Never Before Seen Civs - Elimination Game

[Kimiimaro]

Ashanti 18
Babylonians 19
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 16
Ethiopians 19
Georgians 20
Hebrews 2+1=3 - I still think that Hebrew Civ could make a very interesting addition...
Hittites 4
Incas 22
Khmer 24
Koreans 21
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 15
Mayans 24
Mongols 22
Ottoman Turks 15
Tibetans 7-3=4 - First, it's unlikely to appear. Second, there are many Asian Civs I prefer to show up before them. Tibet may be interesting, but I'm not very enthused about it.

 

[luigilime]

Ashanti 18
Babylonians 19+1=20
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 16
Ethiopians 19
Georgians 20
Hebrews 3-3=0 ELIMINATED there are better options for the middle East
Hittites 4
Incas 22
Khmer 24
Koreans 21
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 15
Mayans 24
Mongols 22
Ottoman Turks 15
Tibetans 7-3=4

 

[Guandao]

Ashanti 18
Babylonians 20
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA (16+1)=17 I see that someone took a shot at Ethiopia, but my vote goes to the Creek this time. I think they can be a good alternate to the Iroquois returning again. They are descendants of the Mississippians, one of the socially complex societies north of Mesoamerica.
Ethiopians 19
Georgians 20
Hittites (4-3)=1 The fact that they've made it this far is admirable, but it's time for them to go. I just don't want an Akkadian speaking Hittite leader, and Ottomans take more precedence for that specific region.
Incas 22
Khmer 24
Koreans 21
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 15
Mayans 24
Mongols 22
Ottoman Turks 15
Tibetans 4

 

[Siptah]

Hittites (4-3)=1 The fact that they've made it this far is admirable, but it's time for them to go. I just don't want an Akkadian speaking Hittite leader, and Ottomans take more precedence for that specific region.

Sorry to interrupt, but I wonder why you think it is hard to find people that know Luwian or Neshite? In the last decades, many universities started to treat Hittitology as a separate field from the Assyriology in which it was implemented before. You can easily find universities that offer courses (in the Netherlands even in English for example, which is rare since it is such an unenglish field, which is also why you may not know about it) as a major and the main focus are the two languages of course. Every university of those has some schooled graduates each year, so there are enough possibilities to find someone if you look for it. The pronunciation reconstruction is, as with almost all antique languages, a bit shaky and relies to some extent on chance and speculation. But that isn't different for Middle Egyptian, Akkadian or Mayan - one can even make the case for Greek and Quechua if you want to be pernickety. Not wanting you to change your votes in the future, just saying.

 

[God of Kings]

Ashanti 18
Babylonians 20
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 19
Georgians 20
Hittites 1 - 3 = ELIMINATED There's better choices
Incas 22
Khmer 24
Koreans 21
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 15
Mayans 24
Mongols 22 + 1 = 23 Civ staple
Ottoman Turks 15
Tibetans 4

 

[Guandao]

Sorry to interrupt, but I wonder why you think it is hard to find people that know Luwian or Neshite? In the last decades, many universities started to treat Hittitology as a separate field from the Assyriology in which it was implemented before. You can easily find universities that offer courses (in the Netherlands even in English for example, which is rare since it is such an unenglish field, which is also why you may not know about it) as a major and the main focus are the two languages of course. Every university of those has some schooled graduates each year, so there are enough possibilities to find someone if you look for it. The pronunciation reconstruction is, as with almost all antique languages, a bit shaky and relies to some extent on chance and speculation. But that isn't different for Middle Egyptian, Akkadian or Mayan - one can even make the case for Greek and Quechua if you want to be pernickety. Not wanting you to change your votes in the future, just saying.

I just see Firaxis using Old Akkadian for a Sumerian leader and think, maybe they can't find someone to do Hittite or Luwian language dialogue either. Unless Sumerian experts are less common than Hittite/Luwian experts for some reason. Strangely, they were able to get someone to write actual Sumerian dialogue for the units in Civ4.
I wondered why they never brought back the Hittites since Civ3, and thought maybe it was due to the language issue.

 

[Zaarin]

Finding someone with a decent knowledge of an Anatolian language shouldn't be hard, but then again finding someone with a decent knowledge of Sumerian should be much easier (after all, the only language that the Sumerian cuneiform really fit well was Sumerian). I'd love to see the Hittites, but I do understand Guandao's concern about how they might be portrayed after the very dubious portrayal of the Sumerians, a civ with much more information available than the Hittites. Although strictly speaking a Hittite leader speaking Akkadian would be much less anachronistic than Gilgamesh doing so...

