Nerds in Space

Great. I'm up and can play tonight.

However, we seem to be suffering from a lack of coherent strategy. Whosit advocates another war with whatsisname in the track suit. But that's all the discussion I remember about that particular proposition.

So let's open it up. We're going to space. How're we getting there? Is there anyone who looks like they'll beat us to it? Do we have five decent production cities? Do we have our National Wonders placed?

I'll open the save tonight and post more thoughts. I'll even play if we get some more opinions.

Roster:

  • Bindamel
  • Ozbenno -- OOP
  • mlinneak
  • Ruff
  • Whosit -- Just played
  • Rex -- Up now
 
hey guys! you will play with more opions ahhh? so hear are a few thoughts if you guys well scence it is nerds in space my thought would be beat Jaou II because he is closer to that then anyoone but i think you might have to watch Zara Yacoub it looks like to me he has a powerful military and he has a few boats for himself and watch out for Eytipgain and kemker culture they could culture some land away and even a few cities and yacouab could get that one city or we could get it. it looks like that can go eathier way from my piont of veiw wich is not always even good. that is all for now i hope you rock space! :goodjob: :king:
 
Okay, I've taken a look at the save and it looks like good news.

On the tech front, we're more or less at parity with the top AI, Joao. I'm very confident we can wheel and steal the tech race into our favor.

On production, we suck. However, so does everyone else. Frankly, our biggest concern is not beating the AI to space, but beating the AIs going for culture or diplo.

So, with all that said, I really don't see a screaming need to go to war. We are, though, last in power. I recommend building a bit of a better defense. The AI sucks at island hopping, so we're probably fine with a light defense. But let's at least keep it respectable.

Does anyone have a strong argument for war? I'm notoriously stupid and my analysis often sucks.
 
Hey, at least I didn't have the time to actually start the war. :mischief:

I'm not sure that we have quite enough of a production base just yet. Also, I might be biased, but Zara tends to tech well in many of the games I play. I suppose I also figure that crippling our rivals ensures that we'll get to space first . . . .

But I wholeheartedly support more discussion on what to do! I'm not even sure what National Wonders are supposed to go where. And we need more Workers. :p
 
looks like we had some cross post.

Regarding the national wonders. Mecca is both our best commerce and best production city, though Rome would pass production if any of the 8 scientists would become engineers. Rome is currently 2 turns from completing National Epic and Mecca has Heroic already. I recommend we put Ironworks in Rome and Wall Street in Mecca.

With factories and power in a few other cities (Medina comes to mind) we should have five spaceship producers. Hope we have aluminum and uranium.

Edit: Whosit, your point about Zara teching quickly is a good one. But I think we need to worry more about Joao. What good does it do us to cripple one AI while another runs away with it? And right now Joao has a DP with Hatty. Not that I'm worried about combining Hatty's might to anyone's in an islands map. I just don't want to be at war too much while we need to ramp up our infrastructure. Unless, of course, the team would like to kill everyone now, leave one AI with two ice tiles and a beaver, and take our damn sweet time learning to bang two stones together until we eventually make it to Alpha Centauri.
 
we are in nationhood ... I drafted some during my set but that might be a quick to scare up an army.
 
OK, Joao should be dealt with, too, but maybe I should clarify re: War with Zara.

His only apparent source of (land) oil is right on our borders. I'm thinking of a limited war to seize that source. It would help prevent him from becoming a military threat in the mid-term future. I see us just needing to take 2-3 cities, which are relatively lightly defended (though a Rifleman did appear near the end of my set). With a few destroyers, plus a built/drafted army, we can knock out the cities' defenses and conquer them pretty quickly, then hold out until he'll take peace. He's already at war, so he should be distracted.

Of course, another AI may trade Oil to him, but I don't know if that's a certainty.

After Zara is neutered, we can determine the best way to clip Joao's wings.

Again, the main thrust behind my idea is to secure military dominance so that we can crush Zara with ease at a later date, if we choose to do so.

Though wiping nearly everyone out has a nice ring to it. :D
 
Okay, I can support a limited war with Zara to take out his oil and, if opportunity presents itself, deal him a major setback. I'll play tonight with a goal of raising an invasion force and scouting our rivals better.
 
Blake: Obviously, you have lost your way. You are trying to recapture your history of a fine space faring nation, yet you continually bicker about who is the best ... wars or trek. Don't you know that it is a big bad world out there ... not 1 show for all, but lots and lots of shows. There are people stepping through shining rings, some in a living ship, some lost in space with a children, a bubble headed booby robot and a demented doctor ... not to mention others living on a moon that has been blown out of orbit or riding through time and space in a phone booth. Now that I mention time, there are also 5 lost souls who saw their world destroyed and were sent back in time to stop it. And then the alien lizards wearing super hot human skins turned up ... I am sure I have seen that girl somewhere else ... in a smuggling ship that is always on fire? Or was it that ring show where she thought she was a god? It has even got to the point where they are making fraking remakes of shows.
Free prize to anyone who can name all the shows I alluded to.
 
Star Wars and Star Trek, obviously. I also saw Lost in Space, and Dr. Who. Not sure about the exploded moon one. Or the others. So not many.

I don't know anything about Babylon 5, so maybe that was one of them?
 
