Terxpahseyton
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So in the first third of the last year I fell truly madly in love and in the end, she, a work colleague, dumped me for a another 20year old and smoking hot girl (bisexual, also a work colleague - yay me!), aaand it devastated me.
And then I stumbled upon a youtube video. A pick-up seminar video, as I later found out, but it was about general romance and love stuff, not pick-up as such. And this general stuff really clicked with something in me. I felt like I finally could connect some dots. And that got me hooked. But I did not go into this Pick-Up-Stuff. What I did do is stumble upon a book about the sociological, psychological, cultural and biological sexual relations of modern human beings. Basically the philosophy which underpins a lot of the game- and pick-up culture.
And that really freaking clicked with me. Suddenly everything seemed to make sense. And only weaponized with that philosophy - no actual pick-up whatsoever, just a way of understanding women and their sexual nature - I went out there and started to approach women in a to me completely new way from day 1. That was in August last year. I love this book and my son will read it when in puberty. Because I so wish I had.
Today, I still haven't learned any actual Pick-Up. I did pick up (hehe) a book, a good one I would say. But haven't finished it yet and I don't plan to study any of the routines because I don't see really the necessity or the point so far. That is a bit much perfectionism for my taste in that particular area. And I certainly don't need to hit three clubs a week to get weekly fresh supply. Maybe for that you need those routines.
But I have tried and tried and tried to apply the philosophy - and also to actually understand it. Because only experience will enable you to really contextualize things - and also to take some aspects not that serious or true as such. And it was a rocky road, a rocky transformation. I did creep out a girl or two, on the way.
But I learned. And got better and better. And I saw the evidence for my new understanding freaking everywhere. And found success. And I also learned to be responsible. Nasty thing to accidentally make a girl fall in love with you whom you are not even sexually interested in.
And today, since of recently, I am having an affair with the aforementioned now 21 year-old smoking hot girl and my great former love is more and more realizing that she fudged up when she dumped me. And I don't even care as much about that anymore. Because by mastering it I have also out-grown it.
So in conclusion: I have to say, if you ignore all the idiots out there on youtube or elsewhere, if you dig deep and actually get the underlying philosophy in all its nuance - because there is a lot of nuance if you actually want to get it and a lot of ways to not get it -, the pick-up-community got a lot of truth to say about women. That today is as evident to me as the color of the sky. And evidence beats ideology. Every time.
And funny thing is - talk to natural players. People who naturally came to be very very good with women. They will share many similar views. Because they too learned them by doing, by experience, by evidence.
I am not a player. But I understand women well, in some ways. They are no enigma by any means. And in comparison to what I was before, I sometimes feel a bit like a player, I have to admit
And then I stumbled upon a youtube video. A pick-up seminar video, as I later found out, but it was about general romance and love stuff, not pick-up as such. And this general stuff really clicked with something in me. I felt like I finally could connect some dots. And that got me hooked. But I did not go into this Pick-Up-Stuff. What I did do is stumble upon a book about the sociological, psychological, cultural and biological sexual relations of modern human beings. Basically the philosophy which underpins a lot of the game- and pick-up culture.
And that really freaking clicked with me. Suddenly everything seemed to make sense. And only weaponized with that philosophy - no actual pick-up whatsoever, just a way of understanding women and their sexual nature - I went out there and started to approach women in a to me completely new way from day 1. That was in August last year. I love this book and my son will read it when in puberty. Because I so wish I had.
Today, I still haven't learned any actual Pick-Up. I did pick up (hehe) a book, a good one I would say. But haven't finished it yet and I don't plan to study any of the routines because I don't see really the necessity or the point so far. That is a bit much perfectionism for my taste in that particular area. And I certainly don't need to hit three clubs a week to get weekly fresh supply. Maybe for that you need those routines.
But I have tried and tried and tried to apply the philosophy - and also to actually understand it. Because only experience will enable you to really contextualize things - and also to take some aspects not that serious or true as such. And it was a rocky road, a rocky transformation. I did creep out a girl or two, on the way.
But I learned. And got better and better. And I saw the evidence for my new understanding freaking everywhere. And found success. And I also learned to be responsible. Nasty thing to accidentally make a girl fall in love with you whom you are not even sexually interested in.
And today, since of recently, I am having an affair with the aforementioned now 21 year-old smoking hot girl and my great former love is more and more realizing that she fudged up when she dumped me. And I don't even care as much about that anymore. Because by mastering it I have also out-grown it.
So in conclusion: I have to say, if you ignore all the idiots out there on youtube or elsewhere, if you dig deep and actually get the underlying philosophy in all its nuance - because there is a lot of nuance if you actually want to get it and a lot of ways to not get it -, the pick-up-community got a lot of truth to say about women. That today is as evident to me as the color of the sky. And evidence beats ideology. Every time.
And funny thing is - talk to natural players. People who naturally came to be very very good with women. They will share many similar views. Because they too learned them by doing, by experience, by evidence.
I am not a player. But I understand women well, in some ways. They are no enigma by any means. And in comparison to what I was before, I sometimes feel a bit like a player, I have to admit

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