi Celebi, Ibrahim al-Tokadi, Seydi Ali Reis, Lutfi Celebi, Sakip Sabanci, Vehbi Koc, Nejat Eczacibasi

Great Prophets : Mevlana Celaleddin Rumi, Yunus Emre, Haci Bektas Veli, Pir Sultan Abdal, Hoca Ahmet Yesevi, Sheyh Bedreddin, Nasreddin Hoca (folkloric philosopher), Said-i Nursi (controversial spiritual person with significant number of followers), Asik Veysel

Great Artists : Dede Korkut, Omer Khayyam, Fuzuli, Evliya Celebi, Dede Efendi, Sinasi, Namik Kemal, Tevfik Fikret, Osman Hamdi Bey, Halide Edip Adivar, Nazim Hikmet, Orhan Veli Kanik, Yasar Kemal, Munir Nurettin Selcuk

Great Engineers : Mimar Sinan, Hezarfen Celebi, Piri Reis, Ibrahim Muteferrika, Mehmed Said Efendi, Cezayirli Gazi Hasan Pasa, Cezayirli Seyyid Hasan, Yanyali Hoca Ishak, Kirkor Amira Balian

Unique Unit : Janissary, Sipahi

Cities :

Istanbul
Edrine
Bursa
Iznik
Uskudar
Izmit
Manisa
Aydin
Antalya
Konya
Adana
Sinop
Ankara
Kutahya
Balikesir
Eskisehir
Trabzon
Sivas
Kayseri
Karaman
Afyon
Uskup
Canakkale
Karahisar
Manastir
Silistre
Kavala
Kalkandelen
Mugla
Denizli
Bolu
Pristine
Saraybosna
Urfa
Diyarbakir
Erzurum
Antep
Maras
Bingol
Erzincan
Rize
Zonguldak
Dobruca
Sivastopol
Kirklareli
Samsun
Burgaz
Varna
Ruscuk
Tekirdag
Cankiri
Kastamonu
Bitlis
Mardin
Van
Milas
Kars
Ardahan
Beyazid
Nusaybin
Kerkuk
Suhumkale
Derbend
Yenikale
Batum
Baku
Iskece
Yozgat
Tunceli
Akhisar
Kirikkale
Iskenderun

 

[Tunch Khan]

Leader : Ragnar Lodbrok - Aggressive and Expansive, favors Slavery
Harald Hardråda - Aggressive and Spiritual, favors Hereditary Rule
Gustav II Adolf - Philosophical and Creative, favors Bureuacracy
Harald Bluetooth - Organized and Expansive, favors Organized Religion

Capital : Trondheim

Flag : Dragon-prow of a Longboat on blue(?) or black raven on white

Starting Techs : Mining and Fishing

Great Scientists : Carl von Linné, Anders Celsius, Jöns Jacob Berzelius, Anders Jonas Ångström, Carl Wilhelm Scheele, Tycho Brahe, Alfred Nobel, Niels Bohr, Ole Romer

Great Merchants : Ingvar Kamprad, Lars Magnus Ericsson, Ivar Kreuger, A.P. Moller

Great Prophets : Saint Birgitta, Saint Olav, Søren Kierkegaard, Raoul Wallenberg, Dag Hammarskjöld, Saint Knud, Holy Anders

Great Artists : Hans Christian Anderssen, Jenny Lind, Greta Garbo, Ingmar Bergman, Ingrid Bergman, Elsa Beskow, Astrid Lindgren, August Strindberg, Carl Michael Bellman, Evert Axel Taube, Anders Leonard Zorn, Edvard Munch, Edvard Grieg, Knut Hamsun, Henrik Ibsen, Selma Lagerlöf, Snorri Sturluson

Great Engineers : Johan Ericsson, Gustaf de Laval, Håkan Lans(?), Gustav Larsson, Mads Clausen

Unique Unit : Longboat, Berserker

Cities :

