MLDR006 Attack of the PC Crowd

[LKendter]

350 BC
Well I have some bad news for the team. We have a slight problem getting the iron. There is a sea square on the way there. We need Astronomy before we can get that iron on-line.

I see Egypt has a worker for sale. However, with the merge rule it really doesn't make sense to buy it.


330 BC
GAH - A worker was left on go to.


290 BC
(IT) We build the Great Library.


270 BC
(IT) We get the following techs: Polytheism, Monarchy, Construction, Monotheism, Feudalism, Engineering, and Republic.


250 BC
Well we won't get the rest of the island. Japan claimed a spot, and the Maya just landed a settler.
(IT) The Maya get $30.


230 BC
I just found a fortified curragh when there is still an island to explore.
(IT) Maya and Egypt sign a peace treaty.


210 BC
(IT) We get Chivalry for free.


190 BC
(IT) We get Invention for free.


170 BC
The last of Civ of Babylon has been officially met.

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Summary:
The Republic of America will be formed next turn. I would continue to push horses like crazy. I think we want to get a peace of Egypt.

Signed up:
Meldor
ThERat
LKendter
el_filet (currently playing)
Northern Pike (on deck?) (On skip until the 4th)

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/MLDR06-150BC.zip

 

[ThERat]

I just found a fortified curragh when there is still an island to explore

one my last turn, it arrived back from that southern island and I fortified it to maybe upgrade later on. It would take a long time to get it to the other island, I thought by that time we surely have explored it with our 2nd curragh or got WM already

GAH - A worker was left on go to.

oi, this is really bad, sorry for that, usually I never autosend in SG's

 

[meldor]

Once we are a Republic, we will want to hit Egypt sooner rather than later.

Signed up:
Meldor
ThERat
LKendter
el_filet (currently playing)
Northern Pike (on deck)

 

[el_filet]

i got it...

 

[meldor]

el_filet, any update?

 

[el_filet]

haven't played yet, went on a hospital visit this weekend. i knew i'll need some time but didn't realized i'm already late. will finish tonight.

 

[el_filet]

150 BC (0):
hire some scientists

IBT:
boot from hammurabi&smoke
republic formed

130 BC (1):
send settler toward island
switch to treb in corrupt seattle
run neg science for gunpowder (212g, -9gpt)

IBT:
washington: horse->horse
japan got gunpowder

IBT:
quakertown: horse->horse
babs start leo

90 BC (3):
sell romans republic for 46g&2gpt before somebody else does
found Baltimore S of hieraconpolis->harbor

IBT:
boston: rax->horse
buffalo: horse->spear
new orleans: warrior->worker
kyoto builds sun tzu
japan&maya got theology

IBT:
theo in
gunpowder too (mayas)
switch to PP, hope to get chemistry from GLib
washington: horse->duct
athens builds KT
mayas switch to sistine/leo
babs to leo
japs to sistine
we got salt next to atlanta, not online

IBT:
seattle: treb->court

30 BC (6):
boot to egypt, declare myself
capture avaris->temple
capture hiraconpolis->temple

IBT:
2 egypt archers in jungle
boston: horse->duct

IBT:
NY: rax->market
quakertown: horse->granary
buffalo: spear->harbor
greeks start leo

IBT:
exposed horse retreated
avaris queles&riots

30 AD (9):
meet arabs: iron&ivory, 12 cities, down gunpowder
switch avaris to settler (because it's big and has no duct, switch back if against the rules)

IBT:
booot from arabs
mayas have a lot of units near our E border
riot in NY, must have missed it


notes:
chicago&frisco could use court first
MM quakertown for granary
egypt pays worker for peace
education is known

 

[meldor]

Looks like the first war was quick and easy. The worker we got from Egypt must be moved to an Egyptian town and merged into the populus. It was OK to build a settler there as long as it isn't done with the intention of burning off all the citizens.

Signed up:
Meldor (On Deck)
ThERat
LKendter
el_filet
Northern Pike (Playing)

 

[Northern Pike]

Ugh. I hate to do this on what should be my first round, but I'm going to apply the principle that's it's better to ask for a skip immediately than after wasting three days. I'm in feast mode, I've got the flu, and I have no idea when I'd be able to get to this one. My apologies, gentlemen.

