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Elephantium
Trampling the AI
lurker's comment: I know it's kind of late to be asking this, but ... can I join the game? I picked up Civ 3 Complete about a month ago, and I've been playing a ton. I'm up to Warlord difficulty so far, and I think I'll be able to move up to Regent soon.
Well, JJJspider joined not too long ago, so maybe, Elephantium! I guess we can vote on it. I vote you in!
goodsmell, you've had 5 days to play. I assume that means you don't have time to play, so you're skipped.
Pequenino: Missing
goodsmell: skipped
choxorn: UP, got it
yagtag: also missing
cody: On deck
JJJ: just played
Elephantium?
goodsmell, you've had 5 days to play. I assume that means you don't have time to play, so you're skipped.
Pequenino: Missing
goodsmell: skipped
choxorn: UP, got it
yagtag: also missing
cody: On deck
JJJ: just played
Elephantium?
Well, I don't have any reason not to let you join.
Since:
Pequenino Been MIA for over a Month.
Yagtag7 looking at his last post I think he actually drop out at that time.
I think a Revised Roster is:
Goodsmell: RL issues Skipped
Choxorn: Got It!
Cody: On Deck (should be back from Vaction)
JJJ: Just Played
Elephantium: Shy One Vote from Joining.
Since:
Pequenino Been MIA for over a Month.
Yagtag7 looking at his last post I think he actually drop out at that time.
I think a Revised Roster is:
Goodsmell: RL issues Skipped
Choxorn: Got It!
Cody: On Deck (should be back from Vaction)
JJJ: Just Played
Elephantium: Shy One Vote from Joining.
The set's done. And here it is:
Pre-Turn (1125 BC):
-Science is decreased to 70%, MM still in 10 turns.
IBT:
-Chicago: Archer->Granary (I forget why I did this later)
Turn 1 (1100 BC):
-Egypt must have researched Alphabet last turn, because I can't trade it to them anymore
Oh well, I'll just trade them Writing when they have enough money for it (right now they only have 16 gold)
IBT:
zzz
Turn 2 (1075 BC):
-archer attacks barb warrior in camp it found last turn. It kills the warrior and takes the camp. (1-0)
IBT:
-NY: Horse->Settler
Turn 3-Turn 4 (1050-1025 BC):
IBT:
-Washington: Settler->Worker
Turn 5 (1000 BC):
-Egypt now has 23 gold to offer for Writing. Getting closer...
-I establish an embassy with Egypt. Get a load of this!
Just goes to show you, AI's have poor management skills!
IBT:
zzz
Turn 6 (975 BC):
-archer vs barb warrior on hill: barb wins. (1-1)
IBT:
-several barbs approach.
-Boston: Horseman->Horseman
Turn 7 (950 BC)
-reduce science to 50%, MM still in 3.
-Horse kills a barb horse. (2-1)
IBT:
-barb warrior pillages a tile near Philly!!!
I didn't know barbs could pillage!
-barb warrior suicides vs. Horse, Horse promotes to elite. (3-1)
-Washington: Worker->archer
-Philly riots.
-strangely, MM is still comes in 3 turns after this IBT, WTH?
![[pissed]](/images/smilies/pissed.gif "Pissed [pissed]")
Turn 8 (925 BC):
-sci slider decreased to 40%, MM still in 3.
-since I'n on the domestic advisor screen anyway, I increase lux to 10% to stop Philly's riot.
-found Seattle
IBT:
-barb suicides vs. warrior in philly. (4-1)
-I get the FP message.
Turn 9 (900 BC):
-Warrior attacks barb warrior in camp, wins, promotes to vet. (5-1)
-establish embassy w/Aztecs for 41 gold. Look's like they're a little better at management than Egypt:
IBT:
-NY: Settler->spear
Turn 10 (875 BC):
-science decreased to 30%, MM still in 1.
-warrior attacks barb in camp, redlines, but beats the barb and takes the camp. (6-1)
IBT:
-We get MM: set research to Math. at 70%, we get it in 12.
Turn 11 (850 BC):
-Egypt has math! I'm glad I never traded them Writing, because I now trade it to them for Math and 1 gold
(what? every gold piece counts )
-I then trade them MM for 41 gold and their WM. Ouch, they're on a small island! They only have room for 9 or 10 cities (and they have 9)! research switched to CoL, which comes in 15 turns.