Trondheim
Birka
Hedeby
Uppsala
Ribe
Eketorp
Roskilde
Trondenes
Aarhus
Uppåkra
Sigtuna
Lindholm Høje
Skara
Visby
Tønsberg
Jelling
Lade
Helgö
Steigen
Aggersborg
Paviken
Slesvik
Odense
Reykjavik
Brattahlid
Viborg
Tunafors
Oslo
Bjørgvin
Jorvik
Nicopia
Alesund
Harstad
Örebro
Lejre
Aldeigjuborg
Nylösa
Ronneby
Westness
Jarlshof
Holmgård
Kvivik
Herjolfsnes
Lund
Askrigg
Sebbersund
Helsingborg
Nyborg
Lahammer
Tune
Seeburg
Ringerike
Fyrkat
Trelleborg
Bytoften
Brumunddal
Kramfors
Vinland
Köping
Västerås
Jomsborg
Könugård
Aker
Truso
Wolin
Aldeigjuborg
Straumfjörðr
Hóp

Please suggest leader traits. The ones I have listed here are the basic initial suggestions.

 

[Tunch Khan]

Leader : Hannibal - Aggressive and Expansive, favors Police State
Dido - Financial and Organized, favors Free Market

Capital : Carthage

Flag : Palm tree (with a horse) on burgundy

Starting Techs : Fishing, Hunting

Great Scientists : Bomilcar, Tanit, Eshmuniaton

Great Merchants :

Great Prophets :

Great Artists :

Great Engineers :

Unique Unit : War Elephant, Numidian Horseman

Cities :

Carthage
Utica
Malaca
Caralis
Panormus
Leptis Parva
Cartenna
Rusicade
Gades
Rusucurru
Girba
Leptis Magna
Carthago Nova
Oea
Tingis
Rusaddir
Alalia
Selinus
Himera
Akragas
Theveste
Saguntum
Carteia
Mainake
Sexi
Abdera
Lixus
Hippo Regius
Hadrumentum
Sabrata
Soleis
Motya
Tharros
Sulcis
Nora
Mago
Palma
Ebusus
Kinyps
Melite
Lilybaeum
Tangier
Algiers
Tripoli
Sijilmasa
Casablanca
Tamanrasset
Saldae
Rusguniae
Thaenae
al-Kaf
Zouchis
Gigthis
Tacape
Zama

 

[Tunch Khan]

Leaders : Brennus - Aggressive and Spiritual, favors Organized Religion
Vercingetorix - Organized and Financial, favors Mercantilism

Capital : Pyreene

Flag : Celtic cross?

Starting Techs : Hunting and Mysticism

Great Scientists : John Dee (alchemist), Giraldus Cambrensis, Ernest Jones, William Jones, Dr William Price, Alfred Russel Wallace

Great Merchants : Sir Howard Stringer, David Buick, Andrew Carnegie, John Law, William Paterson

Great Prophets : Saint David, Howell Harris, Seth Joshua, Saint Mungo

Great Artists : Aneirin (medieval poet), Ann Griffiths, Hedd Wyn, Walter Map, Henry Vaughan

Great Engineers : John Nash, Charles Stewart Rolls, Henry Bell, Charles Macintosh, James Watt

Unique Unit : Gallic Warrior

Cities :

Pyreene
Geneva
Milan
Galatia
Belgrade
Entremont
Dublin
Edinburgh
Cardiff
Budapest
Kells
Armagh
Caernarfon
Tintagel
Carmarthen
Caerphilly
Cork
Rhymney
Iona
Rhondda
Illauntanig
Swansea
Durrow
Merthyr
Tara
Llangollen
Dinas Powys
Aberystwyth
Rhayader
Abergavenny
Dinas Emrys
Cardigan
Llanelli
Maesteg
Neath
Angora
Alesia
Lugdunum
Camulodunum
Richborough
Verulamium
Gergovia
Augustodurum
Agedincum
Eboracum
Burdigala
Cataractonium
Lapurdum
Ratae Coritanorum
Tolosa
Lindum
Nemausus
Curovernum
Glanum
Isca
Segusio
Rutupiae
Monguntiacum
Glevum
Axima
Deva
Lezoux
Noviomagus
Arausio
Durocortorum

