[mod] TOTAL REALISM 2.0

[Anaztazioch]

@ Ub3r-L33ch

Overclocking changes only clock speed. That does not mean it makes processor works as it is clocked.

Simmilar to Graphic cards. Overclocking their Core will not haste games that use lots of pixel shading. For instance, my x850xt at 520 has Oblivion running at Shaegorath shrine 18 fps (1280x1024, bloom, no V-sync, Max shadows, no Anizo, no Pixel shading, No plug-ins, no addonational textures, 1.1 patch). overclocked to 624 (max in Catalyst Control Center) increases fps by 1.

On Half-Life 2 such overdrive increases fps by 20... On higher GFX setting of course.

But i know dual clocks from Laptops only, so... They suck in Laptops... 3,2ghz Intel with G-force 7600 has problems with NFS: Most Wanted... cant be GFX card, as changing GFX settings doesnt change by more than 3 fps.

 

[Ub3r-L33ch]

@ Ub3r-L33ch

Overclocking changes only clock speed. That does not mean it makes processor works as it is clocked.

Simmilar to Graphic cards. Overclocking their Core will not haste games that use lots of pixel shading. For instance, my x850xt at 520 has Oblivion running at Shaegorath shrine 18 fps (1280x1024, bloom, no V-sync, Max shadows, no Anizo, no Pixel shading, No plug-ins, no addonational textures, 1.1 patch). overclocked to 624 (max in Catalyst Control Center) increases fps by 1.

On Half-Life 2 such overdrive increases fps by 20... On higher GFX setting of course.

But i know dual clocks from Laptops only, so... They suck in Laptops... 3,2ghz Intel with G-force 7600 has problems with NFS: Most Wanted... cant be GFX card, as changing GFX settings doesnt change by more than 3 fps.

What do you mean changing the clock speed does not make it perform as it is clocked? Download a couple benchmark programs and test it at stock speeds and then overclock it and see what happens. (examples: SiSoft Sandra, Super PI, or any 3dMark benchmark). CPU, GPU, and RAM are the main things that can be overclocked and you WILL benefit from it most of the time, sometimes its not enough to be noticeable. With more extreme uses of cooling such as water cooling, water chilling, phase change, liquid nitrogen, and dry ice can give you alot more head room.

It depends if the game is CPU or GPU limited, common sense kinda. A game like Civilization isnt going to require much GPU power.

I may have misunderstood you but if you are saying that overclocking does not help game speed you are wrong.

If you still dont believe me try telling a few people at these forums that OCing doesnt do anything:
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/index.php
http://www.hardocp.com/
http://www.ocforums.com/index.php?s=

See what they have to say about it.

Anyways I'm not here to educate everyone on OCing, this is going wayyy OT. I've been into computers since I was 10 and a hardware enthusiast for 5 or 6 years, I dont mean to sound cocky, but I know what I'm talking about, not that I'm a genius or anything but I've been in the field for quite some time.

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To get back on topic:
So far I really enjoy the TR mod. So far I havent sacked another city yet to see if it lets me choose raze or keep it but that is a pretty annoying bug. Is it always like this or does it just happen sometimes?

I guess the slowness is just because the custom game I chose is so huge, vanilla Civ seems to run fine with it but I guess thats the price you pay for a custom game, its worth it.

Good job on the mod guys, keep up the good work.

 

[Anaztazioch]

Hmm

Try and remember what city size was before you capture it, and most importantly, are you using "no city razing".

And really Highlands and Huge map is more like real time game lol. 10 years in middle ages are actually 10 years

Civilization IV requires Memory more than CPU. I usually have "ran out of memory" or "memory allocation failed, becouse its allready in use" when playing Huge Highlands with seas and 24 civs + raging barbs.

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If you still dont believe me try telling a few people at these forums that OCing doesnt do anything

It is not AS effective as it would seem. Super pi is not everything Games use.

My AMD for instance in not overclock friendly :/ Temperatures goes up too fast, so i dont do it here.

CPU, GPU, and RAM are the main things that can be overclocked and you WILL benefit from it most of the time, sometimes its not enough to be noticeable

You will allways benifit, but at cost of stability or temperature. You must have missed something, or my bad english hits it apogeum :/

 

[Ub3r-L33ch]

Hmm

Try and remember what city size was before you capture it, and most importantly, are you using "no city razing".

And really Highlands and Huge map is more like real time game lol. 10 years in middle ages are actually 10 years

Civilization IV requires Memory more than CPU. I usually have "ran out of memory" or "memory allocation failed, becouse its allready in use" when playing Huge Highlands with seas and 24 civs + raging barbs.

I dont remember the city size, I know the culture boundaries were at the smallest. I dont believe I'm using "no city razing", where is that option at?

Also last night I took a few other cities and was given the option to raze or keep them, so that first one had a glitch of some kind I guess.

I havent had any memory problems yet, no problems whatsoever except that the loading is longer than I expected, which really isnt a problem, just a side effect of a mod that changes alot. I do have 2GB of RAM though, so maybe that helps. I wonder how much RAM Civ4 will use up?

