Monarchists' Cookbook I

[futurehermit]

Sushi is great, but we can beeline communism much sooner. I think we can get communism around the time we are closing out the game. We shouldn't need to tech past the early-to-mid renaissance imo. Rifling should be it imo. I don't think we really need cannons either tbh. As soon as we can draft/build rifles that should be all she wrote. I would rather go cs/sp for the immediate empire-wide $savings/production bonus than wait for corporation/medicine/railroad and a GM and GE to hit home (and flight?)

 

[Bleys]

I have to agree with hermit. Rifling is going to signal the beginning of the end for the AIs. I was planning to bee-line it (perhaps even take it from Lib) and use Galleons to go island-hopping, all the while REXing into every crook and cranny of land that I can.

But as it has been noted, Communism is a ways off, and my pre-Rifling goal is mainly to get as many cities down in as many strategic areas as possible, look for fast vertical growth in anticipation of the Nationalism-Rifling combo, and pop the cork when I manage that 30-turn Golden Age I mentioned earlier.

 

[r_rolo1]

I would tech to combustion after Rifling... hash and smash strat is cleary slowed down if we use galleons as basis ( besides that Drydocks would be extremely helpful... Medic galleons or transports are very nice for this kind of stuff ). MG also help dealing with some cat spam that some AI try to do...

But it might not be needed

 

[futurehermit]

Combustion could make things smoother, I agree. But, hopefully we could win domination (as opposed to conquest?) before that would be necessary?

 

[Diamondeye]

The save we will be playing from will be Bleys' for next round, good luck everyone.

(Since I don't understand those postcount=XXX and other codes I would like one of you to link the post or atleast find the URL so that I can link it, also so that I can update OP.

 

[futurehermit]

Congrats Bleys, nice round

 

[Solon70]

I find it helpful when someone takes the save file and renames it with "Best Ball" in the name, just to avoid any possibility of confusion. I don't know if anyone else cares about this or not, I just happened to like it when we did it after Round 1.

 

[Diamondeye]

Bleys report is on page 24, I still cant figure the correct URL out, but here is the save, renamed as per Solons wish

 

[Bleys]

The save we will be playing from will be Bleys' for next round, good luck everyone.

(Since I don't understand those postcount=XXX and other codes I would like one of you to link the post or atleast find the URL so that I can link it, also so that I can update OP.

Cool, quite a surprise since, as I said before, I felt this was my weakest round.

As far as linking an actual post, all you have to do is right-click on the # in the upper right hand corner of the post itself, and select "copy link location", then just paste it anywhere you need. So my report is at http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=6807273&postcount=468

 

[futurehermit]

Your economy was in good shape, which was the main selling point

 

[Bleys]

Having Maces and Cats didnt suck either

Remember, to try to get a clean, uncorrupted log file, I suggest the following steps:

1. Load the save, as its named.
2. Change the name under the "Your Details" in the Menu
3. Save the game with the new name
4. Exit to Main Menu
5. Reload the save you just created, and a brand new Auto-Log file should be created (if your using BUG, which I think all the Roster players are)

 

[futurehermit]

The option for war is ok, but with all the land to the east and our decision to settle peacefully, I think it would be a bit strange to turn around and attack someone (saladin?) now. It just wouldn't make sense imo with what we set out to do. We had the option to attack with cats/maces sooner and if there was risk of Sal getting feudalism before, there is much more risk a round later imo.

 

[Bleys]

Agree, but thats no reason NOT to build some maces and cats, if just for the Power rating benefit and taking down Barb cities. In fact, thats how I played it, writing my report up now.

I bet we see some differences in this one for SURE!

 

[Solon70]

Having Maces and Cats didnt suck either

Remember, to try to get a clean, uncorrupted log file, I suggest the following steps:

1. Load the save, as its named.
2. Change the name under the "Your Details" in the Menu
3. Save the game with the new name
4. Exit to Main Menu
5. Reload the save you just created, and a brand new Auto-Log file should be created (if your using BUG, which I think all the Roster players are)

I tried this with a couple different names, but it won't create a new auto-log for me, and so the game continues to crash every time I try to open the event log. Any idea why?

 

[Bleys]

Heres my report for this round. I am satisfied but not excited. I think that there will be some wider variances this round, though, I know I pondered considerably over a couple moves.

Spoiler :

Using the AutoLog again, it looks nice and clean, since I did the same thing I do each round, rename the "Your Details", save, exit, reload.

The first thing I noticed when I opened up the save was two very important deficiencies, not enough workers and not enough cities following my religion. Being in OR, this was hurting me baddly. I like squeezing hammers as much as I can, so watching those non-Hindu cities build stuff was painful.

Turn 220/750 (700 AD)
Research begun: Paper (9 Turns)
Cologne grows to size 5
Cologne finishes: Forge
Frankfurt grows to size 4
Taoism has spread: Dortmund

Turn 221/750 (715 AD)
Cologne finishes: Harbor

Here I decided to build a Galley in Cologne. It was a LONG haul around the bottom of that land mass, and I would need galleys on that side ASAP anyway. I also whipped out my Courthouse in Berlin, and started a Maceman to get some stronger units built, even though I had no intentions of going to war. Units serve many purposes, happy faces under Monarchy, and increased Power Ranking to deter attacks. I tried to slip units in between buildings, just to make sure I had them. Nothing sucks worse than wanting them and not having them. Rather have them, and not need them right away.

Turn 222/750 (730 AD)
Cologne begins: Galley (6 turns)
Berlin begins: Maceman (5 turns)
The whip was applied in Berlin
Berlin finishes: Courthouse
Hamburg finishes: Harbor
Essen grows to size 2

Turn 223/750 (745 AD)
Berlin begins: Maceman (5 turns)
Hamburg begins: Catapult (11 turns)
A Cottage was built near Essen
Contact made: Mongolian Empire
Berlin finishes: Maceman

Ah, finally found that last AI. KK. I knew he was there, but its nice to finally meet him.

Turn 224/750 (760 AD)
Berlin begins: National Epic (8 turns)
Maceman promoted: City Raider I
Munich begins: Settler (13 turns)
Cologne begins: Settler (9 turns)

Started the NE in Berlin. I want it up and running, since just about any Great Person is going to be of benefit. I try to run an Engineer and a couple Scientists as much as possible.

Turn 225/750 (775 AD)
Whip anger has decreased in Frankfurt
A Hamlet was built near Cologne
Frankfurt grows to size 5

Turn 226/750 (790 AD)

Got the Harbor Master event here. I am planning to try to get it done, since Harbors are strong anyway, and a few Caravels wont hurt (they upgrade to Frigates)

I had a couple other events, but I am not bothering to post screenshots. One slave-revolt in Berlin, and one Mine-explosion. Thank goodness I had some cash on hand to keep things rolling. The Harbormaster is the only "good" one I got all set.

Berlin grows to size 9
Munich finishes: Courthouse
Hsung-Nu grows to size 2
Dortmund finishes: Monument

Turn 227/750 (805 AD)
Munich begins: Trireme (7 turns)
Dortmund begins: Granary (23 turns)

Going to need a few Triemes, so I turn one out. I have to be ready to stop a possible invasion from KK. He can reach me by Galley, but I cannot reach him (you can only travel on your own cultural ocean tiles).

Munich grows to size 4
Essen grows to size 3
Judaism has spread: Hsung-Nu

Turn 228/750 (820 AD)
The whip was applied in Cologne
The whip was applied in Frankfurt
Tech learned: Paper
Cologne grows to size 4
Cologne finishes: Settler
Frankfurt finishes: Forge

Some whipping here, to hurry things along some. Overall, I am trying to cut back on the whipping, I want some growth now that I have my happy cap problems solved.

Paper also comes in, and I start Music, for the free Artist. I want the circumvent bonus for my water-riding Settlers, and getting AI maps as part of tech-cash sales is the best way to accomplish that goal.

