Muslims in Space

Delegates to the conference, which ended on Tuesday, were also reminded that scientific progress used to be most advanced in the Islamic world, which gave the West algebra, the zero and Arabic numerals. It was a failure of individuals and leaders, rather than the religion, according to Syed Kamarulzaman Syed Kabeer, vice-president of the Islamic Astronomers' Association of Malaysia, that led to Islamic peoples giving up their lead.

That's BS . Both the zero and the current numeral system were of Hindu origin .
 
kingjoshi said:
The woman was Hindu. What garbs do Hindu women have to wear? :confused:


What rmsharpe meant was : what would happen if the astronaut happened to be a Muslim woman ? They are supposed , or rather , commanded to , wear the hijab . That is the garb he was talking about .
 
aneeshm said:
They are supposed, or rather, commanded to wear the hijab.

That's not true. The hijab is a recent invention that some societies have forced on Muslim women. It is in no way original to Islam, or universal within Islam either.
 
This reminds me of the age old Catholic tradition of debating how many angels can fit on the head of a needle. Pointless, stupdi, and a waste of time.
 
The Malaysia astronaut is really more for novelty than really a scientific breakthru for the nation. He is more of a Space tourist, paid to the Russian to include a Malaysian in the trip to boost the country's self esteem, one of many money spending projects to so called to raise the country's standard and pride.

Therefore it isnt a scret that the person chosen will be a Bumiputra and of coz a muslim. Rest assure that he will not be involved in many other difficult task except those that his country tasked him to perform.

This is another example of how influentially one can be affect by the religion, Just as most Christian can simply just hold their hands together to pray, the strict doctrine of islamic law required the Muslim to adhere to the strict rules and practice and pray toward the Mecca. more or less still fits well when they later found the earth to be round than flat. Strange that most muslim on the other opposite of mecca can to the direction of Mecca instead of towarding the Earth.

Same interpretation could be made in space, by generally pray towards Earth which is already hard enough.

Sadly, this also reminded me of a chapter inside the Story of "Red Mar" by Kim Stanley Robinson. Where the muslim upon arriving Mar still bring their religion to the Planet, hence spreading it further.

Although deep inside me, i wish everyone can atleast forsaken Religion once they are in space and beyond. I know its not easy at all, and still must respect everybody religious right.
 
Ramius75 said:
Although deep inside me, i wish everyone can atleast forsaken Religion once they are in space and beyond. I know its not easy at all, and still must respect everybody religious right.

Wouldn't make any sense to dump religion just because one is in space.
 
Irish Caesar said:
Wouldn't make any sense to dump religion just because one is in space.

Once human become space faring or even settling down on other planets, the thing i think we need the least is religion.

Is no coincidence that Sister Miriam Godwinson is often the 1st i seek to eliminate and destroy. :mischief: Exept the last game i had ofcoz, which she sucks up to me quite well. :lol:
 
Ramius75 said:
Once human become space faring or even settling down on other planets, the thing i think we need the least is religion.

If you believe in God, leaving the Earth won't change that. If you don't believe in God, leaving the Earth won't change that.
 
Irish Caesar said:
If you believe in God, leaving the Earth won't change that. If you don't believe in God, leaving the Earth won't change that.

I believe that as more ppl are exposed to science/facts/truth, the less religious they should be. Of coz, this is my naive thinking. :blush:
 
Babbler said:
You be praying to the model. That's idolatry. You go to hell for that.
Take a small piece of the Kabaa into space, then. That's how some book I read projects the future.
 
rmsharpe said:
Right. I'm not even sure where you'd find a female Hindu astronaut in Malaysia. :crazyeye:
You can.

Betw 6 and 10% of Malaysia's population of 26 million is Indian - the majority of whom are Hindus.
 
Urederra said:
Drop religion.

More than one problem solved.
Easier said than done.

The peculiar situation in Malaysia is that Islam is tied in with the Malay ethnic identity. By law, if you're Malay, you must be a Muslim.

IMO the Malays are insecured about their ethnic identity, hence needing to hatch on to a greater cause or something (what with all the Chinese around, who never have a problem with who they are :ack: ). Since Islam is the prevalent religion, might as well.

Can't really blame them, since the second and third largest ethnic grouping in Malaysia are Chinese and Indian, from the two great civilisations of Asia. :ack:
 
Every single minute an astronaut is in space is accounted for. They're told when to eat, when to sleep, when to excercise and exactly what work they'll be doing at any given time. Excercise is an extremely important part of their daily lives and can't be neglected. Similarly they can't remove sleeping or eating from their daily schedule either. There is a tremendous cost associated with having someone in space and if they aren't going to be working as hard as everyone else they don't deserve to go.

If they want to send a Muslim into space, that's fine with me. It would be an enormous waste of money if they prayed a majority of the time they were up there, but what do I care. As long as they do it on their own dime it doesn't effect me at all. I hope they don't go up with NASA people though because their time spent would be much less productive and it would be wasting my tax money.
 
rmsharpe said:
Right. I'm not even sure where you'd find a female Hindu astronaut in Malaysia. :crazyeye:

That reminds me of a joke: How many female Hindu astronauts from Malaysia would it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Oh.. sorry, no it doesn't.
 
Knight-Dragon said:
You can.

Betw 6 and 10% of Malaysia's population of 26 million is Indian - the majority of whom are Hindus.
I already knew Malaysia's demographic makeup. :p

But how many of them are astronauts?
 
The discussion in Malaysia should give us all an idea about why muslim countries remained backwards so many centuries. Actually a non-sense discussion, and I do not think that those theologians will reach an easy and practical conclusion but in Islam there is a saying: God is neither above in the skies(or heaven) nor in somewhere else, but God is everywhere and he/she (dunno what is God) is closer to you than the blood in your veins so it would not matter the direction you make your prayers. We, muslims pray 5 times a day (in the morning, before sunrise, in the noon, after noon, in evening and at night not 80 times:)) and aim with these prayers is being closer to God. Every faithful muslim tries to perform his/her prayers and if the mentioned astronauts are faithful then they also will try to to not to give up their prayers. Well on Earth, we have to face to direction of Mecca during our prayers (or Salat in Arabic, or Namaz in Persian) which is a tradition AFAIK but in the space this will not apply, and if I was to do my prayers I just would face Earth, I do not think that God would reject my prayers. What is important in Islam is the intention not the WAY you do it. Besides God is the most mercifull. I think I clarified some issues in my non-muslim friends:) If u have any questions about Islam, I can answer.
 
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