Alternate Gaulish city names by (Thamis):

Bibracte
Lutetia
Avaricum
Alesia
Cenabum
Tolosa
Uxellodunum
Vesontio
Agendincum
Cavillonum
Decetia
Gorgobina
Lemonum
Metlosedum
Narbo
Genava
Nemetocenna
Octodurus
Gergovia
Samarobriva
Bibrax
Matisco
Cavillonum
Burdigala
Agendincum
Redones
Santoni
Vellaunodunum
Mediomatrici
Atuatuca
Bratuspantium

Alternate Cornish Cities by (Sa~Craig):

Plymouth
Truro
Taunton
Exeter
St. Austell
Bridgwater
Torquay
Penzance
Glastonbury
Tiverton
Newquay
Frome
Helston
Cheddar
Barnstaple
Saltash
Crewkerne
Newton Abbot
Bodmin
Yeovil
Exmouth
Bude
Redruth
Minehead
Ilfracombe
Hugh Town
Bristol
Bath
Weston-Super-Mare


Alternate Welsh City Names by (Smokey Monkey):

Rulerrince Owain Glyndwr

Cardiff Caerdydd
Swansea Abertawe
St Davids Tyddewi
Bangor Bangor
Newport Casnewydd
Aberystwyth Aberystwyth
Llandaff Llandaf
Wrexham Wrecsam
Carmarthen Caerfyrddin
Conway Conwy
Milford Haven Aberdaugleddau
Haverfordwest Hwlffordd
Merthyr Tydfil Merthyr Tudful
Maesteg Maesteg
Caernarvon Caernarfon
Cardigan Ceredigion
Pembroke Penfro
Neath Castell-nedd
Bridgend Pen-y-bont
Llanelli Llanelli
Holyhead Caergybi
Caerleon Caerllion
Tenby Dinbych-y-pysgod
Caerphilly Caerffili

 

[Tunch Khan]

Leader : Shaka - Aggressive and Expansive, favors Police State
Nelson Mandela - Creative and Spiritual, favors Universal Sufferage

Capital : Ulundi

Flag : Pair of crossed spears on a zulu shield

Starting Techs : Hunting and Agriculture

Great Scientists :

Great Merchants :

Great Prophets :

Great Artists : Phuzekhemisi, Mfazomnyama, Ladysmith Black Mambazo

Great Engineers :

Unique Unit : Impi

Cities :

Ulundi
Lusaka
Bapedi
Sofala
Hlobane
Maputo
Isandhlwana
Durban
Intombe
Mpondo
Ngome
Swazi
Tugela
Umtata
Umfolozi
Ibabanago
Isipezi
Amatikulu
Zunguin
Dakar
Nairobi
Kinshasa
Zimbabwe
N'Djamena
Lubumbashi
Luanda
Intombe
Douala
Cape Town
Pongola
Mandini
Ixopo
Mtunzini
Empangeni
Umlalazi
Tuzi Gazi
Enseleni
Magudu
Vryheid
Nongoma
Babanango
Eshowe
Colenso
Nguthu
Hluhluwe
Jozini
Kosi Bay
Mkuze
Mtubatuba
Sodwana Bay
St Lucia
Umkomaas
Hibberdene
Amanzimtot

Please suggest leader traits and great leaders. The ones I have listed here are the basic initial suggestions.