Turn 229/750 (835 AD)
Research begun: Music (7 Turns)
Frankfurt begins: Monument (23 turns)
Cologne finishes: Galley
Frankfurt finishes: Monument

Turn 230/750 (850 AD)
Cologne begins: Maceman (9 turns)
Frankfurt begins: Worker (12 turns)
Cologne begins: Archer (4 turns)

The whip was applied in Munich
Berlin finishes: National Epic
Hamburg grows to size 4
Munich finishes: Trireme
Cologne finishes: Archer

Civics Change: Saladin(Arabia) from 'Despotism' to 'Hereditary Rule'

Berlin finishes NE, and I also notice Saladin now has Monarchy. He will soon be after Feud, but my espionage points cant quite see his research.

I also noticed he would finally trade me Calendar, so I jump on it. I cant remember what I gave him, though. I had started a Cat in Berlin, but I quickly switched to the MoM, one of my favorite Wonders. Marble too, this is going to be a breeze.

Turn 231/750 (860 AD)
Berlin begins: Catapult (3 turns)
Munich begins: Catapult (7 turns)
Cologne begins: Worker (5 turns)
Tech learned: Calendar
Berlin begins: Mausoleum of Maussollos (13 turns)
Taoism has spread: Oporto (Portuguese Empire)

Whip anger has decreased in Hamburg
Munich finishes: Catapult
Dortmund grows to size 2

Turn 232/750 (870 AD)
Munich begins: Catapult (7 turns)
Catapult promoted: City Raider I
Stuttgart founded
Stuttgart begins: Monument (12 turns)

Whip anger has decreased in Essen
Whip anger has decreased in Hsung-Nu
Hamburg finishes: Catapult
Judaism has spread: Hamburg
Hsung-Nu's borders expand

Turn 233/750 (880 AD)
Hamburg begins: Maceman (10 turns)
Catapult promoted: City Raider I

More units, bit by bit, keeping that Power rating up. I try to ship some over to the new area's as well, as there are a bunch of Barb cities there to take.

Essen finishes: Harbor
A Hamlet was built near Essen

Turn 234/750 (890 AD)
Essen begins: Forge (18 turns)
Socrates (Great Scientist) born in Berlin
Cologne finishes: Worker
Dortmund finishes: Granary

I get the predictable GS, and build an Academy.

Turn 235/750 (900 AD)
Cologne begins: Lighthouse (9 turns)
Dortmund begins: Forge (23 turns)
Berlin finishes: Academy
Whip anger has decreased in Cologne

Turn 236/750 (910 AD)
Berlin begins: Settler (5 turns)
Tech learned: Music
Du Fu (Great Artist) born in Berlin
Confucianism has spread: Essen

Music comes in, and here is where I stick a settler in front of the MoM for some overflow. I sleep the Artist, he will be my first Golden Age, but not until I either NEED it (someone DoWs) or really WANT it (when I am ready to go into "military" techs, and then out into Cottage-techs).

Here I pondered my tech choices, but in the end, I stick with what works for me, and thats Education. Yes, I know we have a big tech lead. I want to keep it that way, be one step closer to Lib, so I can tech around Lib but still be able to pop into it if I see an AI closing in on it.

Turn 237/750 (920 AD)
Research begun: Education (21 Turns)
A Pasture was built near Hsung-Nu
Whip anger has decreased in Berlin
Munich finishes: Catapult
Cologne grows to size 5
A Hamlet was built near Essen

Turn 238/750 (930 AD)
Munich begins: Hindu Missionary (6 turns)
Catapult promoted: City Raider I
A Farm was built near Munich
The whip was applied in Berlin
Berlin grows to size 7
Berlin finishes: Settler
Hsung-Nu grows to size 3

Heres the whip overflow on this settler, my record for this game:

273 hammers, wow. So killer to have all those bonuses applied.

Turn 240/750 (950 AD)
A Cottage was built near Cologne
Cologne finishes: Lighthouse
While defending in Barbarian territory at Angle, Scout loses to Barbarian Archer (3.00/3) (Prob Victory: 0.0%)

Oops, lost my poor scout. Oh well, I was sending him to "watch" for possible settlers or barbs heading toward my new cities on the newest, biggest continent I have settled.

Turn 241/750 (960 AD)
Cologne begins: Worker (5 turns)
Cologne begins: Barracks (6 turns)
The whip was applied in Hamburg
The whip was applied in Hsung-Nu
Hamburg finishes: Maceman
A Town was built near Hamburg
Cologne grows to size 6
Frankfurt finishes: Worker
Hsung-Nu finishes: Granary
Dortmund's borders expand

Turn 242/750 (970 AD)
Hamburg begins: Worker (9 turns)
Frankfurt begins: Harbor (30 turns)
Hsung-Nu begins: Forge (23 turns)
Maceman promoted: City Raider I
Berlin grows to size 8
Berlin finishes: Mausoleum of Maussollos
Frankfurt grows to size 4

Yeah, MoM is mine! I seriously love this Wonder. 15 turn Golden Ages are so good. I intend at least 3, the Great Artist I have sleeping, the Taj, and another 2-GPerson one later on, as I either push for a tech goal (combustion maybe?) or whatever. 45 turns of Golden Age at the cost of a few GPeople and some IND+marble+bonus hammers is a deal to me.

Turn 243/750 (980 AD)
Berlin begins: Hindu Missionary (3 turns)

I have built a few more Workers, and now I get serious about spreading my religion. I should have done this MUCH MUCH sooner, but I tend to procrastinate in this game too often. Working on that. Most of my newest cities have already had a religion spread, so I have to manually spread Hindu to them.

Whip anger has decreased in Frankfurt
Munich finishes: Hindu Missionary
Stuttgart finishes: Monument

Turn 244/750 (990 AD)
Munich begins: Maceman (10 turns)
Stuttgart begins: Granary (12 turns)
Berlin finishes: Hindu Missionary
Hamburg finishes: Worker
Frankfurt's borders expand

Turn 245/750 (1000 AD)
Berlin begins: Angkor Wat (18 turns)
Hamburg begins: Stable (9 turns)
Berlin begins: Maceman (4 turns)
Whip anger has decreased in Munich
Cologne finishes: Barracks

Turn 246/750 (1010 AD)
Cologne begins: Maceman (7 turns)
A Farm was built near Munich
Hinduism has spread: Essen
Cologne begins: Worker (4 turns)
The whip was applied in Frankfurt
Frankfurt grows to size 4
Frankfurt finishes: Harbor
Essen grows to size 4

Turn 247/750 (1020 AD)
Frankfurt begins: Lighthouse (45 turns)
A Cottage was built near Frankfurt
Munich grows to size 4
Hsung-Nu grows to size 3

Turn 248/750 (1030 AD)
Hinduism has spread: Hamburg
Berlin grows to size 9
Berlin finishes: Maceman
Dortmund grows to size 3

Turn 249/750 (1040 AD)
Berlin begins: Market (7 turns)
Maceman promoted: City Raider I
Dusseldorf founded
Dusseldorf begins: Monument (23 turns)
A Cottage was built near Dortmund
Ananda (Great Prophet) born in Berlin
Cologne finishes: Worker

I get a Prophet in Berlin. Settled him. I do have a Holy City (Taoism) but I highly doubt I will bother spreading it. I am actually hoping Saladin builds the AP for us, so we can take it later. In fact, him building that Wonder will be what "triggers" me into taking him out.

