Never Before Seen Civs - Elimination Game

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Algonquian (Any) 10
Armenians 22
Ashanti 22
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 18
Bohemians/Czechs/Great Moravia 15
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 12
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 20
Hebrews 24
Irish/Scottish 3 - 3 = ELIMINATED There's better choices for Celtic civs
Maori/Other Polynesians 23 + 1 = 24 Polynesians should return, albeit as either the Maori or the Hawaiians
Nazca/Moche/Muisca/Other Andean 6
Nepalese 18
Olmecs/Mixe-Zoque/Other Mesoamerican 13
Phoenicians 20
Sabaeans/Himyarites/Yemen 17
Swahili/Kilwa 24
Tamil/Chola/Sri Lankans 18
Tibetans 11
Ukrainians/Kievan Rus/Cossacks 12
Vietnamese 16
Zimbabweans 14
 
Algonquian (Any) 10
Armenians 22
Ashanti 22
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 18
Bohemians/Czechs/Great Moravia 15
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 12+1=13 We need at least one Celtic representative in the game.
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 20
Hebrews 24
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nazca/Moche/Muisca/Other Andean 6
Nepalese 18-3=15 Would rather have Tibet.
Olmecs/Mixe-Zoque/Other Mesoamerican 13
Phoenicians 20
Sabaeans/Himyarites/Yemen 17
Swahili/Kilwa 24
Tamil/Chola/Sri Lankans 18
Tibetans 11
Ukrainians/Kievan Rus/Cossacks 12
Vietnamese 16
Zimbabweans 14
 
Algonquian (Any) 10
Armenians 22
Ashanti 22
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 18
Bohemians/Czechs/Great Moravia 15
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 13
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 20
Hebrews 24
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nazca/Moche/Muisca/Other Andean 6
Nepalese 15
Olmecs/Mixe-Zoque/Other Mesoamerican 13
Phoenicians 20
Sabaeans/Himyarites/Yemen 17
Swahili/Kilwa 24
Tamil/Chola/Sri Lankans 18
Tibetans 11+1=12 let's give Tibet a chance
Ukrainians/Kievan Rus/Cossacks 12-3=9 prefer Russia
Vietnamese 16
Zimbabweans 14
 
Algonquian (Any) 10
Armenians 22
Ashanti 22
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 18
Bohemians/Czechs/Great Moravia 15
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 13
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 20
Hebrews 24
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nazca/Moche/Muisca/Other Andean 6
Nepalese 15
Olmecs/Mixe-Zoque/Other Mesoamerican 13
Phoenicians (20-3)=17 I second Zaarin's statement, their known kings aren't too interesting (or rather details of their reign are lacking). I rather Carthage return as a Civ, and Tyre/Sidon/Byblos/Ugarit be implemented as City States.
Sabaeans/Himyarites/Yemen 17
Swahili/Kilwa 24
Tamil/Chola/Sri Lankans 18
Tibetans (12+1)=13 Possibly, this could be a DLC sold only in North America/Europe/Australia/NZ. Being of Chinese descent, I bear no ill will towards Tibetans. Their history and culture deserve representation in Civ.
Ukrainians/Kievan Rus/Cossacks 9
Vietnamese 16
Zimbabweans 14
 
Algonquian (Any) 10
Armenians 22
Ashanti 22
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 18
Bohemians/Czechs/Great Moravia 15
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 13
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 20
Hebrews 24
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nazca/Moche/Muisca/Other Andean 6
Nepalese 15
Olmecs/Mixe-Zoque/Other Mesoamerican 13
Phoenicians 17
Sabaeans/Himyarites/Yemen 17
Swahili/Kilwa 24
Tamil/Chola/Sri Lankans 18
Tibetans 13-3=10 Represented by China.
Ukrainians/Kievan Rus/Cossacks 9+1=10 Just like UkrNixon said, saying Kievan Rus can be folded into Russia Is just like Saying Portugal can be folded into Spain, or Greece and the Byzantine can be folded into Italy. It won't make sense.

Vietnamese 16
Zimbabweans 14
 
Tibetans 13-3=10 Represented by China.
Ukrainians/Kievan Rus/Cossacks 9+1=10 Just like UkrNixon said, saying Kievan Rus can be folded into Russia Is just like Saying Portugal can be folded into Spain, or Greece and the Byzantine can be folded into Italy. It won't make sense.

Or like saying Tibet can be folded into China...
 
Algonquian (Any) 10
Armenians 22
Ashanti 22
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 18
Bohemians/Czechs/Great Moravia 15
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 13
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 20
Hebrews 24
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nazca/Moche/Muisca/Other Andean 6
Nepalese 15+1=16
Olmecs/Mixe-Zoque/Other Mesoamerican 13
Phoenicians 17
Sabaeans/Himyarites/Yemen 17-3=14
Swahili/Kilwa 24
Tamil/Chola/Sri Lankans 18
Tibetans 10
Ukrainians/Kievan Rus/Cossacks 10
Vietnamese 16
Zimbabweans 14

Birthplace of The Buddha, home of the Gurkha Soldiers, unique culture between two constant superpowers, easy mountain bonuses, plenty of opportunities for unique religious buildings, natural wonders galore, and of course the all important "Big Personalities" is easily taken care of by Prithvi Narayan Shah the relentless conqueror/unifier who brute forced dozens of warring city states into an internally stable and solidified empire ready to take on the British.

