Hi guys, I've been following this thread with some interest, especially around the topic of changing native civs. Indulge me for a moment while I make some observations and then some suggestions. I am by no means criticizing the idea to change civs, and my thoughts are just those, thoughts, so please feel free to do with them as you wish. I assume the desire to replace the Comanche, Navajo and Crow is based on the cluster of 'somewhat similar' tribes located in the same area? If so, then I assume the new civs are to be created in mind for a geographically/historically accurate map? With this being said, I think that area is probably a bit crowded and it would be good to spread the civs out a bit. The major problem we on the RaR team encountered with additional civs was finding suitable leaderheads that were high quality enough for the game and at least historically plausible representations of each native civ. We also had to ensure the spread of civs in North/Central/South America was balanced enough so's not to negatively compromise the game. I've looked at the suggestions of Haida, Ohlone and Timucua and I've taken the liberty of making some suggestions as none of the leaderheads for the Crow, Navajo or Comanche civs would fit the new suggested civs without extensive work done to alter their physical appearances. Haida Pro's Great idea for a civ, and it would be placed in a largely uninhabited region of the map. Con's They have a very distinctive look. I found two possible leaderheads but I'm am not sure if they are static or not. Other than this there is nothing out there I could find that is even remotely close. Ohlone Pro's There is a leadhead that could probably work for this tribe. Placed in an uninhabited part of the map. Con's Rather a small tribe, not that well known in comparison to surrounding tribes. Timucua Pro's Would be great to have a Florida tribe in the mix. Area is currently empty on the map. Con's Again, only one leaderhead that would be anywhere near close to a physical representation, but it might need some work. Might I suggest that if the one of these tribes is not an option, then perhaps the Cree might be considered using the leaderhead currently used by the Navajo. Obviously the background would need changing as would some of the clothing but it could work and the Cree would cover a large area not yet inhabited. Again, let me stress I'm not trying to jump all over someone's project, or thrust my opinions on anyone. I think it's great that new civs are being considered, I am just putting out some thoughts for consideration.