Turn 250/750 (1050 AD)
Cologne begins: Maceman (7 turns)
Whip anger has decreased in Cologne
Cologne grows to size 7

Turn 251/750 (1060 AD)
A Mine was built near Hsung-Nu
The whip was applied in Hsung-Nu
Hamburg grows to size 4
Hamburg finishes: Stable
Essen finishes: Forge
Hsung-Nu grows to size 3
Hsung-Nu finishes: Forge

Turn 252/750 (1070 AD)
Hamburg begins: Library (11 turns)
Essen begins: Courthouse (26 turns)
Hsung-Nu begins: Barracks (15 turns)
Hamburg begins: Trireme (7 turns)
Frankfurt grows to size 5

Turn 253/750 (1080 AD)
A Cottage was built near Munich
A Cottage was built near Essen
Whip anger has decreased in Berlin
Munich finishes: Maceman

Turn 254/750 (1090 AD)
Munich begins: Library (11 turns)
Maceman promoted: City Raider I
Berlin finishes: Market
Dortmund grows to size 4
Stuttgart finishes: Granary

Turn 255/750 (1100 AD)
Berlin begins: Hindu Monastery (3 turns)
Stuttgart begins: Forge (23 turns)
Munich's borders expand
Cologne grows to size 8
Hsung-Nu finishes: Barracks

Turn 256/750 (1110 AD)
Hsung-Nu begins: Library (14 turns)
A Pasture was built near Dortmund
Whip anger has decreased in Hamburg
Whip anger has decreased in Hsung-Nu
Berlin finishes: Hindu Monastery
Cologne finishes: Maceman
Frankfurt finishes: Lighthouse

Turn 257/750 (1120 AD)
Berlin begins: Hindu Missionary (2 turns)
Cologne begins: Library (9 turns)
Frankfurt begins: Barracks (25 turns)
Maceman promoted: City Raider I
Tech learned: Education

Education comes in. Didnt bulb any of it. Teching nicely, indeed. I go for Drama now, for theaters and Globe, and cultural pressure on Sals cities on Colognes landmass. He actually snuck a settler behind me, the dog! I didnt settle that spot since I felt I had time, and instead grabbed a couple spots on the other landmass to the East (on the Elephants for a 2-hammer city tile, and south of that for the Horses)

Turn 258/750 (1130 AD)
A Pasture was built near Dusseldorf
Research begun: Drama (4 Turns)
Berlin finishes: Hindu Missionary
Hamburg finishes: Trireme
Essen grows to size 5
Dortmund finishes: Forge
Stuttgart's borders expand

Turn 259/750 (1140 AD)
Berlin begins: University (8 turns)
Hamburg begins: Horse Archer (7 turns)
Dortmund begins: Barracks (10 turns)
A Cottage was built near Frankfurt
Berlin begins: Settler (5 turns)
Berlin begins: Galley (3 turns)
While attacking, Maceman decimates Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 95.0%)
While attacking in Barbarian territory at Bactrian, Maceman (3.20/8) defeats Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 95.0%)
While attacking, Axeman decimates Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 69.8%)
While attacking in Barbarian territory at Bactrian, Axeman (0.75/5) defeats Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 69.8%)
Captured Bactrian (Barbarian)
Bactrian begins: Monument (46 turns)

I had been galleying over units, and here I have a Cat, a Mace, and an Axe by the Barb city. A couple turns of bombarding the cultural defenses, then I send the Mace and Axe in. Both with easily, and I keep the city since its not horrible, will pop Beavers, can share food with the Horse city to the north)

The whip was applied in Cologne
Munich grows to size 5
Cologne finishes: Library
Christianity has spread: Frankfurt

Turn 260/750 (1150 AD)
Cologne begins: Settler (8 turns)
Axeman promoted: City Raider III
Maceman promoted: City Raider II
A Cottage was built near Hsung-Nu
A Cottage was built near Berlin
Cologne begins: Market (18 turns)

Berlin grows to size 10
Berlin finishes: Galley
Cologne grows to size 7
Frankfurt grows to size 6
Dortmund grows to size 5
Stuttgart grows to size 2

Turn 261/750 (1160 AD)
Berlin begins: Hindu Missionary (2 turns)
A Mine was built near Essen
Whip anger has decreased in Frankfurt
Tech learned: Drama
A Hamlet was built near Frankfurt
Hsung-Nu grows to size 4

Drama comes in. I can see by my BUG interface that I am likely to pop another GS next, and he can bulb part of it. PP is a nice tech for us, we will have lots of cottages maturing fairly quickly as our populations go vertical. Its also on the way to Replacable Parts.

Civics Change: Saladin(Arabia) from 'Barbarism' to 'Vassalage'

Well, there it is, the bad news, Sal has his LBs. No worries, Trebs soften them up, and Maces can finish them off, if needed. Trebs + Rifles seems more likely though. Fish in a barrel, even with all those promotions.

Turn 262/750 (1170 AD) [17-May-2008 00:02:41]
Research begun: Printing Press (15 Turns)
Berlin finishes: Hindu Missionary
Munich finishes: Library

Turn 263/750 (1180 AD) [17-May-2008 00:09:05]
Berlin begins: Maceman (4 turns)
Munich begins: Maceman (9 turns)
Mikhail Lomonosov (Great Scientist) born in Berlin
A Village was built near Essen
A Hamlet was built near Dortmund

Theres the Scientist. I bulb most of whats left of PP. I am gunning for Rifling off Lib, MAYBE!! Depends on when I feel I cant put Lib off anymore. I dont mind my standard "Nationalism from Lib, tech to Rifles, get a Taj Golden Age, and Draft a winning Army" plan. Works pretty well on Monarch, and in this game, I can already tell I will have a huge military tech edge.

Turn 264/750 (1190 AD) [17-May-2008 00:12:34]
A Hamlet was built near Cologne
A Village was built near Cologne
Taoism has spread: Stuttgart
Dusseldorf finishes: Monument

Turn 265/750 (1200 AD) [17-May-2008 00:16:03]
Dusseldorf begins: Granary (12 turns)
Tech learned: Feudalism
Cologne begins: Settler (8 turns)

I trade for Feud, giving Sal Music and something else small for it. I also have 1 turn left on PP, so I whip a few things, for fresh queues, and go for the extra turn to finish off PP. Its the end of the round, but I finish off PP.

The whip was applied in Hsung-Nu
The whip was applied in Dortmund
The whip was applied in Bactrian
Tech learned: Printing Press
Berlin's borders expand
Berlin finishes: Maceman
Hamburg finishes: Horse Archer
Hsung-Nu finishes: Library
Dortmund finishes: Barracks
Dusseldorf grows to size 2
Bactrian finishes: Monument

Turn 266/750 (1210 AD) [17-May-2008 00:21:31]
Research begun: Liberalism (17 Turns)
Berlin begins: Theatre (2 turns)
Hamburg begins: Library (11 turns)
Hsung-Nu begins: Theatre (10 turns)
Dortmund begins: Courthouse (23 turns)
Bactrian begins: Barracks (38 turns)

Thats it for that set. Lib is just a placeholder, no beakers. Same with most of the build queues. All in all, I am fairly happy with it. I got a few new cities down, started getting some units out, spread the religion around a bit (I have a Galley with 2 missionaries on it headed for the Cologne island), and got some territory. Heres some pics:

Next round goals include:
Gunpower and Replacable Parts for Rifling from Lib, maybe
More cities on the bigger island, especially the Gold site ASAP, then some units to take Barb cities.
Moving Capitol once a city seems likely, post Bureaucracy probably, since we may want FS by then.
More Triemes, and even Caravels for the Harbormaster quest.

Pros and Cons:

Pros =
Foothold on newest island
Still dominating tech lead
MoM built, and a Great Artist sleeping for a 15-turn Golden Age
Economy still very strong despite the expansion
+1 sea movement from Circumvent bonus (might have forgotten to mention it in report, but I traded for a couple maps)

Cons=
Still not enough workers
Still not enough cities with our Religion
Still not the best diplomatic situation, but Sal is high-Pleased so I dont mind
Could have expanded a bit more, let Sal sneak a city on a decent spot (May be able to culture pressure it enough though, with Theaters from all 4 sides)

 

[Bleys]

I tried this with a couple different names, but it won't create a new auto-log for me, and so the game continues to crash every time I try to open the event log. Any idea why?

You will never be able to access the in-game Event log again in this game, so there is no use trying. Its a known problem, and they are working on it, but there is no fix.

As for the AutoLog, you need to have the BUG mod installed, and the AutoLog feature turned on.

But the in-game Event Log is gone forever, there is no fix.

