Daftpanzer
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No, please go ahead. I just had Macromedia Flash crash on me and I lost a few drawings
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No, please go ahead. I just had Macromedia Flash crash on me and I lost a few drawings
North King
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Good luck with that...
Ice Aurora: North King
Evolved from: Silver Aurora
Survival Status: Thriving
Genes (33): Eating Dead Things x1, Complex Stomach x1, Flesh eating x3, Insect Eating x1, Lungs x3, Vibration Sense x1, Eyes x3, Flying x5, Feathers x3, Walking x1, Talons x2, Jaws x1, Cartilage x1, Skeleton x2, Water Retention x2, Cold Resistance x2, Brain Power x1, Tough Eggs x1, Parenting Instinct x1
Description: The majestic, cold peaks of Asmara are a frigid world, nearly inaccessible in many places. By foot, anyway. By air, they are magnificent sights, and it is here that the Ice Aurora dwells: among the glaciers and the ice of the clouds. Adapted against cold and thin air, its cry carries far: the cry that heralds the kings of the sky.
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Ice Aurora: North King
Evolved from: Silver Aurora
Survival Status: Thriving
Genes (33): Eating Dead Things x1, Complex Stomach x1, Flesh eating x3, Insect Eating x1, Lungs x3, Vibration Sense x1, Eyes x3, Flying x5, Feathers x3, Walking x1, Talons x2, Jaws x1, Cartilage x1, Skeleton x2, Water Retention x2, Cold Resistance x2, Brain Power x1, Tough Eggs x1, Parenting Instinct x1
Description: The majestic, cold peaks of Asmara are a frigid world, nearly inaccessible in many places. By foot, anyway. By air, they are magnificent sights, and it is here that the Ice Aurora dwells: among the glaciers and the ice of the clouds. Adapted against cold and thin air, its cry carries far: the cry that heralds the kings of the sky.
tuxedohamm
Disguised as crow.
You misnamed your final product there, NK.
North King
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Heh. Thanks, nice catch.
You mean 'Eukaryote', not 'Prokaryote'.Welcome, bestshot9!
The Yellow Bathysplate looks good - and yes, it is probably better and more logical to evolve from something similar to what you wanted, rather than try to build it from scratch.
Anything that doesn't move in its adult form, I've called a 'plant'. I realise that doesn't really make sense, its just for simplicity's sake in this NES.
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If you'd like, I know the things that an organism has to meet to be considered a plant, animal, and fungus.
plant: multicellular prokaryotic autotroph with cell walls (means multicelluar organism, each cell has a nucleus and cell walls, and it makes its own food.)
fungus: multicellular prokaryotic heterotroph with cell walls (means multicellular organism, each cell has a nucleus, cell walls, but doesn't make its own food.)
animal: multicellular prokaryotic heterotroph without cell walls (means multicellular organism, each cell has nucleus but no cell walls, and doesn't make its own food.)
so by that definition the bathysphere would be either a fungus or an animal (depending on whether or not it has cell walls, do you know? lol)
I agree that plant and animal are arbitrary definitions... as I have said before.
You've misrepresented protista. Protists are just single-celled Eukaryotic lifeforms.The base definition of eating would be on a larger scale than phagocytosis. However, when I talk about "eating" in quotation marks it generally means taking in anything that is in the form of matter.
The real difference in plants and animals is how they obtain glucose. Animals and fungii obtain it from the eating of other organisms and the breakdown of their sugars, proteins, fats, etc. Plants gain it from photosynthesis. If it is not gained in one of these ways, even if it is multicellular, it will be put in the Protista Kingdom. And this time I am sure.
That is the most outrageously wrong biological statement I have ever heard. Their are vast differences between plants and animals. The base difference, however, is in the method of obtaining glucose, which is used in the rejuvenation of ATP, which is used to help lower the effort to perform chemical reaction, which allows life to exist by fighting entropy. Plants obtain glucose through photosynthesis, the storing of sun energy into glucose, while animals gain it through organic consumption and the subsequent breakdown of the organic particles of the organisms they consume. Other differences are there, but not necessary for the distinction. This is the main difference, although mobility and a few others are important as well.
I hope this clears up some questions from some people...
In fact, the majority of DNA is similar, from bacteria all the way to humans. However, the majority of DNA is also blank space that makes no difference in the overall organism, and what few similar genes there are in organisms are for the production of a very small number of necessary proteins, such as phosphofructokinase.
No, they couldn't. Venus flytraps, and Sundews, the best-known moving predatory plants, have no intelligence whatsoever. The Venus functions like a mousetrap, with 'sensor' hairs. The Sundew simply changes shape and curls up the trapped insect, by having its leaves change shape. Evolving a brain would be such an energy loss that it would go extinct if there was any competition whatsoever.