 

[meldor]

OK, I have it an will get it tomorrow

 

[LKendter]

The AI is SO predictable with city placement. The former Egyptian town of Hieraconpolis on the desert has salt.

I don't understand how the riot in New York happened since we don't have war weariness.

There is a blatant rules violation in the foreign workers are performing tasks. Read the below from the rules:
3)... While they are in "slave" status, they may not used to work, but they must be protected from harm. Slaves may neither be traded nor bought.

We need to decide what the goal in this war with Egypt is. We really put ourselves behind in buildings and real military by pursuing the early war.

Where do we want the FP? I don't want to wait much longer to start it.

 

[meldor]

Since it is in the notes and not in the turn log can we assume that we are still at war with Egypt? If so, we should most likely not stop until we have control of their iron. I can't see the map, but IIRC it is in the mountains near us. Can someone confirm this?

I can check when I get home after work.

 

[el_filet]

can we assume that we are still at war with Egypt?

we assume correctly
agree on pressing on, the iron isn't that close, but we can get it. more important is the incense imo.

I don't understand how the riot in New York happened since we don't have war weariness

neither do i, i usually scroll trough all cities. probably the late hour...

meldor appeared to have seen the slaves, so i didn't point it out after he mentioned it. the rules are hanging on the wall now, important stuff highlighted...

to FP: if we just want to build it, san francisco seems to be best. in case we want to move the palace, buffalo seems to be the best option.

 

[meldor]

50 AD (0)
I wake up a vet archer and kill a reg archer. I prefer to have the odds on my side and not let them attack. Three different Cvis know Education so the GLib is going to expire between turns. Even if we take all the Egyptian cities, it won't get us any iron. The Mayans took one source. There is a second iron up near Alexandria, but we would have to settle a city close to it to get it. We need iron to upgrade the horses. The nice thing is that there are only 3 iron resources on our landmass and we could control 2 of them and the one on the island to the south. That would set us up nicely until nationalism.
(I) We lose the archer. The Greeks take Elephatine, so we won't be getting the iron nor the incense. Education comes in and the GLib has expired.

70 AD (1)
The treb does nothing but our horses capture Asyut and a worker. The worker is merged into the city. We kill and archer and advance on Bybylos. I swap New York to a settler, we have to get that iron, which also means we need to get the Egyptian capital instead of the Greeks getting it.
(I) Not much. New York Settler->Market.

90 AD (2)
Two horses retreat and we only kill one spear at Byblos.
(I) Atlanta Courthouse->Market. Disease strikes our new city of Asyut.

110 AD (3)
Our horseman takes the last spear in Byblos on the first try and we take the city. The settler is rushing forward and our units need to take Cairo before the Greeks get it.
(I)New Orleans Worker->Harbor.

130 AD (4)
There is an Egytian Gally on the way to undefended Detriot. I swap it from a harbor to a pike.
(I)Washington Aqueduct->Market, Chicago Temple->Courthouse, San Fransico Temple->Market. Detriot Pike->Harbor. The Japanese complete Leo's, the Arabs complete Sistines.

150 AD (5)
MOving on Cairo.
(I) The Egyptians land an archer on the island. Washington Aqueduct->Market, Philidelphia Horse->Market.

170 AD (6)
Warrior comes out of New Orleans to kill the archer. We are going to have to get really luckly to get Cairo as the Greeks have a good stack next to it.
(I) The Greeks grab Cairo and our early hopes of getting iron. We will have to take it from the Mayans instead. Boston Aqueduct->Market.

