meldor
Deity
No problem, BTW. I should have been paying better attention.ThERat said:
MLDR006 Attack of the PC Crowd
- Thread starter meldor
- Start date
el_filet
Prince
i got it...
need a break, MLDR005 took me forever, in spite of almost nothing happening (lot of MM), but think i'll play today
need a break, MLDR005 took me forever, in spite of almost nothing happening (lot of MM), but think i'll play today
el_filet
Prince
Violated variant rules, scroll down for replay. dotmap still valid
2150 BC (0):
will move the settler, this spot is bad at the moment (food)
down lux (doesn't change anything)
IBT:
washington: warrior->warrior
2110 BC (1):
poprush temple
IBT:
new york: temple->settler
IBT:
washington: warrior->settler
boston: worker->temple
1990 BC (4):
found philly next to cow->worker
IBT:
boot from mayas (scout)
1950 BC (5):
NY needs MP (luckily just got there
)
1910 BC (6):
cleo got math (in 14 for us, can't get it)
notice byblos 2N of northern gold mountain
IBT:
cleo gets 21g
now she can afford to start oracle
1870 BC (7):
meet greeks on N end (near alexandria): up BW&myst; 8 cities; 16g; spices
poprush settler in NY (don't think i ever did THAT before->40% opression)
IBT:
NY: settler->settler
IBT:
washington: settler->warrior
sparta completes colossus
1750 BC (10):
sent settler on their way
notes:
dotmap attached, loose build
settler 1 from NY to gold mountain
settler 2 from washington to dyes (dotmap: black jungle with yellow circle)
settler 3 from philly to horses in jungle (or from NY to NE horses, probably faster)
we should let washington grow a little now, worker can irrigate wheat after irr/road
deviated from "blue line", this seemed faster
planned road to lux/mine first tile with NY worker
dotmap:
yellow-> lux
blue-> strategic res
red-> should get dot
pink-> probably won't get dots
there are 3 horses, 1 dye (here still black), 1 silk (washington) & 2 spices
roster:
Meldor - up
ThERat (on deck)
LKendter
el_filet - just played
Northern Pike (On skip until the 4th)
will move the settler, this spot is bad at the moment (food)
down lux (doesn't change anything)
IBT:
washington: warrior->warrior
2110 BC (1):
poprush temple
IBT:
new york: temple->settler
IBT:
washington: warrior->settler
boston: worker->temple
1990 BC (4):
found philly next to cow->worker
IBT:
boot from mayas (scout)
1950 BC (5):
NY needs MP (luckily just got there
)1910 BC (6):
cleo got math (in 14 for us, can't get it)
notice byblos 2N of northern gold mountain
IBT:
cleo gets 21g
now she can afford to start oracle
1870 BC (7):
meet greeks on N end (near alexandria): up BW&myst; 8 cities; 16g; spices
poprush settler in NY (don't think i ever did THAT before->40% opression)
IBT:
NY: settler->settler
IBT:
washington: settler->warrior
sparta completes colossus
1750 BC (10):
sent settler on their way
notes:
dotmap attached, loose build
settler 1 from NY to gold mountain
settler 2 from washington to dyes (dotmap: black jungle with yellow circle)
settler 3 from philly to horses in jungle (or from NY to NE horses, probably faster)
we should let washington grow a little now, worker can irrigate wheat after irr/road
deviated from "blue line", this seemed faster
planned road to lux/mine first tile with NY worker
dotmap:
yellow-> lux
blue-> strategic res
red-> should get dot
pink-> probably won't get dots
there are 3 horses, 1 dye (here still black), 1 silk (washington) & 2 spices
roster:
Meldor - up
ThERat (on deck)
LKendter
el_filet - just played
Northern Pike (On skip until the 4th)
Attachments
meldor
Deity
el_filet, I am afraid you have to replay your turns...
