MrB4...Beyond the PC Problems

We have not nearly enough units.
It would be very dangerous to attack with limited forces, I will continue the build up of our army.
GG is nice for our West-Point enabling level-6 unit.
Leeves have to be build where possible, we need to increase our production.
I will check the situation and post some toughts before playing.

Attacking Ramses AND trading with Brennus will not be possible.
 
I agree on taking just one foe at a time. My vote is for stated reasons Ramses. We should take Thebes, Memphis and Elephantine - this halves his land and should cripple him so his teching is not dangerous in future. This should be enough to secure the coal within the new cultural borders.
We could wait until Assembly line is here (10 turns), and upgrade 7-8 rifles to infantry, but with our techlead overwhelming 1-2 cities in a first strike should not be a problem, imo. Don´t forget that we only face maces, longbows and catapults from him (no horses), we don´t want to wait until he has rifles as well...

One other thing that I saw when checking the save is: Dheli has the FP and HE -> Wall street has to go to one of our westcoast cities (I guess the holy city has a lead in $). Which means we should not switch
 
Hmm, I lost somewhat track about this, did we discuss this and I forgot about it?
Did we indeed build HE in Delhi?
 
Hi guys!
I feverishly follow your game and am really thrilled what will come next- which AI battles on your side and whoich tries to backstab :crazyeye: and how you willr eact to them. I noticed some ddeficit in the discussion concerning wonders, so I share my humble analysis on this topic with you


National Epic it is in Dheli, HE is in Istanbul

National Park city can be Izmir or the to-be-founded city on the 1 tile island, not a clear must but a nice add to the game
IW is a No-Brainer with Bombay , which also would then have 2 NW (KAyseri is only second choice as it needs too much time to develope at the moment and has a certain food problem til sids sushi arrives)
West point is also a No-Brainer for Edrine
Wall Street: THe situation at the moment speaks for Ankara (has 3 Prod. more and 1 base commerce more than Konya)
Mount Rushmore can be built anywhere, so is will have to be decided when the time has come based on free NW places and Hammers
Globe theatre + question is if you have a need for it, at the moment I don´t see a pressure to build it (might arise when wartimes will be too long and theatres are built anyway)
That brings us to the WW
Eiffel Tower and Cristiano Redondo!! (easy switch between Military built up times/ commerce rush-city developing times and war times) are a clear must-have. For both I would advice to built them in production heavy cities (Istanbul, Edrine or Bombay)
Sids Sush is a clear must (and a no-brainer for the Walls street city) as we have some a decent number of food-low cities which would profit immensly from it and our specialist cites)
Broadway and Hollywood would be nice to have, too, but I would fit them only in when peace time, when theres no pressure to build up Milita and buildings

Concerning Wartimes: In your situation I would concentrate on the coal and Thebes at the moment; a nasty whole-continent-declaring-war situation is likely with and without AP, and the danger of Brennus vassalaging to Rhamses or S-Man the moment you strike is always there and nearly guarantees the continental war despite having razed the AP.
I would also not wait too long for the invasion as POwder can spoil your nasty surprise. 2-3 more cavs , rifles and cannons should do for a 1-stack shocking Rhamses to the bones and grabbing Elephantine, Thebes and Memphis invasion. More is not needed at the moment (and will be costy due to maintainance). Keep also in mind that you have to buy some AI (in to case S-man declares)

Tech strat: It looks possible that the AI will research Scientific Method (especially S-man or G-man it seems) and Democracy at the moment, so I would spare both at the moment. But the moment SM is there, I would perehaps trade for it to get Physics the first and catch the Scientist which can bulp another tech. So for the moment I would go for Assembly line and make perehaps an intermediate switch when Sci Meth is out.
Afterwards you should definitely make Sids Sushi a priority.

Hope I could help you guys and keep up the good work :goodjob:
 
Thanks for the Advice Agrippa

@ Belisar, Mr_B : I couldnt find the AI attitude grid yesterday when I opened the foreign advisor, but the tech part seemed to be up to date and ok. Can anyone confirm ths problem or find a fix for it ? Is it intentional? Today I don´t have a lot of time today to deep-search this forum for it, so if one of you could do it I would be thankful.
My version at the moment is 3.13 with the unofficial fix for it I found here
 
Solved the Problem with the glance Screen:
It's very easy to add the Glance screen back, all of the code for it still exists. They simply commented out one line to remove the tab.

edit: Sorry, forgot to mention that the file is "\Beyond the Sword\Assets\Python\Screens\CvExoticForeignAdvisor .py".