 

[Loppan Torkel]

Swedish cities: Sigtuna, Östra Aros, Västra Aros, Uppsala, Visby, Skara, Lund,

Nordic Scientists: Carl von Linné, Anders Celsius, Jöns Jacob Berzelius, Anders Jonas Ångström, Carl Wilhelm Scheele, Lars Magnus Ericsson, Tycho Brahe, Alfred Nobel,

Artists: Sören Kierkegaard, ABBA , Metallica , HC Anderssen, Jenny Lind, Greta Garbo, Ingmar Bergman, Ingrid Bergman, Dag Hammarsköld(?), Elsa Beskow, Astrid Lindgren, August Strindberg, Carl Michael Bellman, Evert Axel Taube, Anders Leonard Zorn, Edvard Munch,

Merchants: Ingvar Kamprad, Lars Magnus Ericsson,

Engineers: Johan Ericsson, Gustaf de Laval, Håkan Lans(?)

Prophets: Saint Birgitta, Saint Olav,

Edit: If it's Scandinavians rather than Vikings only (since, for example, all scientific leaders come after the Viking period), Gustav II Adolf would be a nice leader and diversity from the Viking leaders. An improved cannon could be the UU.

 

[Tunch Khan]

Edit: If it's Scandinavians rather than Vikings only (since, for example, all scientific leaders come after the Viking period), Gustav II Adolf would be a nice leader and diversity from the Viking leaders. An improved cannon could be the UU.

I added your cities and people to the previous list, ABBA and Metallica are fun additions, but should we add them as great people of Vikings? Because they are a group of people, but i wouldn't mind it if people are pleased that way. Dag Hammarskjöld on the other hand is not an artist but a great diplomat. I placed him under prophets after his only published book "Markings" as he's truly a man of faith, duty and mission. Markings is a monumental book about his spiritual journey within his heart to transcend him deep into Mysticism.

 

[oldStatesman]

Well here is a start for Polynesia - pardon any inaccuracies - I am very much an amatuer historian who is just develing into the Polynesian culture (I am not a naitve in any way shape or form) and this list is just meant as a starting point. It is as of now mainly an amalgamam of Maori and Hawaiin influences; however the area is rich wiht many other Island cultures so any other candidates are welcome.

Leader : Kamehameha the Great (Hawaii) Kopura-tahi (Mythical King of the forebears of the original Polynesians as preserved by the Takitumu tribe of Maori)

Capital : New Guinea (Place where it is generally thought the original Polynesians sailed from on their Diaspora)

Great Scientists : Tupaia (Navigator and Priest, Accompanied Capt. Cook), Duke Kahanamoku (Inventor of Surfing)

Great Merchants : Hiro (Legendary Tahtian who built first ocean going 'cargo' canoe thus enabling commerce and exploration)

Great Prophets : Te Kooti (Maori Religious leaswer and warrior) Lono (Hawiian God)

Great Artists : Don Ho, (Singer) Paul Gauguin (French Artist who made Tahiti famous)

Great Engineers : Atua Ure Rangi (Easter Island King representative of the building of the Moai - the Great Statues of Easter Island)

Unique Unit : Māori War Canoe

Cities (Note- Using Island groups here instead of cities to reflect the character of this unique culture):
Anuta (in the Solomon Islands)
Cook Islands (self-governing former territory of New Zealand)
Easter Island (part of Chile, called Rapa Nui in Rapa Nui)
Emae (in Vanuatu)
Hawai‘i (a state of the United States)
Kapingamarangi (in the Federated States of Micronesia)
Loyalty Islands (a dependency of the French territory of New Caledonia)
Mele (in Vanuatu)
Aotearoa (called New Zealand)
Niue (a self-governing dependency of New Zealand)
Nuguria (in Papua New Guinea)
Nukumanu (in Papua New Guinea)
Nukuoro (in the Federated States of Micronesia)
Ontong Java (in the Solomon Islands)
Pileni (in the Solomon Islands)
Rennell (in the Solomon Islands)
Rotuma (an island in the extreme north of Fiji)
Samoa (independent nation)
Sikaiana (in the Solomon Islands)
Swains Island (politically part of American Samoa)
Takuu (in Papua New Guinea)
Tikopia (in the Solomon Islands)
Tokelau (overseas dependency of New Zealand)
Tonga (independent nation)
Tuvalu (independent nation)
Wallis and Futuna (overseas territory of France)