- I now trade the Aztecs Math for their WM and 57 gold. Unfotunately, I didn't get much from the map!
-The new minimap:
-I forgot why I was building a Granary in Chicago, so I switch it to a Galley, wasting 9 shields.
IBT:
Chicago: Galley->Settler
Turn 12 (825 BC):
zzz
IBT:
-barb suicides against our warrior. (7-1)
-Philly riots (again!)
-The French city of Paris builds the Oracle.
Turn 13 (800 BC):
-pop a hut, get maps.
-unhappy citizen in Philly is converted to taxman.
-build San Francisco
IBT:
-Washington: Archer->Settler
-Order restored in Philly
-Aztecs are building Pyramids.
Turn 14 (775 BC):
-warrior kills barb in camp and takes the camp. (8-1)
IBT:
-Apache raiding party kills one of our warriors. (8-2)
-Boston: Horseman->Horseman
Turn 15 (750 BC):
zzz
Endturn screenie:
-Next settle locations:
I was thinking near one of the Irons, the fish, or the gold hill(s).
-if you want a screenie of Egypt's island, I'll post it.
-use the galley to explore coastlines! Wemight will find another civ!
-any thoughts of war yet?
Here's the save.
Pre-Turn (1125 BC):
-Science is decreased to 70%, MM still in 10 turns.
IBT:
-Chicago: Archer->Granary (I forget why I did this later)
Turn 1 (1100 BC):
-Egypt must have researched Alphabet last turn, because I can't trade it to them anymore
Oh well, I'll just trade them Writing when they have enough money for it (right now they only have 16 gold)IBT:
zzz
Turn 2 (1075 BC):
-archer attacks barb warrior in camp it found last turn. It kills the warrior and takes the camp. (1-0)
IBT:
-NY: Horse->Settler
Turn 3-Turn 4 (1050-1025 BC):
IBT:
-Washington: Settler->Worker
Turn 5 (1000 BC):
-Egypt now has 23 gold to offer for Writing. Getting closer...
-I establish an embassy with Egypt. Get a load of this!
Just goes to show you, AI's have poor management skills!
IBT:
zzz
Turn 6 (975 BC):
-archer vs barb warrior on hill: barb wins. (1-1)
IBT:
-several barbs approach.
-Boston: Horseman->Horseman
Turn 7 (950 BC)
-reduce science to 50%, MM still in 3.
-Horse kills a barb horse. (2-1)
IBT:
-barb warrior pillages a tile near Philly!!!
I didn't know barbs could pillage!-barb warrior suicides vs. Horse, Horse promotes to elite. (3-1)
-Washington: Worker->archer
-Philly riots.
-strangely, MM is still comes in 3 turns after this IBT, WTH?
Turn 8 (925 BC):
-sci slider decreased to 40%, MM still in 3.
-since I'n on the domestic advisor screen anyway, I increase lux to 10% to stop Philly's riot.
-found Seattle
IBT:
-barb suicides vs. warrior in philly. (4-1)
-I get the FP message.
Turn 9 (900 BC):
-Warrior attacks barb warrior in camp, wins, promotes to vet. (5-1)
-establish embassy w/Aztecs for 41 gold. Look's like they're a little better at management than Egypt:
IBT:
-NY: Settler->spear
Turn 10 (875 BC):
-science decreased to 30%, MM still in 1.
-warrior attacks barb in camp, redlines, but beats the barb and takes the camp. (6-1)
IBT:
-We get MM: set research to Math. at 70%, we get it in 12.
Turn 11 (850 BC):
-Egypt has math! I'm glad I never traded them Writing, because I now trade it to them for Math and 1 gold
(what? every gold piece counts )-I then trade them MM for 41 gold and their WM. Ouch, they're on a small island! They only have room for 9 or 10 cities (and they have 9)! research switched to CoL, which comes in 15 turns.
- I now trade the Aztecs Math for their WM and 57 gold. Unfotunately, I didn't get much from the map!
-The new minimap:
-I forgot why I was building a Granary in Chicago, so I switch it to a Galley, wasting 9 shields.
IBT:
Chicago: Galley->Settler
Turn 12 (825 BC):
zzz
IBT:
-barb suicides against our warrior. (7-1)
-Philly riots (again!)