This is a clear violation of the rules.
el_filet
Prince
my first thought about variant rules was they won't apply for a while...at least until there are wars. certainly wrong, will replay soon
meldor
Deity
It is alright, we get into those habits of what we know is good play and do it without thinking.
el_filet
Prince
2150 BC (0):
will move the settler, this spot is bad at the moment (food)
down lux (ups, it does change our gpt from -1 to 0)
IBT:
washington: warrior->warrior
2040 BC (3):
up lux
IBT:
washington: warrior->settler
disease in NY
boston: worker->temple
1990 BC (4):
found Philadelphia->worker
max science, lux to 0
IBT:
bott from maya
1910 BC (6):
egypt got math
IBT:
cleo starts oracle
1870 BC (7):
meet greeks
IBT:
NY: temple->settler
IBT:
washington: settler->warrior
sparta completes colossus
notes:
dotmap attached, loose build
settler 1 from NY to gold mountain (now settler 2, no poprush; we may want ot grab mountain site first)
settler 2 from washington to dyes (dotmap: black jungle with yellow circle)
settler 3 from phylli to horses in jungle (or from NY to NE, probably faster)
we should let washington grow a little now, worker can irrigate wheat after irr/road
deviated from "blue line", this seemed faster
planned road to lux/mine first tile with NY worker
dotmap:
yellow-> lux
blue-> strategic res
red-> should get dot
pink-> probably won't get dots
roster:
Meldor - up
ThERat (on deck)
LKendter
el_filet - just played
Northern Pike (On skip until the 4th)
will move the settler, this spot is bad at the moment (food)
down lux (ups, it does change our gpt from -1 to 0)
IBT:
washington: warrior->warrior
2040 BC (3):
up lux
IBT:
washington: warrior->settler
disease in NY
boston: worker->temple
1990 BC (4):
found Philadelphia->worker
max science, lux to 0
IBT:
bott from maya
1910 BC (6):
egypt got math
IBT:
cleo starts oracle
1870 BC (7):
meet greeks
IBT:
NY: temple->settler
IBT:
washington: settler->warrior
sparta completes colossus
notes:
dotmap attached, loose build
settler 1 from NY to gold mountain (now settler 2, no poprush; we may want ot grab mountain site first)
settler 2 from washington to dyes (dotmap: black jungle with yellow circle)
settler 3 from phylli to horses in jungle (or from NY to NE, probably faster)
we should let washington grow a little now, worker can irrigate wheat after irr/road
deviated from "blue line", this seemed faster
planned road to lux/mine first tile with NY worker
dotmap:
yellow-> lux
blue-> strategic res
red-> should get dot
pink-> probably won't get dots
roster:
Meldor - up
ThERat (on deck)
LKendter
el_filet - just played
Northern Pike (On skip until the 4th)
lurker's comment: I dont think anyone answered this definately, so just for clarity.. Cruise Missiles will only hit units in towns, not pop or buildings (as long as there are units there)
meldor
Deity
I see it and it is in the queue.
As for the cruise missles, if there is no chance of hitting a building or killing pop, it is OK, if there is a chance of doing so, then it is not.
As for the cruise missles, if there is no chance of hitting a building or killing pop, it is OK, if there is a chance of doing so, then it is not.
meldor
Deity
1750 BC (0)
Not much to change. I think the first settler should go for the hills and a chance at iron, the next one can then go for the horses.
(I)
1725 BC (1)
(I) Washington Warrior->Settler, Philadelphia worker->settler. The Greeks start ToA and we get a much need border expnasion at New York.
1675 BC (3)
I have to up lux tax to 20% for Boston.
1625 BC (5)
Disband the scout in the Mayan area. It has done what it can.
(I)Disease Strikes New York. New York Settler->Settler
1600 BC (6)
(I) New York is hit again. The Mayans complete the Pyramids, The Romans the Oracle.
1575 BC (7)
Atlanta is built to claim the hills and our chance at Iron.
(I) Washington Settler->Rax.
1500 BC (10)
One settler is on the way to settle the horses, The other is on the way to settle the dyes. The next settler should go for either the spices or start back filling. (Maybe the horse could wait and the horse settler goes for the spices??).
roster:
Meldor
ThERat (Playing)
LKendter (On Deck)
el_filet
Northern Pike (On skip until the 4th)
Not much to change. I think the first settler should go for the hills and a chance at iron, the next one can then go for the horses.
(I)
1725 BC (1)
(I) Washington Warrior->Settler, Philadelphia worker->settler. The Greeks start ToA and we get a much need border expnasion at New York.
1675 BC (3)
I have to up lux tax to 20% for Boston.