Most Research from Wikpedia and New Zealand Electronic Text center http://www.nzetc.org/index.html

 

[huntunc]

Posted this a while back, but here it is again

The South

Leader: I know that Jefferson Davis is the easy defaut for a Southern leader, but how about one of the secessionists instead of an inept leader of a bankrupt government? I say John C. Calhoun, philispohical (as there is no doubt he was an influencial and genius statesman, much like Scalia you might not agree with his views but its hard to disagree with his logic) and industrious (I realize that the South wasn't really industious at the time, but if you look at the actual benefit of wonder production then the promotion of a state's right to slave labor seems most appropriate). He would favor nationhood civic.

Alternate Leader: Martin Luther King, Jr. is spiritual and expansive and favors universal suffrage. This could help take the edge off of those who would falsely percieve a Southern civilization as predominantly racist (or at least any more racist than others). It would also be a giant step over the other alternate leaders which seem more or less to represent the same ideals perceptions on a civilizations culture.

UU: The Confederate Submarine. Should come along earlier than most other submarines, probably the same time as the ironclads and have the same stealth and attack capabilites of a normal submarine. Advantage of the unique unit is not in its base stats, but in the earlier spot on the tech tree.

Alternate UU: Johnny Reb. Is a unit that arises in any age as the highest tech defensive unit (spearmen, musketman, rifleman) who functions much like partisans in Civ 2, in that they pop up after an invasion. However, it would only occur after an invasion by a former ally...say a certain diplomacy ranking during the prior 10 or 15 turns. This would be a fairly accurate representation of the patriotic Southern soldier, who did not fight for slavery but against an invading army. Cost is free, but can not be built and occur at random roll of die (like global warming, but with better odds) and is affected by level of culture and happiness in the conquered city and units may continue to appear from the time of conquer until peace is declared. Is not available until the discovery of Civil Service.

Capital City: Atlanta, not the actual capital at the time of the war. However, there is no doubt that it is the capital of the New South and as we are looking at a civilization as a whole we should look at the entire history of the Civilization not just four years (hence the inclusion of Calhoun and King as the leaders). In addition, this would help with the problem of the South only building Richmond and America having 4 or 5 cities including "Atlanta" and then wanting to build other citeis and Atlanta not being a choice.

Other Cities: Richmond, Charleston, New Orleans, Savannah, Nashville, Birmingham, Jackson, Memphis (will probably be gone by the time you get to it b/c of Egyptians), Chattanooga, Willaimsburg and St. Augustine (very Old South), Charlotte and Arlington (representing the New South).

Great People, assuming like in Civ III

Great Artist: Faulkner

Great Merchantman: Ted Turner

Great Engineer: How about Andrew Jackson for the barricades in New Orleans "during" the War of 1812. Sorry I'm not an expert on great engineers.

Great Prophet: Billy Graham

Colors: Red, secondary Gray.

Flag: Anything other than the Confederate Battle Flag doesn't seem very depictive...but definently open to nonconfrontational alternatives, especailly with MLK as alternate who I can't see carrying a Confederate Battle Flag.

Culture group (I assume there is a visual difference in how units and improvements appear on the map): Mixed or Euro and African in appearance of units, but Euro in improvements and early settlements.

Unfortunately, I know absolutely nothing about computers and this is the only game I've really played since I was 13 years old when I got my first Civ I for my Dad's Mac. Anyone interested in helping me to create this civilization for real in the modding stuff, or want to give me some hints on how this can easily be done??? I get tired of just creating a custom civ and changing my leader name and cities to get the desired effect and end up with an Elephant as my unique unit. Thanks for reading this far.

