Zodalore Espionnage Report
There's no real reason behind my post - just wanna share. Of note is a bug with spying on the scions, some critics of Ji and Pagaldee's AI and some suggestions on relations between Outhe and Zodalore.
Opera if you prefer I can move this post to it's own thread.
Game:
Zodalore (Deceptive, Philosophical, minor)
Prince
Creation, standard size, quick
End of winter, Living world, all unique features, flavour start
AI:
Cith Mor
Ji
Outhe
Weevil & co.
Pagaldee
Gauthi
The beginning
Long story short: took Cith Mor capital, had a nice area around me so: REXed and took all the unclaimed territory - had to claim some from the animal but it wasn't that bad. Neighbours were Ji and Pagaldee. Lots of mana, lots of guild founded by me (GPP polution I don't mind!), engineers have been popping ressources (and liches and minotaurs) everywhere they could.
About guilds (a picture is worth a thousand words):
No war yet. Weevil vassalized Pagaldee without even fighting. Weevil and Ji are dying to get at each other's throat but They would have to go through me and they won't declare on me yet. (see the relation screen later on.)
Turn 233 report
Met everyone. For the last couple of turns I've been buying maps and boosting and spreading EP to have a good look at everyone. I will post a shot of their capitals and their units page. Note that I see only units in or around their cities but it gives a good idea of what they built.
If I continue this game I will aim at vassalizing Outhe and claiming a tower victory.
Here's the map:
I'm in the south-center. Ji is west of me with Hyborem far away behind her. Outhe is stuck on the north east peninsula, Gauthi has an island to himself, Pagalsee is in the middle with two lousy cities. Weevil is north-center.
Everyone is on the overcouncil but Outhe and Zodalore (me). They probably spend a lot of time complaining about me.
Everyone lost their minor traits but Outhe. Cith Mor lost all traits.
I didn't found the cult of the dragon, it was in Acheron's city I took.
Outhe is the only good, I'm the only neutral - everyone else is EVIL. Strangely this game seems like a lovefest. I'm playing peacefully by design and the AI is doing it by "choice". Even though Ji hates Weevil (-11) Pagaldee (-6) and me (-4) she stays at peace with everyone. -5/-6 in between Outhe and Weevil and no declaration of war.
Is there a bug with the display of religions in the victory screen? I see Ashen either at 0 or 38% depedeing where I look.
Spoiler for diplomatic screens:
Cith Mor
Typical early adventurer in your face. He was really close to my capital which makes for the best second city. Nough said.
Outhe (still Phi/Sci/min)
She's stuck on her peninsula with loads and loads of animals. Had a look at world builder it's really bad. I've been helping her survive by gifting her techs now and then and a +3 gold per turn. At first she didn't like me at all but this has helped a bit. It took an eternity and loads of buttering up to bring her to please. Still she's the only one who won't sell me her world map. I find it fun that Zodalore and her don't get along well. I wouldn't mind a bit of backstory (Zodalore abusing Outhe's goodwill and deceiving her or something) Outhe -2 to zodalore (you sly scoundrel!) and Zodalore -1 to Outhe (stop berating me!)
I think the Grigori's AI is tweaked to emphasize GPP. It seems that way from her civics choise. Well this make no sense in that situation. She probably sends her adventurers one by one getting them killed and getting her nowhere. She should at least see the scale of the problem and support her adventurers with loads of troops.
Can't really comment on her performance, any civ would be stunted there. This should be fixed. A human player will spam hunter and slowly grind himself a place - the AI should be trying that too - at the least, there are other solutions to this problem.
Spoiler for bigger screens:
Weevil & co. (Agr, Cha, Rai, Foo)
The last civ I met. Doing very fine for a foolish leader. I think he rexed until Acheron stopped him. He vassalized Pagaldee and is getting all her mana plus one Ice mana from Ji - this is broken, Ji is furious toward him but is providing him mana.
He's definitely doing very fine. Should be more aggressive though.
Ji (Spi, Arc, Bar)
Doing fine but out of character. I thought she was second until I met Weevil. I've seen no adepts or mages, from what I can see I think she has knowledge of the Ether but stopped there on the arcane path. She's putting her spiritual trait to good use though. Infernal pact, Armageddon and hell terrain is not fit for her. Lots or wonder.
Pagaldee (Phi, Spi)
Oh Pagaldee! Lame lame lame. She had no animal problem at all and has been very very shy settlement-wise. She has at least one beautif city to her east she never settled. She stopped at two cities and have been sitting on the wharf signing sad songs forever. She did found both FOL and OO. MAJOR happiness problem in capital - probably cause she's giving everything she has to Weevil.
Gauthi (Phi, Ind)
Well well well: major bug here, I can't open his capital it crashes my game BAD. See this instead. He's been quiet on his island. It looks like he never built a pagan temple in his capital - at least it's the only area where the haunted lands haven't spread.
Hyborem
Well just a quick note: he's isolated.
Conclusions
This beta of Leaders Enhanced is already a lot of fun. Minor leader can get very powerful and the AI is handling them on par with major leader. Religious balance is better than in FFH but might need some tweaking still.
I think in Orbis in general AI is pretty good but sometimes get "stuck" like Pagaldee and Outhe here.
Very fun game. I might start another one on higher difficulty, aggressive AI and see how it goes.
/kill is good, especially early.
I like your ideas to tweak and not remove the traits. Some may be hard to do (trade routes aren't moddable in the trait files for example) but I like them. A bit of in-depth answers:
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