Next time you get memory problems bring up task manager and see how much is being allocated to the game.

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It is not AS effective as it would seem. Super pi is not everything Games use.

My AMD for instance in not overclock friendly :/ Temperatures goes up too fast, so i dont do it here.

You will allways benifit, but at cost of stability or temperature. You must have missed something, or my bad english hits it apogeum :/

Alot of the benchmark tests will not show you real world results that is true, but if you see an improvement in the test then the hardware is operating faster. I promise you a 2.4ghz CPU clocked to 2.6ghz is just as effective as a stock 2.6ghz CPU, dont take my word for it, ask around on some of those forums.

Your processor probably just needs better cooling. You could buy a high end heatsink and that would help out alot. Even if you arent overclocking it keeping the temperatures down will extend the life of the hardware.

You wont have stability problems as long as you have proper cooling. There are plenty of tests out there to help you determine if the system is stable or not. You should always make sure your overclock is stable before you use the computer for anything serious.

 

[Anaztazioch]

Next time you get memory problems bring up task manager and see how much is being allocated to the game.

Page is used MAX, i dont even see the line indocating it. PF Usage says 3500mb, that what i set it at. Physical allways get cleared nearelly instantly when i CTRL+ALT+DEL.

I wonder how much RAM Civ4 will use up?

Civ4 uses no more than 1024mb, but Total Realism needs at least 2gb to play WorldMap.

And i should have posted this earlier, but got used to this page
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=198161

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1 got 1GB in 1"card".

Your processor probably just needs better cooling. You could buy a high end heatsink and that would help out alot. Even if you arent overclocking it keeping the temperatures down will extend the life of the hardware.

Normally my CPU doesnt go over 50 Celcious. Usually its 43, 50 when its in full use (Civilization NEVER have put it to full use). Only over clocking rizes temperature way too high. Retail, mainboard, or technology of AMD. Can nvidia mainboard chipset be fault ?

BTW. You think that AMD with ATI can over run Intel and G-Force ? I mean in technology, so that AMD 5ghz processors will be faster than intel 5ghz ? And Radeon cards with exect specifics will over run G-Force ?

 

[Ub3r-L33ch]

Well this really sucks. I started a new game and I took 3 barbarian villages and it wouldnt let me choose anything it just kept them. Two other ones that I took it didnt ask me anything and it just destroyed them.

What is up with this? Is this a glitch or was something added to the mod that does this kind of stuff?

 

[Anaztazioch]

Cities with populaion 1 and sometimes 2 gets instantly razed. It game cide not TR. Butn fact that you are not asked is a problem. I have it too, but over time i got used to it . It was reported often and if it can be fixed it will be.

 

[jpace1976]

I just downloaded this mod and enjoy it so far, I just have a question, what are the small icons that are selectable on the boarder of the UI. Some look like dot patterns, there are red and green flags and crosses. I looked throught the patch notes and can't find anything about them.

 

[Anaztazioch]

Check Total Realism FAQ.

They are used to group stacked units, by strength, type, wounded, healthy etc.

 

[Kissa]

Is it possible to give us a non- .EXE version of the Mod ?
Like .zip or .Rar or else ?
Thinx.

 

[Anaztazioch]

@ kissa

Full (max) compretion. Total Realism.rar has 267mb size, while exe has 200mb.
Next release will propabilly be even bigger.

 

[Kissa]

Yes, but think to the Mac, please...

 

[Mexico]

Yes, but think to the Mac, please...

oh mac....i forget to ask this: are you able to play other mod with custom DLL ?
because this DLL is compiled for windows and i don't think if this will work under MacOS (try to run ie betterAI dll - if this will working, i promise to prepare zip/rar version for mac users)

 

[Sam_Yeager]

oh mac....i forget to ask this: are you able to play other mod with custom DLL ?

Mac users can't use custom DLLs.

EDIT: The Mac equivalent of the SDK has not been released by the firm that ported Civ4 to the Mac. Mac users can really only play mods which rely on on python and XML changes.

 

[Kissa]

Mexico,
I try "better AI", i have no error message, but i don't know if it run ?
Is there a way to check if it run ?

 

[Sam_Yeager]

Mexico,
I try "better AI", i have no error message, but i don't know if it run ?
Is there a way to check if it run ?

See my post just above if you're running a Mac. Otherwise see this post.

 

[Kissa]

Sam_Yeager,
I'll try to see if "better AI" appears in the "breakdown score".

 

[eric12345cn]

I played the game, it is good. I choose to conquer alll the civs, but every time came to year 2169, it jumped out to the windows, what can i do to solve the problem?

 

[Anaztazioch]

I never reacehd 2169ad. Usually achive victory about 1970 or 2010, or loose earlier... or use WB, but I use WB mostly to learn some new features and mostly for testing.

 

[mala-zaba]

Hi all,

The latest version works in french? Because on my system, when I put civ4 in french language, I lost the text

Tanks and sorry for my poor english.