Need some advice on completing the wonder legacy 3 times.

[peter79]

So I'm currently trying to level up Augustus and am focusing on knocking out the complete the wonder legacy path 3 times. Ive done it once already (kind of by accident).

I'm thinking Egypt is probably the best Civ with it's policy that boosts wonder production. However I find the unreliability of having a navigable river near my spawn a bit of a problem.

What are peoples thoughts, any tips on completion the wonder legacy?

 

[vorlon_mi]

Carthage can also be a good choice for an Antiquity civ, since all of your towns will be feeding your capital. You will need to have sufficient open tiles around your capital to build the wonders; navigable rivers can sometimes hinder this.

 

[peter79]

Carthage can also be a good choice for an Antiquity civ, since all of your towns will be feeding your capital. You will need to have sufficient open tiles around your capital to build the wonders; navigable rivers can sometimes hinder this.

Mmm good point. Relying on navigable rivers might be hindering me too much. Carthage is a good fit with Augustus.

 

[Leucarum]

If you are struggling then try playing on a smaller map. Fewer civs = less competition for the same number of wonders

 

[MutilationWave]

With Egypt and Hapshetsut you are practically guaranteed plenty of navigable rivers. I'm playing a game right now with 12 navigable river tiles in my capitol for a challenge and it's been really fun. It's my first attempt at getting seven wonders in antiquity.

 

[UWHabs]

Egypt was my only game where I got it, and it was only by the skin of my teeth iirc. You very quickly run out of terrain. You definitely need to be in a location where you can get some of the tougher ones that need specific terrain to have a chance.

 

[Doratov]

To build the 7 wonders, you need to get there first, so you have to excel either in science or culture. With Augustus, you probably want to play with a civ with good gold production, so you can buy the monuments in your towns. Also, Oracle is a very good wonder, a bit more contested after the rebalance, but still doable, and the culture point, plus the underestimated narrative boosts will get you the coveted wonders. Going with Greece is probably a good bet for this leader, with a focused Oracle rush.

 

[WillK96]

If you are struggling then try playing on a smaller map. Fewer civs = less competition for the same number of wonders

I have also found that the single largest variable in whether I am able to make progress on the culture tree is the map size. If you play large or huge maps, almost every civ is in the game, and they all get access to their unique wonder earlier than you do through the normal civics tree.

The legacy paths (and game in general) seems to be balanced toward the "small" map type.

 

[UWHabs]

I have also found that the single largest variable in whether I am able to make progress on the culture tree is the map size. If you play large or huge maps, almost every civ is in the game, and they all get access to their unique wonder earlier than you do through the normal civics tree.

The legacy paths (and game in general) seems to be balanced toward the "small" map type.

The larger the map, the more likely you end up with someone who's wonder-happy too. Sometimes through luck on a small map you might just not have the AI all chasing. I mean, sure, they'll get like the Theodoric Mausoleum before I even get my pantheon, but I've had some games where I can even pretend to have a chance at like a Nalanda (not that I've ever built it).

 

[WillK96]

The larger the map, the more likely you end up with someone who's wonder-happy too. Sometimes through luck on a small map you might just not have the AI all chasing. I mean, sure, they'll get like the Theodoric Mausoleum before I even get my pantheon, but I've had some games where I can even pretend to have a chance at like a Nalanda (not that I've ever built it).

For sure. I have only built the Mausoleum of Theodoric once on Standard or larger maps (on Deity), and I had an INSANELY lucky run of goody huts to boost my culture.

 

[MutilationWave]

Mausoleum of Theodoric is my wonder white whale.

 

[uppi]

I don't often get to complete it, but when I do, it is often when I least expect it. Like I am playing Amina or Ghengis, intent on conquest, but then I get a high-production start and the stars just align and suddenly I have 8 wonders. A high-production capital is a must, but I have found that you often need to have one other high-production city to build a wonder, or two, because your capital is unlikely to manage all 7 in time. Getting the right resources is also important (those which provide production and also food). But it is hard to guarantee that and you sort of depend on the AI being a bit slow to get them.

 

[UWHabs]

I don't often get to complete it, but when I do, it is often when I least expect it. Like I am playing Amina or Ghengis, intent on conquest, but then I get a high-production start and the stars just align and suddenly I have 8 wonders. A high-production capital is a must, but I have found that you often need to have one other high-production city to build a wonder, or two, because your capital is unlikely to manage all 7 in time. Getting the right resources is also important (those which provide production and also food). But it is hard to guarantee that and you sort of depend on the AI being a bit slow to get them.

Yeah, I think it's best if you have a solid enough second city, and even if it's not great, you can still often get some of the more restrictive wonders for placement. Grabbing a Petra or something there which often goes later definitely is the best way. Also trying to fit 7 into one city is just tough if you actually want to place them to help with adjacencies. Usually you just end up with too much river or water tiles.