The line is:
Code:
# "GLANCE", \
at line 177. Simply remove the "#" out front and the Glance tab will be back.

Bh
Click to expand...

Another thing: Corporate Mainainance is dwarfed radically now (some say IMBA)- for example late game maintainance for Sids Sushi was about 50gpt while he made in his empire (with all the multipliers) about twice that money in the foundation city (not speaking about having 40+ cities in his empire), so Sids Sushi and either mining inc. or creative productions is a clearer must have now.
 
Just bumping the thread out of curiosity. How is your status, Belisar? Did/ can you play?
 
Some good news from my side: although I will move this Sunday, I won´t be out for playing for a long time. I purchased a mobile internet solution (€24/month with 13 Gigs free if anyone is interesteed), so the moment my PC is set up in the new flat I can theoretically play :D . I will be busy purchasing inventory, but then no TV at the moment might balance it out.

Which brings me to another issue: I understood the rounds are played and everything is set for war by you, Belisar. Please take half an hour to post the save and a short log. I am really eager to discuss invasion plans. If you don´t achieve this until we meet in person again (which will be soon), you are punished by paying a round in the bar to raise the team sprit :beer:
 
To avoid ahving to pay the next :beer: here is the report ;)

Preturn analysis:
City configuration is mostly fine but we will want to sneak in some leeves, I will start after the current
cannon in Edrine. I still think we have not enough workers (for lumbermills, railroads and workshops after
biology kicks in), maybe build some in second-line cities and we also need jails against WW.

I start by redoing the banana-for-clam deal with S-man and I also trade cows for spices with Izzy.
We get +3 health (in our big cities with grocers) and this immediately solves our health issues
(Bursa was already at -3, that's 1.5 scientists)
Then Open Borders with Brennus, get's us some additional intercontinental trade.

Our privateer fleet is really doing great. We have starved 2 cities from each Brennus and Ramses big time,
by looking at F9 at the crop yield Brennus is already reduced to ~50% :eek:

Techwise I stick with democracy.

No detailed report as this is on my laptop and MrB is eager to continue ao here is a summary.
I continued our build up with cannons and rifles. Some leeves and jails for improving the infrastructure.
Privateers continue to bring in some added benefits every turn.
I sink a lot of ships including some of Brennus, Ramses and Izzy.
Cavalry is waiting inlands (located more central in case of a surprise attack), cannons and rifles in Bombay.
We now have a Medic-3 unit for our invasion stack and can begin with the war plan.
I suggest to have a look at the save and discuss first.
Tech: we need to discuss if we take assembly line or physics next.
So, all in all I still think that we are a bit light on units for an invasion, our tech advantage
should make up for it, but don't stop building units.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/30880/MrB4_395.CivBeyondSwordSave
 
Thanks for posting. I can however not load the save ofr some reason. The message is that the save is version 575743653 or some weird long number and I can only load save versions 301 or lower, my CIV build is 313.

Please check, batt, if it´s my CIV or the file which is corrupted. Otherwise my next turns will be in my new flat, mon or tue evening or so.

Cheers and see you soon, folks!
 
I also have troubles with the save- produces some runtime error ( the Microsofr visual C++ runtime library is cited with "This application has requested the runtime to terminate it in an unusual way. Please contact the applications´support team for more information" :confused:
 
The file is corrupted, I too can not load the uploaded save.
Will try to fix that from the last autosave.
I suggest to zip our future save-files.

edit: the save is corrupted too, same error message as uploaded file. When I think back, this was the first save where I used the additional patch. I may have to reinstall.
 
Man, that is annoying! Just post when you are done. In the meanwhile you can have a look at the Planet Generator mapscript found at creation and customisation/mapscripts. Very versatile and I would like to use it for our next SGs.
 
Hi Guys
Whats the status now? Are the whole tunsets of Belisar obsolete? If yes, until when can you fix the game and shall I or MrB play the last turnsets again?
 
I'm completely reinstalling the game, the expansion and the patches, then hopefully continuing from the last autosave, I think I have to reply the last 2 turns.
 
I am just stating, that having some annoying PC problems (CPU cooler damaged) and searching for an error and exchanging some components in the process I am in a working condition again.

Waiting eagerly for some turns to play...
 
Belisar talked to me about the PC problems. My idea: For test purposes everybody should load down the pre-last savegame, play 1-2 turns and post the new save . Then we check if anybody has troubles with saves from other players. My save will be posted tomorrow

Hope we get rid of this problem ASAP
 
I played 3 turns (only for the test purposes!!!) and heres my save

Please check if you can upload and play ; I will do the same with your saves
 
I can load Batt´s save without problems.
 
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