 

[Tunch Khan]

huntunc's suggestion reminded me of the flags; it would be great if you could also suggest a brief description (or image if it's really necessary) of the flag of the civilization you are proposing. I would recommend the following default outline to avoid confusion:

Civilization :

Leader :

Capital :

Flag :

Starting Techs :

Great Scientists :

Great Merchants :

Great Prophets :

Great Artists :

Great Engineers :

Unique Unit :

Cities :

 

[Loppan Torkel]

I added your cities and people to the previous list, ABBA and Metallica are fun additions, but should we add them as great people of Vikings? Because they are a group of people, but i wouldn't mind it if people are pleased that way. Dag Hammarskjöld on the other hand is not an artist but a great diplomat. I placed him under prophets after his only published book "Markings" as he's truly a man of faith, duty and mission. Markings is a monumental book about his spiritual journey within his heart to transcend him deep into Mysticism.

I heard about his book "Markings", have you read it?

I should mention also that the list I posted is pretty Swedish-sided. Some of the persons might not be "great" enough, especially if any Danes or Norwegians, or Icelanders for the matter, would add their suggestions to the list...

You should also decide whether you want "anglospelling" or our native spelling to the names.

 

[Tunch Khan]

I heard about his book "Markings", have you read it?

I have read some articles on it with quotations. I'll lay my hands on it as soon as i can.

You should also decide whether you want "anglospelling" or our native spelling to the names.

Anything or any character that is going to appear on Civ IV is fine as long as there's no major difference between the local and international (Anglosaxon?) spelling. (As in Suleyman> Suleiman> Solomon> I prefer the first version in Turkish)

 

[HourlyDaily]

On the Celts; I admit my laziness at looking up great people - but we don't not have to put up with the Romanised versions of city names. Yes Persians can argue that about the Greeks naming their cities for posterity etc. Pinyin translations into English etc.

These all come from the Civ 3 forums:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=96814
and
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=27092
and
[URL="http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=33011]http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=33011[/URL]

Useful for the rest of the civs on this list. ( I think)

Also for the Irish Celts - can I put forward Brian Boruma as a leader? Someone else suggested it in another thread.

Iberian, Welsh and Breton Celts may also suggest leaders, cities and great people if they'd like.

 

[Kyriakos]

Hm, perhaps August Strindberg would be a more reasonable choice than Abba, for the swedish civ Also i think that Knut Hamsun was swedish too.

For a scandinavian civ you could also add Ibsen and Grieg

 

[dpaajones]

Civilization : British Empire

Leader : Queen-Empress Victoria (could use the same images as the English leader)

Capital : London

Flag : Union Jack

Unique Unit : Dreadnought-class warship (see Wiki article) to replace ironclad (does that exist in Civ4?)

Cities : London, Manchester, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Leeds, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Cardiff, Dublin, Calcutta, Delhi, Belfast, Gibraltar, Ottawa, Singapour, Hong Kong, Sydney, etc etc!

 

[Loppan Torkel]

Hm, perhaps August Strindberg would be a more reasonable choice than Abba, for the swedish civ Also i think that Knut Hamsun was swedish too.

For a scandinavian civ you could also add Ibsen and Grieg

Well I did include August Strindberg in the list, although I did forget about

Selma Lagerlöf (artist)
and there are probably other too that should be in, especially Danish and Norwegian people.

Edvard Grieg (artist),
Knut Hamsun (artist)
Henrik Ibsen (artist)
are all Norwegian and should be included.

Snorri Sturluson, Icelander (artist)
deserves a spot as well.

edit: @Tunch Khan - Alesund is mentioned two times in your list, and Malmo->Malmö and Gavle->Gävle if you want to use å, ä, ö like in the latter cities (just to be consistent). I'm not sure whether you want the modern or the old citynames either, since you've named it a "Viking" civ. Whichever Västra Aros becomes Västerås, Östra Aros -> Uppsala and Uppsala -> Gamla (old) Uppsala. It might get confusing if you use cities from different periods without being consistent with their names....

 

[CivDav]

They should put in some smaller civs. For example danish, israel, hungary....

 

[Kyriakos]

Why Hamsun as scientist? he was an author