 

[Solon70]

Oh, okay. You're right, I did have a new auto-log under the new name, I just couldn't access it. Anyway, here's my report for this round.

Spoiler :

Turn 220/750 (700 AD) [17-May-2008 20:35:20]
Research begun: Optics (9 Turns)
Munich begins: Lighthouse (7 turns)
Dortmund begins: Granary (23 turns)

Since we have such a far-flung empire, I decide to research Optics right away and get the circumnavigation bonus. I change just a couple of production orders - Munich really needs that lighthouse to grow.

Something that was brought up in an earlier round is that cottage spam is actually sort of at odds with ownership of the Colossus. For example, rather than cottage the flood plains on the island just south of Berlin, my preference would be to farm them in order to grow fast and work a bunch of water tiles as quickly as possible. I didn't farm over the cottage we already had there, naturally, but I did farm the one that was available.

After End Turn:
Cologne grows to size 5
Cologne finishes: Forge
Frankfurt grows to size 4

Turn 221/750 (715 AD) [17-May-2008 20:47:56]
Taoism has spread: Dortmund

I burn the Taoist Missionary we had in Dortmund. This was probably suboptimal, as it doesn't give any culture (not being the state religion) and Taoism will likely spread there naturally from the holy city, but not a big deal.

Sal cancels a deal that gave us incense for free. How'd we get that one in the first place? Time to strike a new deal for the incense, that's handy to have.

After End Turn:
Cologne finishes: Harbor

Turn 222/750 (730 AD) [17-May-2008 20:51:05]
Cologne begins: Lighthouse (9 turns)

After End Turn:
Berlin finishes: Courthouse
Hamburg finishes: Harbor
Essen grows to size 2

We meet Kublai, who is way behind us just like everyone.

Turn 223/750 (745 AD) [17-May-2008 20:52:48]
Berlin begins: Settler (5 turns)
Hamburg begins: Archer (6 turns)
A Cottage was built near Essen
Contact made: Mongolian Empire
Frankfurt begins: Lighthouse (45 turns)

After End Turn:
The whip was applied in Frankfurt
Frankfurt finishes: Forge

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Sitting Bull(Native America) towards Tokugawa(Japan), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'

Without a whole lot of extra resources, this is what Sal wants in exchange for the incense:

Before I automatically reject it, I look and realize that he has iron right next to Medina. Well heck, why not let him have our extra one then? The happiness resource is important.


Turn 224/750 (760 AD) [17-May-2008 20:57:34]
Frankfurt begins: Lighthouse (45 turns)

After End Turn:
Cologne grows to size 6
A Hamlet was built near Cologne
Frankfurt grows to size 3

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Kublai Khan(Mongolia) towards Sitting Bull(Native America), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'

Turn 225/750 (775 AD) [17-May-2008 21:13:28]
Essen begins: Lighthouse (90 turns)

After End Turn:
Whip anger has decreased in Frankfurt

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Kublai Khan(Mongolia) towards Sitting Bull(Native America), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Sitting Bull(Native America) towards Tokugawa(Japan), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'

Turn 226/750 (790 AD) [17-May-2008 21:15:07]

After End Turn:
Munich finishes: Lighthouse
Hsung-Nu grows to size 2

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Sitting Bull(Native America) towards Kublai Khan(Mongolia), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'

Turn 227/750 (805 AD) [17-May-2008 21:16:12]

After End Turn:
Berlin finishes: Settler
Hamburg finishes: Archer
Munich grows to size 4
Cologne finishes: Lighthouse
Essen grows to size 3

Turn 228/750 (820 AD) [17-May-2008 21:17:42]
Berlin begins: Hindu Missionary (3 turns)
Hamburg begins: Library (20 turns)
Cologne begins: Worker (5 turns)
A Farm was built near Dortmund
Archer 1 of Hamburg (Archer) promoted: City Garrison I

I don't like wasting hammers on monuments when a state religion is available. However, this means I have to make a priority of getting Hinduism spread to the new cities.

After End Turn:
Tech learned: Optics
Frankfurt grows to size 4

Turn 229/750 (835 AD) [17-May-2008 21:19:50]
Research begun: Music (8 Turns)

Since the GA is available I'm going to grab it next. No rush in working towards Liberalism thanks to the tech lead.

Turn 230/750 (850 AD) [17-May-2008 21:22:03]

After End Turn:
Berlin finishes: Hindu Missionary
Hamburg grows to size 4

Other Player Actions:
Civics Change: Saladin(Arabia) from 'Despotism' to 'Hereditary Rule'

We get a nice quest, for stuff we'll likely be building anyway:

Turn 231/750 (860 AD) [17-May-2008 21:23:22]
Berlin begins: Caravel (4 turns)

Should only take one Caravel to get the circumnav bonus, since we've explored so much of the map already.

After End Turn:
Whip anger has decreased in Hamburg
Cologne finishes: Worker
Dortmund grows to size 2

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Saladin(Arabia) towards MC 1 Solon Round 3(Germany), from 'Pleased' to 'Friendly'

Turn 232/750 (870 AD) [17-May-2008 21:24:34]
Cologne begins: Library (11 turns)

After End Turn:
Whip anger has decreased in Essen
Whip anger has decreased in Hsung-Nu
Berlin grows to size 10
Essen grows to size 4
Hsung-Nu's borders expand

Turn 233/750 (880 AD) [17-May-2008 21:27:17]
A Farm was built near Essen

After End Turn:
The whip was applied in Essen
Berlin finishes: Caravel
Munich finishes: Courthouse
Cologne grows to size 7
Essen finishes: Lighthouse

Turn 234/750 (890 AD) [17-May-2008 21:29:12]
Berlin begins: Archer (2 turns)
Munich begins: Library (15 turns)

After End Turn:
A Hamlet was built near Cologne

Turn 235/750 (900 AD) [17-May-2008 21:32:54]

After End Turn:
Whip anger has decreased in Cologne
Berlin finishes: Archer
Frankfurt grows to size 5

Built another Archer for happiness purposes, need more missionaries still.

Turn 236/750 (910 AD) [17-May-2008 21:34:04]
Berlin begins: Hindu Missionary (3 turns)
Archer 2 of Berlin (Archer) promoted: City Garrison I
A Farm was built near Dortmund

After End Turn:
Tech learned: Music
William Shakespeare (Great Artist) born in Berlin
Essen grows to size 3

I decide to sit on the GA for the time being.

Turn 237/750 (920 AD) [17-May-2008 21:35:05]
Research begun: Paper (8 Turns)

After End Turn:
Berlin finishes: Hindu Missionary
Frankfurt finishes: Lighthouse
A Hamlet was built near Essen
A Hamlet was built near Essen

Turn 238/750 (930 AD) [17-May-2008 21:37:45]
Berlin begins: Hindu Missionary (3 turns)
Frankfurt begins: Harbor (30 turns)
Berlin begins: Caravel (4 turns)

After End Turn:
Cologne grows to size 8
Hsung-Nu grows to size 3
Dortmund finishes: Granary

Other Player Actions:
Taoism has spread: Magyar (Native American Empire)

My Hindu Missionary has arrived in the New World. It might be smarter to plant him in Cologne and build more missionaries from there, but I'm anxious to get Dortmund growing.

Meanwhile, I've sent an axeman wandering, and he finds a goody hut still available, guarded by a barb archer:

Turns out to be nothing but more barbs. Oh well!

Turn 239/750 (940 AD) [17-May-2008 21:41:22]
Hinduism has spread: Dortmund
Dortmund begins: Hindu Missionary (20 turns)
While attacking, Axeman decimates Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 73.6%)
While attacking in the wild near Oporto, Axeman (1.60/5) defeats Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 73.6%)
Tribal village results: weak hostiles

After End Turn:
Hanno (Great Merchant) born in Berlin
Taoism has spread: Hsung-Nu

Now I have a GM. He can bulb Paper, which I'm already halfway through, and after that Printing Press, which is certainly useful, but I don't have many matured cottages at all. Instead, I decide I'm going to send him on a trade mission, courtesy of my fleet of Caravels, to get some deficit research funds.