-The French city of Paris builds the Oracle.
Turn 13 (800 BC):
-pop a hut, get maps.
-unhappy citizen in Philly is converted to taxman.
-build San Francisco
IBT:
-Washington: Archer->Settler
-Order restored in Philly
-Aztecs are building Pyramids.
Turn 14 (775 BC):
-warrior kills barb in camp and takes the camp. (8-1)
IBT:
-Apache raiding party kills one of our warriors. (8-2)
-Boston: Horseman->Horseman
Turn 15 (750 BC):
zzz
Endturn screenie:
-Next settle locations:
I was thinking near one of the Irons, the fish, or the gold hill(s).
-if you want a screenie of Egypt's island, I'll post it.
-use the galley to explore coastlines! We
-any thoughts of war yet?
Here's the save.
Elephantium
Trampling the AI
choxorn said:Turn 7 (950 BC)
-reduce science to 50%, MM still in 3.
-Horse kills a barb horse. (2-1)
IBT:
-barb warrior pillages a tile near Philly!!!
-barb warrior suicides vs. Horse, Horse promotes to elite. (3-1)
-Washington: Worker->archer
-Philly riots.
-strangely, MM is still comes in 3 turns after this IBT, WTH?
lurker's comment: I'm guessing your Science production was almost exactly what you needed to get MM in 3 turns instead of 4, and then Philly's riot plus maybe the barbarian's pillaging robbed you of the commerce that made the difference.
Couple Things I would like to Point out.
1st: I would not have just traded MM to Egypt just for some Cash. The Reason behind this now is they MM and as you pointed out the are stuck on there little island. Now they can get off and with all of that Coast line of our island just one movement from them. We will see an influx of Egyptian settlers on our island now. Specially with Luxes down there to be had.
If we had held off it could have been much later and we might have had those lands filled in. Now we have some competion to them again.
2nd: Atlanta won't grow for 4 turns and the settlers is one turn from completion so there is a little waste going on there.
As for War no need right now
Monty is in a poor enviroment and it will take a lot of troop comentment just to cross that jungle. We also aren't in a position to go and take monty land yet.
Cleo may be an option but we need a navy. However when she does cross onto our island it might be worth it to do some capturing of towns and sue for a tech later. But there is no reason to start a War just yet. No resource to gain, No Tech, No Lux, or Land. We still have a lot of land around use and to settle first. Including a Resource and Two Luxes.
1st: I would not have just traded MM to Egypt just for some Cash. The Reason behind this now is they MM and as you pointed out the are stuck on there little island. Now they can get off and with all of that Coast line of our island just one movement from them. We will see an influx of Egyptian settlers on our island now. Specially with Luxes down there to be had.
If we had held off it could have been much later and we might have had those lands filled in. Now we have some competion to them again.
2nd: Atlanta won't grow for 4 turns and the settlers is one turn from completion so there is a little waste going on there.
As for War no need right now
Monty is in a poor enviroment and it will take a lot of troop comentment just to cross that jungle. We also aren't in a position to go and take monty land yet.
Cleo may be an option but we need a navy. However when she does cross onto our island it might be worth it to do some capturing of towns and sue for a tech later. But there is no reason to start a War just yet. No resource to gain, No Tech, No Lux, or Land. We still have a lot of land around use and to settle first. Including a Resource and Two Luxes.
JJJSpider said:
I just wanted her WM without having to trade her ours. I guess that was a bad idea, then.
JJJSpider said:
I know. I noticed that at the end of the turn.
JJJSpider said:
I was mostly asking when, not should we right now.
I guess Elephantium is in, since we haven't seen anything on the subject from goodsmell or cody, and it's been almost a week.
Regarding cody's posts: Yeah, weird. Also weird: goodsmell was up in dimalio's SG, but didn't post a got it and was skipped. But when I checked his Profile a minute ago, it said he'd been on CFC today. Maybe we can PM them for answers?
Regarding cody's posts: Yeah, weird. Also weird: goodsmell was up in dimalio's SG, but didn't post a got it and was skipped. But when I checked his Profile a minute ago, it said he'd been on CFC today. Maybe we can PM them for answers?
End Turn Screen:
Pre-turn:
Move some troops around for some MP duty in Philly Raise Lux put Taxman back to work.