1625 BC (5)
Disband the scout in the Mayan area. It has done what it can.
(I)Disease Strikes New York. New York Settler->Settler
1600 BC (6)
(I) New York is hit again. The Mayans complete the Pyramids, The Romans the Oracle.
1575 BC (7)
Atlanta is built to claim the hills and our chance at Iron.
(I) Washington Settler->Rax.
1500 BC (10)
One settler is on the way to settle the horses, The other is on the way to settle the dyes. The next settler should go for either the spices or start back filling. (Maybe the horse could wait and the horse settler goes for the spices??).
roster:
Meldor
ThERat (Playing)
LKendter (On Deck)
el_filet
Northern Pike (On skip until the 4th)
el_filet
Prince
in case two horses are already claimed, i'd go for the horse. but they're probably still aviable, so i vote for spices. which horses do you want to claim? the ones in the jungle seem to be ours anyway, but the ones NE would be nice, we should try to get them (can't look at the save, may be gone already).
in case we're able to get the horses NE: iirc the dot is on fresh water, if not we need to do something about it (city on river hill for example).
in case we're able to get the horses NE: iirc the dot is on fresh water, if not we need to do something about it (city on river hill for example).
ThERat
Deity
got it, it's a little late here, maybe I can still play and then post it tomorrow morning...
ThERat
Deity
save
Pre-turn
hmm writing is known and we research at max?
go for min research and get money. writing can almost be gotten
there is a lot of land for us, try go north claim horses and get spices
2.1450BC
can now trade for writing
get it from Maya for 12gpt and 55g
trade writing to Greece for BW and 96g, all have IW as well
go for min on Lit
7.1325BC
we get 2 more settlers, will try and claim dyes and other horse before starting to backfill
Boston finished temple, set on palace for GLib prebuild
can spot another landmass east of Greece
IT curragh survives mini suicide run
9.1275BC
AI just learned a lot of new techs,
found Chicago near spices
10. 1250BC
Seattle near horses founded
2 settlers are on the way to claim spot, 1 near dyes, 1 to the horses north, would settle as indicated in the dotmap
then we can slowly backfill
Boston will get the cow next turn, I don't know whether our GLiB run will be of success, but we are in a tech hole
curragh will hopefully find new Civ's soon
Pre-turn
hmm writing is known and we research at max?
go for min research and get money. writing can almost be gotten
there is a lot of land for us, try go north claim horses and get spices
2.1450BC
can now trade for writing
get it from Maya for 12gpt and 55g
trade writing to Greece for BW and 96g, all have IW as well
go for min on Lit
7.1325BC
we get 2 more settlers, will try and claim dyes and other horse before starting to backfill
Boston finished temple, set on palace for GLib prebuild
can spot another landmass east of Greece
IT curragh survives mini suicide run
9.1275BC
AI just learned a lot of new techs,
found Chicago near spices
10. 1250BC
Seattle near horses founded
2 settlers are on the way to claim spot, 1 near dyes, 1 to the horses north, would settle as indicated in the dotmap
then we can slowly backfill
Boston will get the cow next turn, I don't know whether our GLiB run will be of success, but we are in a tech hole
curragh will hopefully find new Civ's soon
el_filet
Prince
GLib is always good, but with our variant rules an early war might be better. we're not strong enought to do both. however, we'll need to do some backfilling first, early culture is needed too. i'd say we go either culture or war.
with horses taking long to connect, i vote culture&GLib against my initial feeling, accompanied by backfilling and a big worker force to bring luxes online.
with horses taking long to connect, i vote culture&GLib against my initial feeling, accompanied by backfilling and a big worker force to bring luxes online.
meldor
Deity
I think we can do both. The GLib should only take one city away. New York can switch to building workers, both to work and to merge into the other cities to get them up to size 12 ASAP (for the wonder city this is doublely important). The other cities can build temple->rax->archers and then we can hit them when we have 10+ archers. Look to take 2-3 towns and get tech or more cities. I would like to get embassies going with Maya and Greece to give it them in it as well, if we can. I would liek all the close AIs burning their GAs in despotism.
roster:
Meldor
ThERat
LKendter (Playing)
el_filet (On Deck)
Northern Pike (On skip until the 4th)
roster:
Meldor
ThERat
LKendter (Playing)
el_filet (On Deck)
Northern Pike (On skip until the 4th)
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1250 BC
Atlanta was placed close to Egyptian cities. I swap to a temple. Early in the game is the biggest chance of losing it to a flip.