190 AD (7)
(I) The Mayans have a big ol' stack of Java headed for the Greeks.Quakertown Granary->Market

230 AD (9)
(I)The Mayans declare on the Greeks. We might need to get in on this to get the iron. Buffalo Harbor->FP

250 AD (10)
Start gathering the horses so we can hit the Mayans and maybe get iron.

Signed up:
Meldor
ThERat (Playing)
LKendter (On Deck)
el_filet
Northern Pike (Hopefully felling better)

 

[ThERat]

how come you guys are all so stingy with screenies? anyway, got it

 

[ThERat]

save

Pre-turn
ok, we want to join the war, but our military isn't that great, start to shift units to border
almost every town employs a specialist, try and fiddle
trade education for 22g and incense from Greek, lower lux to 10%
shifted FP to Atlanta, we will get it in 27turns

IT Japan declares on Maya

1.260AD
discover an egyptian slave working, this is against the rules, join him in Atlanta
there are now 7 horses to attack Abydos next turn

2.270AD
Greece now has iron to sell, want to wait for PP to come in 3, can't trade salt for iron, they have it in their own land
saw quite a number of Maya units running around, maybe we better hold this war off for a while to let them beat each other
building muskets as well for better defense

IT exchange of units is nice, but we would just be fodder had we joined

3.280AD
nth much

IT PP is in, switch off research for now

4.290AD
trading time
Astronomy and 20g for PP, 3 contacts to Maya (since they all know astronomy and Japan knows them with PP contacts will be traded anyway)
Greece is broke, so sell Rome contact with Greek for 37g and 4gpt
sell PP to Japan for 499g and 4gpt
surely AI full steam for banking already, rather save the money for trade for now
rush harbor in Detroit so we get our iron

5.300AD
found Denver

IT markets in Washington and Boston are done, boost income to 104gpt

6.310AD

7.320AD
nada

8.330AD
Avaris finishes another settler, this is the best settler, worker pump since it grows so fast
banking is known now

IT Arabia declares on Maya

9.340AD nth
trade salt to Maya for Music theory, 18gpt and 99g
give Japan 120gpt and 800g for navigation
get banking WM and 140g for navigation, WM and horses from Arabia
finally banking, navigation to Maya for chemistry and 17gpt
PP and edu to Babs for 2 luxes
lower lux to 0% and we make 47gpt, tied for 20 turns now,
wasn't too happy to trade Maya salt, but this was the only way to get into the trading game.
3 Civs know metal

10.350AD
there is a settler in jungle to settle on the spot, income now 51gpt, we still pay a lot of unit support
we should try and get MT and then with Cav's try and beat Greeks, they seem to take a beating
FP is ready in 8

IMHO we should try and squeeze some more cities in and look out for the occasional razed spot

 

[meldor]

discover an egyptian slave working, this is against the rules, join him in Atlanta

I found one as well on my turn. I assumed that those were workers that were built out of an Egyptian city but I merged the one I found back into an Egyptian city.

If a worker that is built is going to work for free, don't build it. Slave labor is banned. Does anyone know how long that lasts? Avaris would make a good worker/settler pump and I suggest we use it for such, but the top population needs to be ours unless the Egyptian worker is going to be a paid for unit. Eygptian settlers are OK, as they retain their ethnicity when they settle.

 

[meldor]

Signed up:
Meldor
ThERat
LKendter (Playing)
el_filet (On Deck)
Northern Pike (Hopefully felling better)

 

[LKendter]

This is one the list for feast overload today.

 

[LKendter]

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/MLDR06-450AD.zip

I saw ThERat's suggestion for the new city. However, I will not place it. That city claims ZERO new squares. All of the squares will be claimed after border expansion. This is ICS play, and I refuse to play that type of game. I don't even like the placement of Denver as it gains very little tiles, but has bad cultural overlap with the Maya.

350 AD
I start pulling the horses back. Horses vs. muskets aren't winnable. No war will happen during my turns.


360 AD
(IT) The Arabs are building Magellan's.


380 AD
(IT) Babylon declares war on the Maya.


410 AD
(IT) Rome declares war on the Maya.


420 AD
(IT) Maya and Arabia sing a peace treaty.
We complete the FP. We gain about $30/turn from building it.


440 AD
(IT) Japan completes Copernicus.


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Summary:
This was a turn to increase revenue with markets and banks. My only military push was upgrading most of the horses to knights. At least we won't get overrun if Greece or the Maya attack. We need to get more then token warriors defending our cities.

Signed up:
Meldor
ThERat
LKendter
el_filet (currently playing)
Northern Pike (on deck)