Most Powerful Religious Order

[Tank_Guy#3]

Of the many religious orders in the Crusades, which do you believe was the strongest?

(Before, During, and After the Crusades)

 

[ainwood]

Moderator Action: Moved to History.

 

[Perfection]

This sounds like an excellent question to go ask the very intelligent folk in the history forum.

Edit: Quick shootin' Ainwood! You beat me to the draw!

 

[jonatas]

From the perspective of Military Orders in Portuguese history and the Reconquista (ie. restricting it to the field of the Iberian peninsula, and specifically Portugal, from the Reconquista into the Descobrimentos *Discoveries*), I would say the Templars/*later renamed as the Order of Christ - Ordem de Cristo*....

can't really help you with the Levant though....

 

[Xen]

Templars at first, and later, once the Tenplars were taken out of the equation, the Hospitallers.

 

[blindside]

Were the Templars German or French?

 

[Xen]

nietherl they came from all over europe, mostlly France, Flanders, Italy and Spain, though more then a few Germans and English took part as well (though Germany was dominated by the Teutonic knights, who were involved in crushing the then Pagan Latvians in the east, but generally gettign thier asses handed back to them on a platter)

 

[blindside]

Okay second question. Why have so many different orders. Don't they essentially have the same goal?

 

[Cuivienen]

nietherl they came from all over europe, mostlly France, Flanders, Italy and Spain, though more then a few Germans and English took part as well (though Germany was dominated by the Teutonic knights, who were involved in crushing the then Pagan Latvians in the east, but generally gettign thier asses handed back to them on a platter)

You mean Lithuanians, right?

 

[Tank_Guy#3]

Though I am rarely contradictory of the Mods, I do believe this is more a question for the Off Topic forum because it pertains more to Military prowess, NOT Military history.

Though many religious orders rose and fell from power during the Crusades, my inquisition refers to all religious orders in the past and present. Many of todays Islamic terrorist groups (as we westerners refer to them), are viewed by many middle easterners as "Warriors of God", thus, also making them religious orders, as they are acting on "Gods" behalf. Though mainly to advance their cause and use Gods will as a front. And the Christian religious orders of the Crusades did the same thing, furthering their agenda and disguising it as Gods will. So this also refers to the "Religious Orders" of today. So I believe that this would more readily fit in the Off Topic category. If I had thought otherwise I would have more than willingly put this in the History Forum.

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[Tank_Guy#3]

Lithuania was mainly the Teutonic Order.

 

[Xen]

You mean Lithuanians, right?

yeah, thanks for the correction (my mind must have been wandering, lol)

 

[Xen]

Lithuania was mainly the Teutonic Order.

 

[Perfection]

So what exactly are these religious order dealies?

 

[jonatas]

So what exactly are these religious order dealies?

Basically Military organizations designed to protect Christian pilgrims (in the Levant) and to conquer and control Muslim territory, whether in the Levant or Iberian peninsula, for example.... often they took religous vows similar to monks, however they were warriors.....

as I was alluding to earlier, the Military Order of the Templars in Portugal changed after their persecution in France and were renamed as the Order of Christ. From this point on, they began to take an active interest in the exploration of the Atlantic ocean and eventually the American continents and West Africa, so you could say that the Templars were involved in the exploration of the New World and Africa, in addition to fighting in the medieval Crusades.....

 

[Ramius75]

If ur refering to a military organization motivated by religion, then it will be the Taiping rebels during the qing dynasty.

 

[Damnyankee]

I would have to say The Catholic Church from the onset of the Dark Ages to the Protestant Reformation.

 

[jonatas]

I would have to say The Catholic Church from the onset of the Dark Ages to the Protestant Reformation.

that's too broad though IMO.... he's asking about which specific orders were the most powerful... even after the Protestant reformation you have the Jesuits, who were extremely powerful......

 

[Damnyankee]

that's too broad though IMO.... he's asking about which specific orders were the most powerful... even after the Protestant reformation you have the Jesuits, who were extremely powerful......

A specific order you say... well I will have to go with the Templars

 

[TheDervish]

The Templars, before Phillip executed Order 66 on them.