IMO we can't wait 43 more turns for literature. When Boston gains more shields the pre-build won't take 43 turns. I up the science rate to 50%. When the GPT frees up we can maintain this pace without losing money.
(IT) The Cleo lady rips us of $26.
Greece completes the Temple of Artimis.
The Maya cascade and complete the Great Wall.
The cascade continues with Japan building Zeus. I am glad they are on the other continent.
The Arabs complete Hanging Gardens.
This is the biggest cascade I have ever seen.
1225 BC
(IT) I watch Egypt and Greece fighting each other.
I hope they both burn their GA in despotism. Another advantage for us is that we may gain a more in the land grab while they concentrate on troops.
Egypt completes the Mausoleum of Mausollos.
1175 BC
We cut it a bit close for the dyes!
We build San Francisco right in front of Egypt.
Miami is build to claim more horses. It will gain whales and fish after border expansion.
1100 BC
Quakertown is formed to claim the nearby hills.
We hit an important milestone in that we already have the right to build the FP.
1050 BC
(IT) Now the Maya rip us off $22.
==========================
Summary:
This was just some more exploring and expansion.
We are still really short of workers.
After the recent Egyptian city placement the
is a must. That is far too dangerous to us if it builds a temple. The ONLY reason I can see to claim that horrid spot is a future resource (oil, saltpeter and rubber are all possible).
I would let Philadelphia concentrate on getting token warriors into our cities. After that it needs to build a barracks and real military.
The settler is heading toward the red dot. We don't want another awkward AI city behind our lines.
Signed up:
Meldor (on deck)
ThERat
LKendter
el_filet (currently playing)
Northern Pike (On skip until the 4th)
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/MLDR06-1000BC.zip
Boston and how it will be optimal at size 6. The mountain must be mined first for maximum shields.
Atlanta was placed close to Egyptian cities. I swap to a temple. Early in the game is the biggest chance of losing it to a flip.
IMO we can't wait 43 more turns for literature. When Boston gains more shields the pre-build won't take 43 turns. I up the science rate to 50%. When the GPT frees up we can maintain this pace without losing money.
(IT) The Cleo lady rips us of $26.
Greece completes the Temple of Artimis.
The Maya cascade and complete the Great Wall.
The cascade continues with Japan building Zeus. I am glad they are on the other continent.
The Arabs complete Hanging Gardens.
This is the biggest cascade I have ever seen.
1225 BC
(IT) I watch Egypt and Greece fighting each other.
I hope they both burn their GA in despotism. Another advantage for us is that we may gain a more in the land grab while they concentrate on troops.
Egypt completes the Mausoleum of Mausollos.
1175 BC
We cut it a bit close for the dyes!
We build San Francisco right in front of Egypt.
Miami is build to claim more horses. It will gain whales and fish after border expansion.
1100 BC
Quakertown is formed to claim the nearby hills.
We hit an important milestone in that we already have the right to build the FP.
1050 BC
(IT) Now the Maya rip us off $22.
==========================
Summary:
This was just some more exploring and expansion.
We are still really short of workers.
After the recent Egyptian city placement the
is a must. That is far too dangerous to us if it builds a temple. The ONLY reason I can see to claim that horrid spot is a future resource (oil, saltpeter and rubber are all possible).
I would let Philadelphia concentrate on getting token warriors into our cities. After that it needs to build a barracks and real military.
The settler is heading toward the red dot. We don't want another awkward AI city behind our lines.
Signed up:
Meldor (on deck)
ThERat
LKendter
el_filet (currently playing)
Northern Pike (On skip until the 4th)
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/MLDR06-1000BC.zip
Boston and how it will be optimal at size 6. The mountain must be mined first for maximum shields.
el_filet
Prince
playing another game right now, this one will have to wait until tomorrow. got it.
san francisco seems to be a nice spot for FP.
san francisco seems to be a nice spot for FP.
ThERat
Deity
great for us, maybe they settled in the desert, because they got no other spot after we stole dyes in front of their nose.
we are very lucky that egypt and greece burn their GA on a war.
