Native America Mod

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

If we do add another S.American Tribe, it will be the Toltecs.

Ok MAJOR Update:

The new patch 5.0 is ready to be uploaded...


Heres what it adds:

1. New Era-Pacific Music(Three Eras)

2. Various bug fixes and tweaks(Described above)

3. A new Government Type: Blood Cult(Orginally featured in the Mesoamerica and Age of Discovery scenerios)

4. Correct Civilipedia entries and icons for the Silent Hunter, Silent Blade, and Seasoned Brave.

5. Correct Civilipedia entires for all Government types

6. A new tech icon for both the Tribal Council and Naval Engagements technologies

7. The addition of the Delaware Civ, and their UU, the Council Guardian(Replaces Boomstickman)

I shall contact Thunderfall immediately after I post this message about Uploading it. The Upload itself will begin as soon as I get Thunderfall's confirmation, which could be as early as tommarow.

 

[jorde]

Werent the toltecs Meso American?

I was talking about adding a S American tribe, one that fills the void left in Argentina (in an American map, of course)

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

Not sure actually. I know one of the "ec" tribes was from South, and not Meso America, but I'm not sure if it was the Toltecs or the Olmecs to be honest. I'll do some research.

 

[jorde]

Originally posted by Sword_Of_Geddon
Not sure actually. I know one of the "ec" tribes was from South, and not Meso America, but I'm not sure if it was the Toltecs or the Olmecs to be honest. I'll do some research.

I think it was the Olmecs from Venezuela... but still, they're not from Argentina

 

[Balam]

Actually, the Toltecs were from Highland Mexico (Tula), fairly near Mexico City (Tenochtitlan). Olmecs are from Veracruz, Mexico too. Moche, Wari, or Nasca might work for South America though.

This mod is great--I can't believe the amount of work going into it, but please keep going Thank you for doing this (Unexisted, R8XFT, Sword_of_Geddon)!!

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

We will keep working on it until theres nothing left to fix or improve. I still need Thunderfall's confirmation to begin the upload however.

Oh and Balam, welcome to Civfanatics!

 

[Unexisted]

Both Olmecs and Toltecs were Mexican. None were South American. Maybe Zapotec? I haven't ever reasearched them, just know of them.

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

If they were South American, they should be in the mod. All we need is a decent Leaderhead for em'

 

[Balam]

Hey y'all. Zapotecs, Mixtecs, all those guys are Mexican too. As for me, I'd prefer more Mesoamerican civs from Mexico, but if you want South American, I have a list of ones from Peru down the coast through Chile:

North: Chimu (1100-1550 AD)
Lambayeque (800-1350 AD)
Moche (100-800 AD)
Cupisnique (1500-1 BC)

Central-South Coast:
Chancay (800-1550 AD)
Ica (1000-1550 AD)
Nasca (100 BC-700 AD)
Paracas (700-1 BC)

North Highlands (Andes):
Recuay (1-650 AD)
Chavin (900-200 BC)

South Highlands (Andes):
Tiahuanaco or Tiwanaku (1-1000 AD)

Huari or Wari conquered from Central Coast to South Highlands, 600-1000 AD, and Inca conquered all of these regions from 1450-1550. Anyway, Moche Tiahuanaco or Huari(Wari) would be the best probably, if you were taking civs from this region, mostly because the first two are in the Mesoamerica scenario and the third was a big player in the Andes.
If you want to go east or northeast, that's good too. I don't know much about those areas, though.

I also have another suggestion. What about the area between Mesoamerica and South America (the Intermediate Area)? There's the Lenca in Honduras and the Chiriqui in Costa Rica?

Anyway, sorry for the long-winded reply; thanks for doing this!

--Balam

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

Thats not a bad idea actually. A Meso-South American Tribe to act as the link between the two cultures! But once again, we will need a good leaderhead for them.

 

[Balam]

Hmm...I don't know how to do leaderheads, but I'd be happy to provide names, dates, info etc. on a Meso-South American tribe if y'all need it (I'm kind of an archaeology buff).

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

A city list could be useful, but keep in mind Balam that we probably won't be adding any more tribes until a leaderhead becomes availible(we've got high standards). Come to think of it, R8XFT hasn't commented on this thread in awile...

 

[Nahuixtelotzin]

One possible link between Mesoamerica and South America could be the Chibcha of northern Colombia. They're known for their gold artwork (the basis for the El Dorado myth) but are not considered part of the Andean cultures.

 

[Unexisted]

Originally posted by Sword_Of_Geddon
Come to think of it, R8XFT hasn't commented on this thread in awile...

He probably suicided!!!


I'm in a teasing mood

 

[jorde]

There probably should be a Colombian and an Argentinian tribe.. there's a lot of unused land there otherwise...

And because of land, it wouldnt be that good to have a Costarican (sp?) tribe...

(Remember, I'm always talking about an American map)

 

[Rob (R8XFT)]

I'm still here, just concentrating on a new mod, that's all....

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

Chibda eh? Sounds like a good addition. Any idea who we could use as the Chibda leaderhead?

So many Tribes, so many choices! I'm glad I'm not doing this mod alone!

Oh, and since I've had some time to work with the patch, I've changed a few things to add more diversity to the different Tribes!

1. Mesoamerican Tribal specific units, such as the Jaguar Warrior, all have the enslave ability(Like the Javelin Thrower)

2. The Incan's Inti units(Both Warrior and Champion) now have the ability to construct roads. This reflects the Incan's status as the "Rome of South America", due to their Imperial Road System they had to connect all of their cities.

3. The Incans no longer get Silent Hunters. This reflects their move refined methods of Warfare.

Some tribes did not have UU's, like the Powhatton. I was thinking of the idea of a "Unique Technology" for these tribes.

 

[Rob (R8XFT)]

Originally posted by Nahuixtelotzin
One possible link between Mesoamerica and South America could be the Chibcha of northern Colombia. They're known for their gold artwork (the basis for the El Dorado myth) but are not considered part of the Andean cultures.

Didn't Mobilize say that the masked leaderhead that Sword_Of_Geddon was keen to use would be suitable for the Chibcha?

 

[jzsf]

Is this only works with conquests? Or it is playable with too?

 

[Nahuixtelotzin]

A tribe for Argentina/Uruguay would definitely be the Charrúa, but I don't see the problem as there already are the Mapuche in, or am I mistaken?