Other Player Actions:
State Religion Change: Sitting Bull(Native America) from 'no State Religion' to 'Taoism'
Attitude Change: Joao II(Portugal) towards Sitting Bull(Native America), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Civics Change: Louis XIV(France) from 'Paganism' to 'Free Religion'

Turn 240/750 (950 AD) [17-May-2008 21:43:31]
Axeman promoted: Combat I

After End Turn:
Whip anger has decreased in Frankfurt
Berlin grows to size 11
Berlin finishes: Caravel
Cologne finishes: Library
Frankfurt grows to size 6
Essen grows to size 4

Circumnavigation bonus comes in this turn. Hooray!

Turn 241/750 (960 AD) [17-May-2008 21:46:59]
Berlin begins: Caravel (4 turns)
Cologne begins: Archer (3 turns)
A Farm was built near Essen

After End Turn:
Hamburg grows to size 5
A Town was built near Hamburg
Munich grows to size 5

Other Player Actions:
Civics Change: Tokugawa(Japan) from 'Despotism' to 'Hereditary Rule'

Turn 242/750 (970 AD) [17-May-2008 21:50:44]
A Cottage was built near Cologne

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Suleiman(Ottomans) towards MC 1 Solon Round 3(Germany), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'
Attitude Change: Suleiman(Ottomans) towards Tokugawa(Japan), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'
Civics Change: Suleiman(Ottomans) from 'Despotism' to 'Hereditary Rule'

Turn 243/750 (980 AD) [17-May-2008 21:51:59]
A Pasture was built near Hsung-Nu

After End Turn:
Tech learned: Paper
Cologne finishes: Archer

With Paper in, now it's time to figure out what that Great Artist is doing. He can bulb Drama, once Drama is in he can bulb Theology, and once Theology is in he can bulb Divine Right. In my key strategy decision of the round, I decide to beeline DR with the intent of building Versailles in the New World. This will enable us to build the FP on a different landmass altogether.

Also, since we already have the circumnav bonus, we trade world maps around to anyone who will give them, picking up about 100 gold in the process.

Turn 244/750 (990 AD) [17-May-2008 21:53:44]
Research begun: Drama (4 Turns)
Cologne begins: Archer (3 turns)

After End Turn:
Berlin finishes: Caravel
Essen grows to size 5
Hsung-Nu finishes: Granary
Dortmund grows to size 3

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Tokugawa(Japan) towards Suleiman(Ottomans), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Tokugawa(Japan) towards Louis XIV(France), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious'

Turn 245/750 (1000 AD) [17-May-2008 21:58:35]
Berlin begins: Hindu Missionary (3 turns)
Hsung-Nu begins: Lighthouse (23 turns)

After End Turn:
Cologne grows to size 9
Essen finishes: Harbor

Other Player Actions:

Turn 246/750 (1010 AD) [17-May-2008 22:00:41]
Essen begins: Forge (23 turns)
Stuttgart founded
Stuttgart begins: Granary (45 turns)
Frankfurt begins: Courthouse (36 turns)

We found Stuttgart on the big continent to pick up some key resources.

After End Turn:
Tech learned: Drama
Berlin finishes: Hindu Missionary
Hamburg finishes: Library
Cologne finishes: Archer

With Drama in, Theology is the tech we need to get out of the way to bulb DR. We do a big trade with our good buddy Sal.

Turn 247/750 (1020 AD) [17-May-2008 22:03:44]
Research begun: Theology (5 Turns)
Berlin begins: Settler (5 turns)
Hamburg begins: Archer (6 turns)
Cologne begins: Barracks (5 turns)
Tech learned: Theology
Tech learned: Calendar
Hinduism has spread: Cologne
Research begun: Divine Right (15 Turns)

My GA will bulb about 10 of the 15 turns needed for DR. Sounds good to me.

After End Turn:
The whip was applied in Dortmund
Frankfurt grows to size 7
Dortmund finishes: Hindu Missionary

Other Player Actions:
Taoism has spread: Ankara (Native American Empire)
Attitude Change: Tokugawa(Japan) towards Saladin(Arabia), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'

Turn 248/750 (1030 AD) [17-May-2008 22:12:18]
Dortmund begins: Forge (30 turns)

After End Turn:
Whip anger has decreased in Essen
Munich finishes: Library
Taoism has spread: Stuttgart

Other Player Actions:
Civics Change: Kublai Khan(Mongolia) from 'Despotism' to 'Hereditary Rule'
Civics Change: Sitting Bull(Native America) from 'Paganism' to 'Organized Religion'

One thing I've skimped on this round is Wonders. With nothing better to do in Munich, I decide to start the MoM.

Turn 249/750 (1040 AD) [17-May-2008 22:14:20]
Munich begins: Mausoleum of Maussollos (38 turns)
A Mine was built near Cologne

After End Turn:
The whip was applied in Frankfurt
Frankfurt finishes: Courthouse
Essen grows to size 6

Other Player Actions:

Turn 250/750 (1050 AD) [17-May-2008 22:16:43]
Hinduism has spread: Frankfurt

After End Turn:
Cologne finishes: Barracks

Other Player Actions:

Turn 251/750 (1060 AD) [17-May-2008 22:18:39]
Cologne begins: Archer (3 turns)
Hinduism has spread: Stuttgart

After End Turn:
Berlin finishes: Settler
Cologne grows to size 10
Frankfurt grows to size 5
Hsung-Nu grows to size 4
Dortmund grows to size 3

Another one of the marble Wonders is available, needing only 15 turns, so I start it in Berlin. I've been using it pretty productively to pump out caravels and missionaries but I can let up on that effort now.

Sal offers us the following yummy trade, obviously we snap up the happiness resource.

Turn 252/750 (1070 AD) [17-May-2008 22:21:46]
Berlin begins: The Hagia Sophia (15 turns)
A Farm was built near Munich

After End Turn:
Tech learned: Divine Right
Islam founded in Hamburg
Islam has spread: Hamburg
Hamburg finishes: Archer
Munich's borders expand

Now it's time to get back on the Liberalism track.

Turn 253/750 (1080 AD) [17-May-2008 22:24:17]
Research begun: Education (18 Turns)
Hamburg begins: Market (33 turns)
Archer 5 of Hamburg (Archer) promoted: City Garrison I

After End Turn:
Berlin grows to size 12
Hamburg grows to size 6
Munich grows to size 6
Cologne finishes: Archer
Dortmund's borders expand

As planned, I start Versailles in Cologne.

Turn 254/750 (1090 AD) [17-May-2008 22:28:54]
Cologne begins: Versailles (27 turns)
Archer 6 of Cologne (Archer) promoted: City Garrison I

After End Turn:
A Hamlet was built near Cologne
A Village was built near Cologne
Essen grows to size 7

Other Player Actions:

Turn 255/750 (1100 AD) [17-May-2008 22:30:43]

After End Turn:
Cologne's borders expand
Frankfurt grows to size 6

Other Player Actions:
Civics Change: Joao II(Portugal) from 'Paganism' to 'Organized Religion'

Very nice event in our capital.

Turn 256/750 (1110 AD) [17-May-2008 22:32:40]
Hinduism has spread: Hamburg
Hinduism has spread: Essen
Hinduism has spread: Hsung-Nu
A Mine was built near Hsung-Nu
Islam has spread: Berlin

After End Turn:
Stuttgart grows to size 2

Another great event!

Not only does this let us spread Hinduism to the couple of cities we haven't hit yet, but it lets us warm up to Toku! Happily he goes whole hog and converts to our religion.