  • "people stepping through shining rings" = stargate
  • "some in a living ship" the only one I know is Hyperion, a novel
  • "some lost in space with a children, a bubble headed booby robot and a demented doctor" = Lost in Space
  • "others living on a moon that has been blown out of orbit" = Space: 1999
  • "riding through time and space in a phone booth." = Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure
  • "5 lost souls who saw their world destroyed and were sent back in time to stop it." Wasn't that the new Star Trek movie's plot? Or every other Dr. Who episode?
  • "alien lizards wearing super hot human skins" = V
  • "smuggling ship that is always on fire?" = Firefly
  • "that ring show where she thought she was a god?" Stargate again?
  • "making fraking remakes of shows" = BSG
 
  1. "people stepping through shining rings" = stargate correct
  2. "some in a living ship" the only one I know is Hyperion, a novel wrong
  3. "some lost in space with a children, a bubble headed booby robot and a demented doctor" = Lost in Space correct
  4. "others living on a moon that has been blown out of orbit" = Space: 1999 correct
  5. "riding through time and space in a phone booth." = Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure correct & wrong at the same time!
  6. "5 lost souls who saw their world destroyed and were sent back in time to stop it." Wasn't that the new Star Trek movie's plot? Or every other Dr. Who episode? wrong
  7. "alien lizards wearing super hot human skins" = V correct
  8. "smuggling ship that is always on fire?" = Firefly correct
  9. "that ring show where she thought she was a god?" Stargate again? correct
  10. "making fraking remakes of shows" = BSG correct
Nicely done (7.5/10).
 
Star Wars and Star Trek, obviously. I also saw Lost in Space, and Dr. Who. Not sure about the exploded moon one. Or the others. So not many.

I don't know anything about Babylon 5, so maybe that was one of them?
I totally blanked on Babylon 5 ... rats. But well done getting Dr Who.
 
So, in terms of Nerds in Space, we're all doing pretty well on the space thing. Not so much the nerds.


Gonna have to rectify that.
 
Lurker note;

Beings on a living ship= Farscape
Phone box, blue police box=Dr Who?? not Dr "who's on first"
5 Lost souls sent back in time to stop world being destroyed?? Hmm I thought Battle Star Galactica, (remade version with the final 5, but No...they didn't travel in time. Got me stumped that one.

I got most, never heard of Firefly or Space 1999, so stumped me there.

Re-lurking
 
Beings on a living ship= Farscape
Phone box, blue police box=Dr Who
Correct on both counts.

I got most, never heard of Firefly or Space 1999, so stumped me there.
Check Firefly out on netflix or the like ... a great show that didn't deserve to be canceled. Totally understandable re Space 1999 ... British and shot back in the 70s. Man I am old :old:.

5 Lost souls sent back in time to stop world being destroyed??
Does this help ... The story revolves around a set of people on a routine spaceflight on August 7, 2007: four astronauts, a scientist, and a television news reporter. However, during the course of the flight, the Earth rapidly dissolves into a fiery ball, shrinks, and suddenly implodes. Before regaining control of the shuttle, one astronaut is killed. The remaining 5 crew members of the space shuttle Odyssey resign themselves to death, but a non-organic being called the Seeker rescues them. Fifty other worlds have been destroyed in the same way as Earth, but the seeker has always arrived too late to observe it or find survivors. However, this is the first time he has met survivors of such a tragedy. He offers to send them back in time 5 years (and therefore to present day, at the time of the series), so that they can prevent the disaster. In a twist, their consciousnesses are sent back and not their physical bodies, as physical time travel is impossible. The mission commander knows only a codeword associated with the disastrous event: Leviathan.

And to think that this show was shot in Canada and first run in the US. Guess that is why they canceled it.
 
Beings on a living ship= Farscape
Something that I should have mentioned re Farscape ...

Stargate SG-1 parody/homage
Following the series' (farscape) cancellation, Ben Browder and Claudia Black were both cast as series regulars on Stargate SG-1 during its final two seasons. In the 200th episode (Stargate SG-1), Black's character Vala Mal Doran pitches an idea for a movie to a producer, who immediately recognizes it as The Wizard of Oz. She then pitches a second idea the producer recognizes as Gilligan's Island. He advises her that if she is going to rip something off, it should be something more obscure. This leads into a parody of Farscape, with Black reprising her role of Aeryn Sun, and various SG-1 characters dressed as D'Argo, Stark, Chiana, and Rygel. Daniel Jackson (Michael Shanks) stands in for John Crichton, an in-joke referencing the sexual tension between Vala and Daniel on SG-1. Shanks was originally intended to play Stark, with Browder reprising the role of Crichton, but the parts were switched the day before filming at the behest of the actors. The scene also parodies the wide array of invented swear words used in the show. When the scene switches back to the real world, the producer replies that he has "no idea what that is", likely referring to Farscape's relative obscurity. Coincidentally, the announcement of Stargate SG-1's own cancellation was made shortly after this episode ran.

Ok, I am nerded out (for now).
 
I really enjoy Firefly, but I didn't catch that one because I took your clue literally (that the ship was actually on fire). Maybe if you had said "the captain of the ship kicked a goon into the engine intake."

:lol: Best. Scene. Ever.
 
The smuggling ship and the Stargate reference made it obvious, though for a second I thought "Farscape" with Black and Browder (I know next to nothing about the show, other than it was awful), but Baccarin was the "God". Interesting, she went from hooker to Messiah/God, quite a change of pace.
 
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