MM Chicago for Growth and settler same turn.
Mustang Changed form Temple to Harbor.
IBT:ZZZ
Turn 1 (730 BC) :
Move MP duty to Philly Lower Lux raise Sci COL in 6
IBT: Some Barb Encroach upon some towns
Turn 2 (710BC):
Barbs Eliminated
IBT: ZZZ
Turn 3 (690BC):
San Fran: Warrior -> Galley
Seattle : Warrior -> Settler
Philly : Gran -> Settler
Switch Boston -> archer to avoid loses on a chop.
IBT:ZZZ
Turn 4 (670BC):
Wash: Settler -> Galley
Atlanta Settler -> Cat
IBT: Barb Red Lines Archer
Turn 5 (650BC):
NY: Cat -> Horsemen
Boston: Archer- Temple (going to get two forest chop sell after expansion)
Dispatched barb Camp
IBT:zzz
Turn 6 (630BC):
COL in Next Turn Slider Down
Chicago: Settler -> Galley
IBT: ZZZ
Turn 7 (610BC):
COL in TO Philo in 5
Established Miami
Dispatched another Barb Camp
IBT: ZZZ
Turn 8 (590BC):
Worker Moves, Fog Busting for Barbs, Exploring
Some MM for growth and overruns
IBT: Egypt Start Colossus
Turn 9 (570BC):
Establish Steely Dan by the Iron in the SW
IBT: Monty want to exchanges maps I pass.
Turn 10 (550BC):
Establish Ivory Coast in the NE
IBT: Cleo demands contact with Monty I tell her to take a hike off her island.
Turn 11 (530BC):
Wash: Galley > Settler
Philly Settler -> Settler
Seattle Settler -> Barracks
Philo: in 1 slider down
Lux down to 0%
IBT: ZZZ
Turn 12 (510BC):
Philo IN -> Republic in 24
IBT: England Complete the Pyramids
Turn 13 (490BC):
NY Horse -> Settler
Sent Galley on Sucide. Run See new Coast
See The First Aztec Archer South of the Jungle Lands
It Appears we have Two Large Empty Island North of us.
IBT: Monty Start Colossus
Turn 14 (470BC):
Mustang Harbor -> Worker MM for Growth
Atlanta Cat -> Settler
Establish SpringField in SE by the Silks
See Pink Borders no Contact but still in Deep water
IBT: Galley Lost
Egypt Establish Asyut off on our West Coast.
Turn 15 (450BC):
SF Galley -> Settler
Boston Temple -> Horse (make sure after expansion sell the temple off.)
Summary: Expansion and Exploration
Should get Iron Hooked Up.
Should Have Silks Online Soon.
Settle Red Dot To Block in Monty from the North.
Blue Dots Out West Look like nice Spots.
The Two Dots South I thinking Green mybe best. But I could not really Decide.
We Have Col and Philo to trade to Both Eygpt and Aztec just for Cash Only.
I was hoping they would get another tech to trade but they never did.
I would Probably Sell the Cheaper of the Two to Both of them.
View attachment 132940
Pre-turn:
Move some troops around for some MP duty in Philly Raise Lux put Taxman back to work.
MM Chicago for Growth and settler same turn.
Mustang Changed form Temple to Harbor.
IBT:ZZZ
Turn 1 (730 BC) :
Move MP duty to Philly Lower Lux raise Sci COL in 6
IBT: Some Barb Encroach upon some towns
Turn 2 (710BC):
Barbs Eliminated
IBT: ZZZ
Turn 3 (690BC):
San Fran: Warrior -> Galley
Seattle : Warrior -> Settler
Philly : Gran -> Settler
Switch Boston -> archer to avoid loses on a chop.
IBT:ZZZ
Turn 4 (670BC):
Wash: Settler -> Galley
Atlanta Settler -> Cat
IBT: Barb Red Lines Archer
Turn 5 (650BC):
NY: Cat -> Horsemen
Boston: Archer- Temple (going to get two forest chop sell after expansion)
Dispatched barb Camp
IBT:zzz
Turn 6 (630BC):
COL in Next Turn Slider Down
Chicago: Settler -> Galley
IBT: ZZZ
Turn 7 (610BC):
COL in TO Philo in 5
Established Miami
Dispatched another Barb Camp
IBT: ZZZ
Turn 8 (590BC):
Worker Moves, Fog Busting for Barbs, Exploring
Some MM for growth and overruns
IBT: Egypt Start Colossus
Turn 9 (570BC):
Establish Steely Dan by the Iron in the SW
IBT: Monty want to exchanges maps I pass.