Other Player Actions:
State Religion Change: Tokugawa(Japan) from 'Buddhism' to 'Hinduism'
Attitude Change: Saladin(Arabia) towards Tokugawa(Japan), from 'Annoyed' to 'Pleased'
Attitude Change: Tokugawa(Japan) towards MC 1 Solon Round 3(Germany), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Tokugawa(Japan) towards Saladin(Arabia), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Tokugawa(Japan) towards Joao II(Portugal), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Joao II(Portugal) towards Tokugawa(Japan), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious'

Turn 257/750 (1120 AD) [17-May-2008 22:35:24]

After End Turn:
Cologne grows to size 11

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Joao II(Portugal) towards Sitting Bull(Native America), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Sitting Bull(Native America) towards MC 1 Solon Round 3(Germany), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'
Attitude Change: Sitting Bull(Native America) towards Kublai Khan(Mongolia), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Sitting Bull(Native America) towards Louis XIV(France), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'

Turn 258/750 (1130 AD) [17-May-2008 22:37:15]

After End Turn:
Frankfurt finishes: Harbor
Hsung-Nu grows to size 5

Toku is way behind us in tech, so I gift him CoL to see if he warms up to us any more. Not yet, he's still Cautious.

Turn 259/750 (1140 AD) [17-May-2008 22:39:42]
Frankfurt begins: Library (34 turns)

After End Turn:
Frankfurt grows to size 7

Other Player Actions:
Civics Change: Saladin(Arabia) from 'Barbarism' to 'Vassalage'

Turn 260/750 (1150 AD) [17-May-2008 22:40:54]
Dusseldorf founded
Dusseldorf begins: Granary (23 turns)
A Farm was built near Munich

We found Dusseldorf on the plains hill to the SE of Hsung-Nu.

After End Turn:
Essen grows to size 8
Hsung-Nu finishes: Lighthouse

We get beat to the MoM, but get 216 gold for our troubles.

Turn 261/750 (1160 AD) [17-May-2008 22:42:25]
Munich begins: Theatre (8 turns)
Hsung-Nu begins: Forge (30 turns)

After End Turn:
Dortmund grows to size 4

Turn 262/750 (1170 AD) [17-May-2008 22:46:14]

After End Turn:
Whip anger has decreased in Dortmund
Berlin finishes: The Hagia Sophia
Narak (Great Prophet) born in Berlin
A Hamlet was built near Cologne
Dortmund finishes: Forge

GP in Berlin. Since it's near the end of the round, I just save him. Hagia Sophia completed.

Turn 263/750 (1180 AD) [17-May-2008 22:47:58]
Berlin begins: Theatre (2 turns)
Dortmund begins: Hindu Missionary (10 turns)
A Farm was built near Stuttgart

After End Turn:
A Town was built near Hamburg
A Hamlet was built near Essen

Our Great Merchant finally arrives in Istanbul to complete his trade mission. (You forgot about him, didn't you!) We get 1900 gold and crank up the research slider to 100%.

Turn 264/750 (1190 AD) [17-May-2008 22:52:02]

After End Turn:
Whip anger has decreased in Frankfurt
The whip was applied in Dortmund
Berlin finishes: Theatre
Cologne grows to size 12
A Village was built near Cologne
Frankfurt's borders expand
Dortmund finishes: Hindu Missionary

Turn 265/750 (1200 AD) [17-May-2008 22:55:05]
Berlin begins: Market (6 turns)
Dortmund begins: Harbor (18 turns)

Pros:

1. Versailles due soon in Cologne, which will be a huge help to the economy.
2. Circumnav bonus.
3. Only one more harbor needed to complete Harbormaster quest (Dortmund is working on it).
4. 1700 gold to fund deficit research, with only 2 turns left on Education.
5. Couple nice events this round, including extra hammer in the capital and conversion of Toku to our state religion.
6. Hinduism in all our cities except the newest (missionary arrives there next turn.) We have a GP stashed in Berlin who can build a shrine for either Taoism or Islam if we want.

Cons:

1. No military whatsoever.
2. Need more workers, lots of tiles to improve before we get Astronomy and lose the Colossus.
3. Only 2 new cities founded this round.

 

[Diamondeye]

Sigh, I havent had the time to be very active nor play the round yet this weekend... I hope I can make it before deadline. I am going to update the OP now to reflect that we are playing 4th round.

 

[r_rolo1]

My first decision about the game was that I would not settle more cities in the island where Sal has his newer possessions, because of the colonial maintenance.... Given that we have a lot more space to expand i decided to settle cities elsewhere....
Nothing like good news to start....

Spoiler :

I renegotiated later to a incense + dyes vs cooper + gpt... But that will last not much longer:

Spoiler :

I also decided to Research Calendar and Optics before starting Education... There are still some huts ( guarded , OFC ) and there is a decent chance of getting astro out of it. Made some spies for that.

Finally met KK....

Spoiler :

OB on sight

Calendar was in, after Optics. MoM was queued ( gotta love the 50% extra lenght of GA ).

First strike, first hit ( got pretty , pretty lucky on this one ,I guess ):

Spoiler :

Settled in the Big long island..... Lucky spread of hinduism made it pop far earlier than the library.

Spoiler :

Got a GS... waited until the last moment to bulb education.

Spoiler :

Started Enginnering after that.

Some more turns and I got a quest:

Spoiler :

this quest has a choice between 2 promo options for naval units and 1 coin per harbor..... interesting. Used one of the cool BUG features of the F! screen to check how many harbors I needed to do:

Spoiler :

... and discovered that I only needed to finish the already queued harbors and more caravels.

Finished MoM

Spoiler :

Like I said before, I made a deal with Saladin...

Spoiler :

There are no cooper enhaced buidings for a long time ( SoL is far away ) and Sal has iron. So no problem in selling cooper. This needs Drama

Got Engineering....

Spoiler :

Queued Gunpowder. I feel the game with enough control by my side to Lib steel.....

Got a secongd GS.... this time I made a academy in capitol

Spoiler :

Some data:

Spoiler :

Log

Spoiler :

Logging by BUG Mod 2.22 [Revision 600] (BtS 3.13)
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Turn 220/750 (700 AD) [18-May-2008 12:48:30]
Cologne begins: Harbor (5 turns)
Berlin begins: Settler (5 turns)
Munich begins: Spy (6 turns)
Munich begins: Spy (6 turns)
Frankfurt begins: Harbor (30 turns)
Hsung-Nu begins: Harbor (60 turns)

After End Turn:
Cologne grows to size 5
Cologne finishes: Forge
Frankfurt grows to size 4

Other Player Actions:

Turn 221/750 (715 AD) [18-May-2008 12:52:22]
Taoism has spread: Dortmund
Cologne begins: Archer (4 turns)
Cologne begins: Archer (4 turns)

After End Turn:
Cologne finishes: Harbor

Other Player Actions:

Turn 222/750 (730 AD) [18-May-2008 12:53:35]
Hamburg begins: Archer (6 turns)
Hamburg begins: Archer (6 turns)

After End Turn:
Berlin finishes: Courthouse
Hamburg finishes: Harbor
Cologne finishes: Archer
Essen grows to size 2

Other Player Actions:

Turn 223/750 (745 AD) [18-May-2008 12:54:53]

After End Turn:
Cologne grows to size 6

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Sitting Bull(Native America) towards Tokugawa(Japan), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'

Turn 224/750 (760 AD) [18-May-2008 12:55:31]

After End Turn:
A Hamlet was built near Cologne

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Sitting Bull(Native America) towards Tokugawa(Japan), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'

Turn 225/750 (775 AD) [18-May-2008 12:55:55]
Berlin begins: Archer (2 turns)

After End Turn:
Whip anger has decreased in Frankfurt
Frankfurt grows to size 5

Other Player Actions:

Turn 226/750 (790 AD) [18-May-2008 12:56:16]

After End Turn:
Munich finishes: Courthouse
Cologne finishes: Archer
Hsung-Nu grows to size 2

Other Player Actions:

Turn 227/750 (805 AD) [18-May-2008 12:56:27]
Cologne begins: Archer (3 turns)
Berlin begins: Worker (3 turns)

After End Turn:
Berlin finishes: Settler
Hamburg finishes: Archer
Munich grows to size 4