To summarize: Every definition is arbitrary, you could theoretically have a mobile, 'animal' organism which augments its energy income with 'plant' structures on its back, like the Garden Worms from 'The Future is Wild'. We just create definitions because it makes organizing things possible.
Fuschia
A Little Odd
This is not true. Many orders of the Protista Kindom include multicellular creatures, be they slime molds or various types of non-photosynthetic algae. I would provide a link or something, but I'm too lazy...
ya ya lol sorry i always get prokaryote and eukaryote mixed up... embarrasing lmao.
but ya the whole thing is just so we can organize stuff, i was just trying to give the largely accepted biological definitions of the different types of organisms.
and if there were an organism that photosynthized and fed on other organisms, then it would probably get classified in its own kingdom. (not counting stuff like coral and such that have photosynthizing organisms that live inside of them, because that's just symbiosis between two differen't species, i'm talking if an organism was all one organism that had the ability to eat organic materials and photosynthize, but that wasn't a colony of organisms living on an animal's back.)
but ya the whole thing is just so we can organize stuff, i was just trying to give the largely accepted biological definitions of the different types of organisms.
and if there were an organism that photosynthized and fed on other organisms, then it would probably get classified in its own kingdom. (not counting stuff like coral and such that have photosynthizing organisms that live inside of them, because that's just symbiosis between two differen't species, i'm talking if an organism was all one organism that had the ability to eat organic materials and photosynthize, but that wasn't a colony of organisms living on an animal's back.)
North King
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Colonial algae and bacteria perhaps? All protists are capable of surviving and reproducing as single cells.This is not true. Many orders of the Protista Kindom include multicellular creatures, be they slime molds or various types of non-photosynthetic algae. I would provide a link or something, but I'm too lazy...
Yeah, and Lichens too.
Where to slime molds fit? I'm keeping one of them as a pet in my bedroom window. Now, is it a pet, or a houseplant?
It's all arbitrary!
Fuschia
A Little Odd
No. No they're not.
Also no.
Slime molds are part of the Protista Kingdom.
No, no it isn't. I can agree that their a number of new kingdoms might be needed to help redistribute the over-crowding of the Protista Kingdom, but to say that we just make up random classifications for organisms when their are clear, biological differences is absurd.
EDIT: As I am not capable of knowing which method of classification North King and Iggy are referring to, I will say this: by Kingdom I mean highest level of classification. Domains come above kingdoms in many classification systems, so we would have to clarify exactly which system we will be referring to, be it the Two Domain(Eukaryota and Prokaryota), Three Domain(Eubacteria, Archaebacteria, Eukaryota) or Six Kingdom(Animal, plant, fungii etc.) system.
North King
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SARCASM.
I was joking about Lichens, and yes, any sort of biological division is inherently arbitrarily based upon the situation of our own planet. I'm not saying that traditional definitions are wrong, just that they do not apply to every system. On Earth, plant/animal worked quite well for most relevant life. Things that grow in the ground and don't move quickly are plants, things that move around are animals. However, as we discovered more and more, we made more and more divisions to explain the specific things we saw. On Delta Panzerus, there are a lot of creatures which come near or exist in the plant/animal overlap, as it is defined by us.
lol nvm i don't know how to explain myself seems like all i'm doing is pissing people off xP sorry for joining this nes bye!
Daftpanzer
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bestshot9 said:
Im not upset in the slightest. Im learning from this discussion (even if it is getting a bit irrelevant with respect to the actual NES
)oh... sorry lol hard for me to tell when people are mad or not when i'm on forums, i'm used to forums where people act like their idea is the only logical one and any other is completely idiocy and that the person who proposed it is an idiot for believing that, so that's the way i usually interpret discussions on forums. glad to see that this one is actually mature so i guess i'll stick around this game looks like alot of fun, i just wish i could have started out in the beginning and had my own family like alot of other people here
this game looks like alot of fun, i just wish i could have started out in the beginning and had my own family like alot of other people here
tuxedohamm
Disguised as crow.
Just find something that's interesting and make your own branch. In a few updates you'll have something distinctly your own.
Yeah, that's what happened with the Duplers a few rounds ago. They were an incredible set of beasts, evolved from an unassuming, unspecialized sea crawler.
Even my Scuterytes, which are about as Iggyesque as they get, are evolved from Slavic_Sioux' Huhuwanapi los Terrios.
Even my Scuterytes, which are about as Iggyesque as they get, are evolved from Slavic_Sioux' Huhuwanapi los Terrios.
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