As for Yemen... meh? I prefer Ethiopia and Aksum in that region and I really am not interested in the area much to begin with apart from my continued fascination with Somalia (I have a morbid obsession with one of the modern world's most spectacularly failed states).
 
Algonquian (Any) 10
Armenians 22
Ashanti 22
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 18
Bohemians/Czechs/Great Moravia 12 (15 - 3) Being one out of seven electors in a single empire, even an important one, isn't a particularly strong claim to prominence in a game aiming to depict the entirety of human history. And while I understand that the Holy Roman Empire was a loose confederation and that Bohemia had a large degree of independence within it, I still think that adding individual HRE states to a game with an HRE focused Germany seems unnecessarily redundant. It would be the European equivalent of including the Iroquois in the base game but then adding the Onandaga (one of the six nations making up the Iroquois Confederacy) as a separate civ.
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 13
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 20
Hebrews 24
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nazca/Moche/Muisca/Other Andean 7 (6 + 1) Any of these would add a ton of variety to the game, as only the second native South American civ ever to be featured, and I'd be particularly interested in seeing a Nazca lines UI.
Nepalese 16
Olmecs/Mixe-Zoque/Other Mesoamerican 13
Phoenicians 17
Sabaeans/Himyarites/Yemen 14
Swahili/Kilwa 24
Tamil/Chola/Sri Lankans 18
Tibetans 10
Ukrainians/Kievan Rus/Cossacks 10
Vietnamese 16
Zimbabweans 14
 
Algonquian (Any) 10
Armenians 22
Ashanti 22
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 18-3=15 (not the most significant West African empire)
Bohemians/Czechs/Great Moravia 12
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 13
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 20
Hebrews 24
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nazca/Moche/Muisca/Other Andean 7
Nepalese 16
Olmecs/Mixe-Zoque/Other Mesoamerican 13
Phoenicians 17
Sabaeans/Himyarites/Yemen 14
Swahili/Kilwa 24
Tamil/Chola/Sri Lankans 18
Tibetans 10
Ukrainians/Kievan Rus/Cossacks 10+1 (I shall not let it fall so easily)
Vietnamese 16
Zimbabweans 14
 
Or like saying Tibet can be folded into China...
Tibet is part of China that's what I meant to say. Sure they're different but still part of them. Maybe I got it wrong but I was thinking they have similar enough history, and I never new they were a separate country. Were they?
 
Tibet is part of China that's what I meant to say. Sure they're different but still part of them. Maybe I got it wrong but I was thinking they have similar enough history, and I never new they were a separate country. Were they?
Tibet was independent until 1950 when the PRC invaded and annexed the region, you should see the film "7 years in Tibet" there they analyse how awful was the invasion of Tibet by the Chinese.
And Ukraine or the Kievan rus territories weren't independent until 1990.
 
Oh, ok. Sorry for assuming that. Also Kievan Rus Territories did gain independence as the Cossack Hetmanate (I think I spelled it wrong but whatever) sometime after the end of the medieval ages and the beginning of the widespread use of gunpowder.
 
Algonquian (Any) 10 - 3 = 7 I'm not particularly interested in them now.
Armenians 22
Ashanti 22
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 15 + 1 = 16 Benin is one of the most interesting African civs not yet included. This can not fall now.
Bohemians/Czechs/Great Moravia 12
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 13
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 20
Hebrews 24
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nazca/Moche/Muisca/Other Andean 7
Nepalese 16
Olmecs/Mixe-Zoque/Other Mesoamerican 13
Phoenicians 17
Sabaeans/Himyarites/Yemen 14
Swahili/Kilwa 24
Tamil/Chola/Sri Lankans 18
Tibetans 10
Ukrainians/Kievan Rus/Cossacks 11
Vietnamese 16
Zimbabweans 14
 
Algonquian (Any) 7
Armenians 22
Ashanti 22
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 16
Bohemians/Czechs/Great Moravia 12+1=13 - @Amrunril, if Bohemia can't be in game because HRE themed Germany is there, then why do we have India, Australia and USA when we have England resembling the English colonial empire? And I have to say, Bohemia and Germany are two completely different countries. Bohemia is a Slavic country, Germany is a Germanic country. Language of Bohemia is (was?) Czech, language of Germany is German. Language of all England, Australia and USA is English, they are quite similar countries and they were all under English empire, and they are all in game, so I don't see a reason why two different countries that were in one union shouldn't be in game. I'd love to start upvoting something else, but I simply can't, because my homeland is in constant danger.
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 13
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 20
Hebrews 24
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nazca/Moche/Muisca/Other Andean 7-3=4 - They seem to be the next. Also, the best Andean Civ are Incas, and we all know that Firaxis will add them at some point, since they are one of the most desired Civs, and I don't feel a strong need for more than one Andean Civ.
Nepalese 16
Olmecs/Mixe-Zoque/Other Mesoamerican 13
Phoenicians 17
Sabaeans/Himyarites/Yemen 14
Swahili/Kilwa 24
Tamil/Chola/Sri Lankans 18
Tibetans 10
Ukrainians/Kievan Rus/Cossacks 11
Vietnamese 16
Zimbabweans 14
 