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Joao II(Portugal) towards r_rolo1 MC1 Round 4(Germany), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'

Turn 228/750 (820 AD) [18-May-2008 12:56:58]
Archer 3 of Hamburg (Archer) promoted: City Garrison I

After End Turn:
Tech learned: Paper
Cologne finishes: Archer

Other Player Actions:

Turn 229/750 (835 AD) [18-May-2008 12:57:33]
Research begun: Optics (9 Turns)
Cologne begins: Lighthouse (7 turns)
Cologne begins: Settler (9 turns)

After End Turn:
Berlin finishes: Archer
Cologne grows to size 7
Essen grows to size 3

Other Player Actions:

Turn 230/750 (850 AD) [18-May-2008 12:58:44]
Berlin begins: Hindu Monastery (3 turns)
Archer 5 of Berlin (Archer) promoted: City Garrison I
A Farm was built near Essen

After End Turn:
Hamburg grows to size 4

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Sitting Bull(Native America) towards Tokugawa(Japan), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Civics Change: Saladin(Arabia) from 'Despotism' to 'Hereditary Rule'

Turn 231/750 (860 AD) [18-May-2008 12:59:39]
Stuttgart founded
Stuttgart begins: Monument (23 turns)

After End Turn:
Whip anger has decreased in Hamburg
Munich finishes: Spy
Frankfurt grows to size 6
Dortmund grows to size 2

Other Player Actions:
Hinduism has spread: Stuttgart
Attitude Change: Sitting Bull(Native America) towards Tokugawa(Japan), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'

Turn 232/750 (870 AD) [18-May-2008 13:00:34]

After End Turn:
Whip anger has decreased in Essen
Whip anger has decreased in Hsung-Nu
Berlin grows to size 10
Berlin finishes: Hindu Monastery
Hamburg finishes: Archer
Hsung-Nu's borders expand

Other Player Actions:

Turn 233/750 (880 AD) [18-May-2008 13:01:04]
Berlin begins: Market (7 turns)
Hamburg begins: Archer (6 turns)
Archer 6 of Hamburg (Archer) promoted: City Garrison I

After End Turn:

Other Player Actions:

Turn 234/750 (890 AD) [18-May-2008 13:01:57]
Contact made: Mongolian Empire

After End Turn:
Berlin finishes: Worker
Cologne grows to size 8
A Hamlet was built near Cologne
Dortmund finishes: Monument

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Tokugawa(Japan) towards Suleiman(Ottomans), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Tokugawa(Japan) towards Louis XIV(France), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious'

Turn 235/750 (900 AD) [18-May-2008 13:02:54]
Dortmund begins: Harbor (15 turns)

After End Turn:
Whip anger has decreased in Cologne
Taoism has spread: Hamburg
Cologne finishes: Lighthouse

Other Player Actions:
Civics Change: Joao II(Portugal) from 'Paganism' to 'Organized Religion'

Turn 236/750 (910 AD) [18-May-2008 13:03:27]
Munich begins: Galley (7 turns)

After End Turn:
Tech learned: Optics
A Hamlet was built near Essen
A Hamlet was built near Essen
Hsung-Nu finishes: Granary

Other Player Actions:

Turn 237/750 (920 AD) [18-May-2008 13:03:53]
Research begun: Calendar (4 Turns)
A Mine was built near Essen
Berlin begins: Archer (2 turns)

After End Turn:
Confucianism has spread: Essen

Other Player Actions:

Turn 238/750 (930 AD) [18-May-2008 13:04:52]
Hamburg begins: Caravel (13 turns)

After End Turn:
Hamburg finishes: Archer
Hsung-Nu grows to size 3

Other Player Actions:

Turn 239/750 (940 AD) [18-May-2008 13:05:33]
Archer 7 of Hamburg (Archer) promoted: City Garrison I

After End Turn:
Andrei Sakharov (Great Scientist) born in Berlin

Other Player Actions:
Civics Change: Louis XIV(France) from 'Paganism' to 'Free Religion'

Turn 240/750 (950 AD) [18-May-2008 13:06:11]
A Cottage was built near Essen
Cologne begins: Archer (3 turns)
Cologne begins: Taoist Temple (8 turns)
Cologne begins: Archer (3 turns)

After End Turn:
Tech learned: Calendar
Essen finishes: Harbor

Other Player Actions:

Turn 241/750 (960 AD) [18-May-2008 13:07:02]
Research begun: Education (21 Turns)
Essen begins: Courthouse (45 turns)

After End Turn:
Berlin finishes: Market
Hamburg grows to size 5
A Town was built near Hamburg

Other Player Actions:
Taoism has spread: Rheims (French Empire)
Attitude Change: Suleiman(Ottomans) towards r_rolo1 MC1 Round 4(Germany), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'
Civics Change: Suleiman(Ottomans) from 'Despotism' to 'Hereditary Rule'
Civics Change: Suleiman(Ottomans) from 'Paganism' to 'Theocracy'

Turn 242/750 (970 AD) [18-May-2008 13:08:04]
A Farm was built near Dortmund
A Farm was built near Munich
Turn 242/750 (970 AD) [18-May-2008 13:09:24]
Berlin begins: Mausoleum of Maussollos (12 turns)

After End Turn:
Berlin finishes: Archer
Munich finishes: Galley
Cologne finishes: Settler
Dortmund finishes: Harbor

Other Player Actions:

Turn 243/750 (980 AD) [18-May-2008 13:12:28]
Dortmund begins: Courthouse (60 turns)
Archer 8 of Berlin (Archer) promoted: City Garrison I

After End Turn:
Frankfurt grows to size 7

Other Player Actions:
State Religion Change: Suleiman(Ottomans) from 'no State Religion' to 'Judaism'
Attitude Change: Suleiman(Ottomans) towards r_rolo1 MC1 Round 4(Germany), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious'
Civics Change: Saladin(Arabia) from 'Caste System' to 'Slavery'

Turn 244/750 (990 AD) [18-May-2008 13:29:24]
Tech learned: Astronomy
Tribal village results: technology

After End Turn:
Berlin grows to size 11
Munich finishes: Spy
Cologne finishes: Archer
Essen grows to size 4

Other Player Actions:
State Religion Change: Sitting Bull(Native America) from 'no State Religion' to 'Christianity'
Attitude Change: Joao II(Portugal) towards Sitting Bull(Native America), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'

Turn 245/750 (1000 AD) [18-May-2008 13:35:04]
Munich begins: Caravel (9 turns)
Cologne begins: Taoist Monastery (6 turns)
Stuttgart begins: Lighthouse (45 turns)
Munich begins: Work Boat (5 turns)
Dusseldorf founded
Dusseldorf begins: Library (34 turns)
Cologne begins: Worker (4 turns)

After End Turn:

Other Player Actions:

Turn 246/750 (1010 AD) [18-May-2008 13:38:03]

After End Turn:
Cologne grows to size 9
Stuttgart's borders expand

Other Player Actions:

Turn 247/750 (1020 AD) [18-May-2008 13:39:36]

After End Turn:
Stuttgart grows to size 2

Other Player Actions:

Turn 248/750 (1030 AD) [18-May-2008 13:40:25]
A Mine was built near Essen

After End Turn:
Munich finishes: Work Boat

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Sitting Bull(Native America) towards r_rolo1 MC1 Round 4(Germany), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'
Civics Change: Kublai Khan(Mongolia) from 'Despotism' to 'Hereditary Rule'

Turn 249/750 (1040 AD) [18-May-2008 13:41:14]

After End Turn:
Tech learned: Education
A Hamlet was built near Cologne
Frankfurt finishes: Forge
Hsung-Nu grows to size 4
Dortmund's borders expand

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Sitting Bull(Native America) towards r_rolo1 MC1 Round 4(Germany), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious'

Turn 250/750 (1050 AD) [18-May-2008 13:42:16]
Research begun: Engineering (14 Turns)
A Farm was built near Munich
Cologne begins: Library (9 turns)
Cologne begins: Worker (4 turns)

