Need some ideas for a 2nd UU

I would need to read a bit on this romah wielder to get ideas.
Any link to what kind of story those appear?
 
I found something on this website.

website said:
The Dja - the Shortest Fighting Spear

Although Egyptian spears were shorter than most spears in other armies, a shorter version still was developed from a Canaanite weapon. The Canaanites normally used two-to-three-metre length spears called romah as stabbing weapons, but also used a one-handed short spear in conjunction with a shield. This spear was little over a metre long, about four feet in total, and became adopted by Egypt as the Dja.

This spear had a slightly larger elongated leaf- or diamond- shaped blade which was also sharpened on the shorter rearward edges, so it could wound even when being pulled backwards after missing with a thrust.

Some versions also had the butt weighted with stone. This made it even more unusable as a thrown weapon, but made it a formidable close combat weapon, as the weighted end could be used to batter shields or apply impact trauma through helmets. Although intended as a single-handed weapon it was just long enough to use as a two-handed staff type weapon also.
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I could use the Dja. Since it seems to be a more close-quarters type weapon, something like 25% bonus vs. melee may be good.


EDIT: Found a bit more, from Dictionary.com:

Javelin

(1.) Heb. hanith, a lance, from its flexibility (1 Sam. 18:10, 11; 19:9, 10; 20:33). (2.) Heb. romah, a lance for heavy-armed troops, so called from its piercing (Num. 25:7). (See ARMS.)
 
Piercing lance? Shock bonus indeed is a spot on then.
Heheh, a six :strength: spearman would be on par with a basic axe then. :D
 
All that's left is Portugal. Cassadores is the uu, but I have no idea as to its bonus.
 
Good odds for retreating in battle. It seems to have been a skirmisher type of rifleman. Or do you use it as a musketman?
 
mechaerik said:
I haven't figured that part out yet. Besides, a retreating Rifleman is too similar to another UU.

But I did make a Dja: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=339837
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Mmm, perhaps give them a city raider ability (inherent or free promotion).
I've read something that they were pretty good at retaking villages from the French during the Peninsular War.

Nice speermelee unit, mechaerik. :cooool:
 
:eek:

Giving a Gunpowder unit free city raider? :eek:

That would be really overpowered.

As for an inherent city attack..... well... i'm using that too.
 
mechaerik said:
:eek:

Giving a Gunpowder unit free city raider? :eek:

That would be really overpowered.

As for an inherent city attack..... well... i'm using that too.
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Never upgraded your city raider promoted melee units to rifles then? :mischief:
Besides, to compensate you could give the unit a lower :strength:, or in case it would be a rifleman, less or no inherent ability against horse units.
 
Don't give them a free city raider promotion. Just give them a flat city attack bonus like Swordsman. +10% maybe? No more than +20%. No unit starts with CR, and for very good reason. Being able to mass produce CR3 Riflemen right out of the box is just much too much.
 
mechaerik said:
Babylonia's Sappers (replacing Axeman) start with CR I.
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is that unit just going to be called sapper? Cuz a sapper is a specific job, kinda like a combat engineer. It would be like calling it a grenadier or a sniper.

Dom Pedro II said:
Again, I generally think any unit that starts with CR I is a bad idea... but that's just me.
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Well its possible to just give it the CR1 and not make it allowed to promote down that line. But I would generally agree on not giving it CR, but it would make it more unique as the only gunpowder that gets CR.
 
Yeah, it'll be called a Sapper. I am aware that it is a Combat Engineer-type profession.

its either that or Kiškuttŭ, which probably won't show in Civ and somethin I can't actually pronounce.

Here's what I got:

The Kiškuttŭ were elite siege warfare experts. Covered in heavy scale armour and a sturdy iron helmet, these "Sappers" were ordered to charge the enemy battlements, pull down their defences and engage them on the walls and in the streets. As the first into the breach these men were picked for their bravery and skill. Carrying a broad axe they are fearsome to behold and even more inspiring to witness charging out of the siege towers and trampling the enemy. However they were not used in pitched battles due to the unique nature of their work. These troops are the elite of the Babylonian infantry and should not be thrown away lightly by indifferent commanders.
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mechaerik said:
Yeah, it'll be called a Sapper. I am aware that it is a Combat Engineer-type profession.

its either that or Kiškuttŭ, which probably won't show in Civ and somethin I can't actually pronounce.

Here's what I got:
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Well I was just thinking maybe adding somekind of adjective on the front of it, like with numidian cavalry. But then again thier other UU's name is rather uninspiring.
 
Flying Pig said:
Sapper is the name given to royal engineers in the British army, so that's probably appropriate
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Yes Im aware of that. But Im talking about his Babylonian unit. I fail to see how because the British call thier engineers sappers it would be appropriate to call a babylonian UU the same exact name. That would make it kind of the opposite of a UU.
 
I mean that sapper is a title, in english, for a job which is pretty much identical - like you might call a man with a cannon a gunner.
 
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