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Algonquian (Any) 7
Armenians 22
Ashanti 22
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 16
Bohemians/Czechs/Great Moravia 13
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 14 (13 + 1) A better representation of the Celts than what we had in previous games.
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 20
Hebrews 24
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nazca/Moche/Muisca/Other Andean 4
Nepalese 16
Olmecs/Mixe-Zoque/Other Mesoamerican 13
Phoenicians 17
Sabaeans/Himyarites/Yemen 14
Swahili/Kilwa 24
Tamil/Chola/Sri Lankans 18
Tibetans 10
Ukrainians/Kievan Rus/Cossacks 8 (11 - 3) I don't find them that interesting of a concept for a civ.
Vietnamese 16
Zimbabweans 14
 
Algonquian (Any) 7
Armenians 22
Ashanti 22
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 16
Bohemians/Czechs/Great Moravia 13
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 14
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 20
Hebrews 24
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nazca/Moche/Muisca/Other Andean 4
Nepalese 16
Olmecs/Mixe-Zoque/Other Mesoamerican 14 (13 + 1) The Olmecs deserve to stay a little longer.
Phoenicians 17
Sabaeans/Himyarites/Yemen 14
Swahili/Kilwa 24
Tamil/Chola/Sri Lankans 18
Tibetans 10
Ukrainians/Kievan Rus/Cossacks 5 (8 - 3) A region which is already quite crowded and to be frank, it's not a civilisation I overly care to see in the game myself.
Vietnamese 16
Zimbabweans 14
 
Algonquian (Any) 7
Armenians 22
Ashanti 22
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 16
Bohemians/Czechs/Great Moravia 13
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 14+1=15 Gaul would make for a much better interpretation of the Celts. Bring on Vercingetorix!
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 20
Hebrews 24
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nazca/Moche/Muisca/Other Andean 4
Nepalese 16-3=13 I'm simply more interested in seeing Tibet in this region.
Olmecs/Mixe-Zoque/Other Mesoamerican 14
Phoenicians 17
Sabaeans/Himyarites/Yemen 14
Swahili/Kilwa 24
Tamil/Chola/Sri Lankans 18
Tibetans 10
Ukrainians/Kievan Rus/Cossacks 5
Vietnamese 16
Zimbabweans 14
 
Algonquian (Any) 7
Armenians 22
Ashanti 22
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 16
Bohemians/Czechs/Great Moravia 13
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 15
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 20
Hebrews 24
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nazca/Moche/Muisca/Other Andean 4
Nepalese 13
Olmecs/Mixe-Zoque/Other Mesoamerican 14
Phoenicians 17
Sabaeans/Himyarites/Yemen 14
Swahili/Kilwa 24
Tamil/Chola/Sri Lankans 18
Tibetans 10+1=11 giving a chance to Tibet
Ukrainians/Kievan Rus/Cossacks 5-3=2 not interested
Vietnamese 16
Zimbabweans 14
 
Guys, how is Ukrainian region crowded? We have Russia, which has a capital quite a bit to the north, and Poland, which is quite a bit to the west. Meanwhile, Olmecs are right next door to Aztecs and Maya, and Gauls/Britons are entirely covered by France/England.
And lets be fair, no matter how hard we want Tibet, it's NEVER happening in Civ franchise because its addition as a separate civ would mean an automatic ban in China. And no way cheapskates that are 2k will allow a loss of such a huge market.
 
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Guys, how is Ukrainian region crowded? We have Russia, which has a capital quite a bit to the north, and Poland, which is quite a bit to the west. Meanwhile, Olmecs are right next door to Aztecs and Maya, and Gauls/Britons are entirely covered by France/England
And lets be fair, no matter how hard we want Tibet, it's NEVER happening in Civ franchise because its addition as a separate civ would mean an automatic ban in China. And no way cheapskates that are 2k will allow a loss of such a huge market.

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Algonquian (Any) 7
Armenians 22
Ashanti 22
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 16
Bohemians/Czechs/Great Moravia 13
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 15
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 20
Hebrews 24
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nazca/Moche/Muisca/Other Andean 4
Nepalese 13
Olmecs/Mixe-Zoque/Other Mesoamerican 14
Phoenicians 18 (17+1) clear winner, Carthage could be a part and the capital, since long time no market;)
Sabaeans/Himyarites/Yemen 14
Swahili/Kilwa 21 (24-3) no need, bad market
Tamil/Chola/Sri Lankans 18
Tibetans 11
Ukrainians/Kievan Rus/Cossacks 2
Vietnamese 16
Zimbabweans 14
 
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