After End Turn:
Munich grows to size 5
Cologne finishes: Taoist Monastery

Other Player Actions:

Turn 251/750 (1060 AD) [18-May-2008 13:43:49]
Hamburg begins: Archer (6 turns)

After End Turn:
Hamburg finishes: Caravel
Cologne grows to size 10

Other Player Actions:

Turn 252/750 (1070 AD) [18-May-2008 13:45:14]
A Fishing Boats was built near Stuttgart

After End Turn:
Dortmund grows to size 3

Other Player Actions:

Turn 253/750 (1080 AD) [18-May-2008 13:46:20]
Cologne begins: Library (7 turns)
Cologne begins: Archer (3 turns)
Cologne begins: Worker (4 turns)
Cologne begins: Spearman (3 turns)
Cologne begins: Library (6 turns)

After End Turn:
Berlin finishes: Mausoleum of Maussollos
Hamburg grows to size 6

Other Player Actions:

Turn 254/750 (1090 AD) [18-May-2008 13:52:16]
Berlin begins: Archer (2 turns)
Berlin begins: University (9 turns)
Berlin begins: Observatory (7 turns)

After End Turn:
Berlin finishes: Archer
A Village was built near Cologne
Frankfurt grows to size 8

Other Player Actions:
Civics Change: Saladin(Arabia) from 'Barbarism' to 'Vassalage'

Turn 255/750 (1100 AD) [18-May-2008 13:54:13]
A Cottage was built near Essen
A Pasture was built near Dortmund

After End Turn:
Berlin grows to size 12
Munich's borders expand
Munich finishes: Caravel

Other Player Actions:

Turn 256/750 (1110 AD) [18-May-2008 13:55:44]
Munich begins: Library (9 turns)

After End Turn:
Hamburg finishes: Archer
Cologne finishes: Worker
Christianity has spread: Hsung-Nu

Other Player Actions:

Turn 257/750 (1120 AD) [18-May-2008 13:57:31]
Hamburg begins: Caravel (13 turns)
Archer 11 of Hamburg (Archer) promoted: City Garrison I

After End Turn:
Hsung-Nu grows to size 5
Hinduism has spread: Dusseldorf

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Joao II(Portugal) towards Sitting Bull(Native America), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Sitting Bull(Native America) towards r_rolo1 MC1 Round 4(Germany), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'
Attitude Change: Sitting Bull(Native America) towards Kublai Khan(Mongolia), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Sitting Bull(Native America) towards Louis XIV(France), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'

Turn 258/750 (1130 AD) [18-May-2008 13:58:57]

After End Turn:

Other Player Actions:

Turn 259/750 (1140 AD) [18-May-2008 14:00:31]
Archer 10 of Berlin (Archer) promoted: City Garrison I

After End Turn:
Cologne finishes: Worker
A Hamlet was built near Essen
Stuttgart grows to size 3

Other Player Actions:

Turn 260/750 (1150 AD) [18-May-2008 14:01:54]
Cologne begins: Archer (3 turns)

After End Turn:
Frankfurt finishes: Harbor
Dortmund grows to size 4

Other Player Actions:

Turn 261/750 (1160 AD) [18-May-2008 14:04:03]
Frankfurt begins: Courthouse (30 turns)
Munich begins: Caravel (7 turns)

After End Turn:
Cologne finishes: Archer

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Suleiman(Ottomans) towards r_rolo1 MC1 Round 4(Germany), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'

Turn 262/750 (1170 AD) [18-May-2008 14:05:55]

After End Turn:
Tech learned: Engineering
Nicolaus Copernicus (Great Scientist) born in Berlin
Cologne's borders expand

Other Player Actions:

Turn 263/750 (1180 AD) [18-May-2008 14:06:43]
Research begun: Gunpowder (15 Turns)
Research begun: Chemistry (15 Turns)
A Mine was built near Cologne
A Plantation was built near Stuttgart

After End Turn:
Berlin finishes: University
A Town was built near Hamburg
Essen grows to size 5

Other Player Actions:

Turn 264/750 (1190 AD) [18-May-2008 14:08:17]
A Cottage was built near Dortmund
Berlin finishes: Academy
Berlin begins: Walls (3 turns)

After End Turn:
Munich finishes: Library
A Village was built near Cologne

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Kublai Khan(Mongolia) towards Sitting Bull(Native America), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Sitting Bull(Native America) towards Louis XIV(France), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'

Turn 265/750 (1200 AD) [18-May-2008 14:10:36]

Some useless info:

Sal stole Lib from us and has Feud. But he's teching like a snail, so he's no danger at all. Once i got cannons and frigates this will be peace of cake. BTW people, we need better EP handling ..... if Sal is a target, there is no need to spread EP evenly to everyone.

About pros and cons.....

Pro: Got astro + Education and can even ambition to Lib steel. Sal is teching bad ( maybe he's trying to compensate my EP spending on him... bad idea , considering his huge colonial maintenance )... have got the circum navigation bonus.

Cons: Not enough workers... and not enough improvements.

Next turnset I'll gun to steel and start the iron storm on someone. The Ai garrisons are completely wacked ( some AI capitols are with 2 garrison units like the KK one ). BTW KK is looking a lot like a target to me... his capitol is interesting

 

[vale]

So I did a shadow this round because I liked my save last round for peaceful expansion which is still my goal. Heres the basics of the round in case anyone is interested (think of this as the alternate universe).

Spoiler :

Start of the round, I did some diplomacy(make some resource trades, sell Monotheism to Louis and beg him for the rest of his gold, trade for calendar and start MoM in Hamburg.

I actually did no tech sales this round besides the start because the AIs never had any gold on hand.

Some interesting events:
760AD Music finished
860AD Paper finished
870AD "Coincidentally", I get circumnavigation the turn after Paper is done. Crazy.
880AD Angkor Wat done in Berlin
940AD MoM done in Hamburg
950AD Immediately burn the Artist for GA, revolt to pacifism
1000AD Trade for Machinery
1010AD University of Sankor done in Berlin
1090AD GA over (I stayed in pacifism)
1100AD Education is done
1190AD Trade for Feudalism

I got 4 new cities: Two barbarian cities and 2 settled cities. Some screenshots from my alternate universe:

Berlin with all its settled GPs:

Yes I settled 4 great people this round. The golden age + pacifism was pumping them out. There is another one due in six turns.

The new acquisitions starting with Angle:

Bactrian:

Bremen:

Duisburg:

Looks like Toku wants to mess with me, oh noes:

Looks like Kublai Khan will mess with him with some encouragement:

or:

My cities:

And their faith:

There is a hindu missionary on a mission right now and another being built in Cologne right now. I'm getting the faith spread around quite nicely.

I've started building courthouses in the old world. The number of cities maintenance is starting to add up. After Berlin finishes its courthouse, the forbidden palace can be built, but I want it on the big continent so I need to wait for someone there to finish a courthouse. I'm thinking the Rice-Ivory-Horse city will be building it after it finishes that worker.

Definitely I am going to take KK up on one of those offers into war with Tokugawa. Plan for Liberalism is to take Constitution as it will be a huge boost to my economy. Research will be Liberalism to within a turn, Nationalism, finish Liberalism take Constitution and revolt immediately (I can't wait for Taj to come online to do it and I "blew" my Artist GA already). Meanwhile, go vertical growth rather than horizontal expansion as I've claimed the spots I really set out to get this round. Economy is not crashed, but it can become a super robust economy the second I get some more infrastructure in place especially courthouses and hindu buildings.

Oh, I forgot to mention, Saladin founded Christianity relatively early in the round and nobody else got Theology until much later (and it is Toku who will be at war soon) so I think there is a pretty fair chance we will be having a Hindu Apostolic palace.

After that, Drama has to be coming online ASAP. On the big continent, I'm not too far away from bumping borders with Louis and that is going to be a huge pain if I don't have Theaters.

Interestingly, none of the AIs have released a colony yet. I'm actually kind of shocked because I thought by now it would be colony central across the world.