Turn 10 (550BC):
Establish Ivory Coast in the NE
IBT: Cleo demands contact with Monty I tell her to take a hike off her island.
Turn 11 (530BC):
Wash: Galley > Settler
Philly Settler -> Settler
Seattle Settler -> Barracks
Philo: in 1 slider down
Lux down to 0%
IBT: ZZZ
Turn 12 (510BC):
Philo IN -> Republic in 24
IBT: England Complete the Pyramids
Turn 13 (490BC):
NY Horse -> Settler
Sent Galley on Sucide. Run See new Coast
See The First Aztec Archer South of the Jungle Lands
It Appears we have Two Large Empty Island North of us.
IBT: Monty Start Colossus
Turn 14 (470BC):
Mustang Harbor -> Worker MM for Growth
Atlanta Cat -> Settler
Establish SpringField in SE by the Silks
See Pink Borders no Contact but still in Deep water
IBT: Galley Lost
Egypt Establish Asyut off on our West Coast.
Turn 15 (450BC):
SF Galley -> Settler
Boston Temple -> Horse (make sure after expansion sell the temple off.)
Summary: Expansion and Exploration
Should get Iron Hooked Up.
Should Have Silks Online Soon.
Settle Red Dot To Block in Monty from the North.
Blue Dots Out West Look like nice Spots.
The Two Dots South I thinking Green mybe best. But I could not really Decide.
We Have Col and Philo to trade to Both Eygpt and Aztec just for Cash Only.
I was hoping they would get another tech to trade but they never did.
I would Probably Sell the Cheaper of the Two to Both of them.
View attachment 132940
OK Take a whirl Elephantium.
I think I would go Currency after Republic. However I not Sure we want to revolt right a way or not. Advice Here from a Lurker???
We still need more contacts I would go for some more Suicide Galleys
I think I would go Currency after Republic. However I not Sure we want to revolt right a way or not. Advice Here from a Lurker???
We still need more contacts I would go for some more Suicide Galleys
gmaharriet
Ancient Crone
lurker's comment: Cody posted a message in the "Out of Pocket" thread. http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4285841&postcount=108choxorn said:
@gmaharriet: Well, that explains cody, but not goodsmell. I'll check back on the out of pocket thread when he's up for his return post, but until then, leave him out of the roster.
Which is:
goodsmell: On deck
choxorn
cody: On skip for a while
JJJ: Just Played
Elephantium: UP
@JJJ: How did you play so fast? The post time says that the time between your got it and your set post was a little less than 2 hrs! Oh and, regarding city location: Make Sure to block off Monty and Cleo, and keep them seperated as long as possible!
Which is:
goodsmell: On deck
choxorn
cody: On skip for a while
JJJ: Just Played
Elephantium: UP
@JJJ: How did you play so fast? The post time says that the time between your got it and your set post was a little less than 2 hrs!
Oh and, regarding city location: Make Sure to block off Monty and Cleo, and keep them seperated as long as possible!Time wise was Easy. It just hit me on the time I normally would play. No Problem.
As For the Contact with Monty and Cleo. They can reach each other by Galley. And they both have MM. So it is just a matter of time. My guess is that they will meet each other in the next 20 turns or so. So if you see either Galley heading either way it might be time to sell that contact.
Hmm! I must have missed that message from Cody. But I see it now.
Edit:
Also the Galley that I had on West Coast I was planning on sending thur Cleo Land to do a Suicide Run off her West Coast.
As For the Contact with Monty and Cleo. They can reach each other by Galley. And they both have MM. So it is just a matter of time. My guess is that they will meet each other in the next 20 turns or so. So if you see either Galley heading either way it might be time to sell that contact.
Hmm! I must have missed that message from Cody. But I see it now.
Edit:
Also the Galley that I had on West Coast I was planning on sending thur Cleo Land to do a Suicide Run off her West Coast.
Elephantium
Trampling the AI
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