Modern day liberalism boils down to the tolerance of oppression.

[classical_hero]

It's really gotten that simple.

 

[gay_Aleks]

Finally, at last! Politics has been reduced to saying one-liners followed by "it's that simple".

It really is that simple, though.

 

[bhsup]

Well that's just a variation on the great Bubba's line, "Keep It Simple, Stupid." KISS. Leave it to bubba to make a political statement that involves physical contact...

 

[Borachio]

Why are liberals and conservatives coming out in boils all of a sudden? Has someone poisoned the water?

 

[useless]

Translation: "You're intolerant of my intolerance!"

 

[gay_Aleks]

Why are liberals and conservatives coming out in boils all of a sudden? Has someone poisoned the water?

Maybe they want some milk, but the Democrats have the milk and the Republicans have the sugar, while the Teaheadists have ran away with the cocoa..

 

[Kaitzilla]

Rush Limbaugh go!
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/08/01/liberalism_is_an_imposition

RUSH: I share with you the sense of great unease about it, about the country, about where it's going, how it's happened. Everything seems upside down, and there doesn't seem to be any push-back to it. In fact, you know, outside of you and others like you and the way you think, there doesn't even seem to be that many people upset about it. They're just adapting to it. Now, I've had to struggle myself to try to explain this to myself and to others. And you talk about the hatred for me out there. I'll tell you why I think it is. It isn't personal. None of these people know me.

There is and has been in this country, longer than you and I have been alive, there has been a battle for who is going to define this country. There are people -- and I've shared with you. Intellectually, the way I was raised, what I was taught about this country, I literally -- this is a conflict, because intellectually I understand it, but in my heart I don't understand how anybody could hate this country today. I don't understand it. But they do. So I've given up trying to figure out what their problems are. To understand where the country is today, you have to understand that the left is not just in opposition.

They're not just opponents. The left has designs on the country. They don't believe in the Constitution, as founded, the country as founded. They don't believe in the concept of individual liberty. They don't trust it. They don't trust that people will do what they want them to do if left alone. So they must control everything or as much of everyone's life as possible in order to create what they want. That leads to an all-out assault on individual liberty and freedom. And that's the battle that has been waging in this country since the day it was founded. There are some people threatened by it. There are some people opposed to it.

Even the rank-and-file left, I mean, the people you've never met, just the average, ordinary, nonelected, nonleadership, these people that post comments in an anonymous fashion on all these websites, they simply -- it's hard to explain. They do not trust that you're going to be behave the way they want you to, and they're not content to let you behave the way you want. You must conform to the way they want you to live. You must conform to the way they want you to believe.

Now, you and I are not like that. You and I are laissez-faire. We're content for everybody to live the life they want to live and we'll enter the arena of ideas and we'll try to persuade them to join us in the way we view life and the way we view liberty and freedom. But it's not in our Constitution to force anybody to do anything, to punish anybody for the way they believe, think or live, but it's not that way with them. Any person or thing that they perceive as a threat, and they perceive me this way, must be destroyed, my reputation, character, must be impugned, credibility. It's all about the ideology.

This is why I have this fervent desire that I could make everybody in this country understand what liberalism really is. It is not a way of thinking. Liberalism is the denial of liberty. It's the denial of freedom. It is the imposition of restrictions on people. And they are not content to simply live the way they want to. You must do everything they want, think the way they think, and if you don't, you're either gonna be punished or they'll try to relegate you to insignificance because you represent an enemy, you represent a threat to them. And that's what I am. It really isn't personal, as I say, because they don't know me.

They don't want competition for your mind. They don't want anybody convincing you that they're wrong. They don't want anybody telling you who they really are. And when anybody pops up that effectively does that, here come the long knives. Anyway, that's a short version of it. It's much more complicated and complex than that, but that's best I can do in a short period of time, in a nutshell. I appreciate the call. I really do. This man's call, folks, is exactly what I was talking about in the first hour when I talked about the intimate connection that can be made with an audience on radio. Everything he said is what's beautiful about radio and what's possible with it, and I appreciate the call. I thank you very much.

 

[gay_Aleks]

Apparently, the Republicans also took Rush Limbaugh's medicine. No wonder the left seems so quirky.

 

[classical_hero]

Translation: "You're intolerant of my intolerance!"

I think you want the other thread.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Which liberalism are we talking about?

 

[bhsup]

The pinko kind

 

[gay_Aleks]

So, not the one which is spread by short men on huge horses dying in Russia?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

The pinko kind

If this is about ponies again, I'll be quite irate

 

[bhsup]

No, just good old fashioned pinko leftism.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

No, just good old fashioned pinko leftism.

Always confused about the flavours of leftism.

Am I one? I need to know if I'm tolerating oppression.

 

[gay_Aleks]

Always confused about the flavours of leftism.

Am I one? I need to know if I'm tolerating oppression.

It's maybe peppermint leftism, or either these pink gums some old ladies give out at Halloween.

 

[Quackers]

Limbaugh hits the nail on the head with that one Kait.

The left love to claim how open and tolerant they are of dissenting opinions but just try and state your opinions and you get shut-down.

 

[jackelgull]

First of all, this is such a loaded topic, considering that the definition of a conservative and liberal is difficult to define. Going by their roots and suffixes, conservative literally means to completely protect, while liber means free. So conservatives want to protect the traditions and values of society while liberals want to free society from tradition. At least purely judging from their roots and suffixes.

If that is the case, then why are communists liberals too? I mean at first they were, with the whole down with the czar thing, but after several decades, the communist revolution lost its novelty. During its reign, the Soviet Union clamped down on change as hard as it could with brutal efficiency. Doesn't that make it more conservative then America? I mean it took us a hundred years from the thirteenth amendment to the Civil Rights Act, but we got there. In short, left does not equal liberal, they are different terms.

And as for tolerance of oppression, that s kind of harder to level at liberalism than denial of oppression is for conservatism.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Whoooo ... "The Left".

Spooky.

 

[gay_Aleks]

Whoooo ... "The Left".

Spooky.

The Left stole 45 years of my country, so I believe they could do miracles with Britain and U of S in A.