 

[Morningcalm]

Ashanti 18
Babylonians 20
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 19
Georgians 20
Incas 22
Khmer 24
Koreans 21
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 15 + 1 = 16 (Far too interesting and distinct as a culture to be eliminated now. Also, their music would be among the best in the game, as would their unique art as represented in their unique infrastructure and unique unit.)
Mayans 24
Mongols 23
Ottoman Turks 15 - 3 = 12 (Boring in every Civ game despite their amazing history. In which Civ game were they ever fun to play? They were more interesting in Age of Empires III, but I doubt that in the context of Civ the Ottoman military can be anything exceptional given how many warrior kings and civs we have in already.)
Tibetans 4

 

[Zaarin]

Ashanti 18
Babylonians 20
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 19
Georgians 20
Incas 22
Khmer 21 (24 - 3) -- They're far from the most interesting civ on this list.
Koreans 22 (21 + 1) -- I eagerly await their return.
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 16
Mayans 24
Mongols 23
Ottoman Turks 12
Tibetans 4

 

[The Kingmaker]

Ashanti 18
Babylonians 20+1=21 Top 10 material. All the more expedient because of Sumeria's poor showing this time.
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 19
Georgians 20-3=17 Tamar, do I dare spurn thee? All these choices are hard.
Incas 22
Khmer 21
Koreans 22
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 16
Mayans 24
Mongols 23
Ottoman Turks 12
Tibetans 4

 

[Amrunril]

Ashanti 18
Babylonians 18 (21 - 3) A fine choice (all of them are at this point), but it adds less variety, compared to the current roster and past games, than most of the other options.
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 19
Georgians 17
Incas 23 (22 + 1) It's telling that the most common downvote reason for this civ, in this thread and the returning civs thread, has been that it's winning. Not "It's winning and doesn't deserve to be." Not even "It's winning and doesn't deserve to be by this much." Just "It's winning." Well, it isn't winning now, but it very much deserves to be.
Khmer 21
Koreans 22
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 16
Mayans 24
Mongols 23
Ottoman Turks 12
Tibetans 4

 

[Kimiimaro]

Ashanti 18
Babylonians 18
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 19
Georgians 17
Incas 23
Khmer 21
Koreans 22
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 16
Mayans 24
Mongols 23
Ottoman Turks 12+1=13 - Ottomans are a super priority to me. Them having second lowest score here? I have to fix that!
Tibetans 4-3=1 - Probably won't happen, and I want some other Asian Civs than them.

 

[luigilime]

Ashanti 18
Babylonians 18
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 19+1=20 best option in Africa with a multimillennual history
Georgians 17
Incas 23
Khmer 21
Koreans 22
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 16
Mayans 24
Mongols 23
Ottoman Turks 13
Tibetans 1-3 ELIMINATED I prefer Korea at the moment

 

[Morningcalm]

Ashanti 18
Babylonians 18
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 20
Georgians 17 - 3 = 14 (Tamar Civvit jokes aside, I don't think the Georgians are quite as interesting as the remaining options. Tamar was definitely a great ruler, however, so I would welcome her in perhaps Civ VI's second expansion.)
Incas 23
Khmer 21
Koreans 22
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 16 + 1 = 17 (From an area of the world rarely touched upon in Civ, one of the most unique remaining on this list, and the Maori have never been featured as a standalone civ in Civilization.)
Mayans 24
Mongols 23
Ottoman Turks 13

 

[Guandao]

Ashanti 18
Babylonians 20
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 19
Georgians 20
Incas 22
Khmer 21 (24 - 3) -- They're far from the most interesting civ on this list.
Koreans 22 (21 + 1) -- I eagerly await their return.
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 16
Mayans 24
Mongols 23
Ottoman Turks 12
Tibetans 4

Um, excuse me?
Downvoting the Khmer for not being interesting...I might have to defend them against you.
This forum is full of SE Asian haters! Firaxis might as well make this upcoming DLC their only SE Asian Civ.

 

[God of Kings]

Um, excuse me?
Downvoting the Khmer for not being interesting...I might have to defend them against you.
This forum is full of SE Asian haters! Firaxis might as well make this upcoming DLC their only SE Asian Civ.

Southeast Asia has numerous interesting civs.

The Khmers founded a city that had more people than any other city in the world pre-industrialization!

If it weren't for the Indonesians, many European meat dishes would be without nutmeg, cloves, or other spices native to Indonesia. Not just that, but non-Asians would not know about a certain "smelly" spiky fruit. Indonesia is also famous for its coffee, batik, and gamelan music.

Thailand is one of the most popular tropical destinations in the world, thanks to its "Land of a Thousand Smiles" nickname. Just don't mock its monarchy. Thailand also modernized extremely quickly as well; Bangkok has among the most traffic congestion in the world.

Singapore is one of the most successful modern city-states in the world. Yet, chewing gum is banned there.

Malaysia is among the countries that banned the most Hollywood films in the world.

Vietnam is one of the best known Southeast Asian countries during the second half of the 20th century.

Despite being landlocked, Laos has a navy patrolling the Mekong River.

In university, I once took a course on the geography of Southeast Asia.

 

[Zaarin]

Um, excuse me?
Downvoting the Khmer for not being interesting...I might have to defend them against you.
This forum is full of SE Asian haters! Firaxis might as well make this upcoming DLC their only SE Asian Civ.

I never said they weren't interesting; I said they weren't the most interesting on the list (i.e., they shouldn't have the number one slot on the list).

 

[Guandao]

I never said they weren't interesting; I said they weren't the most interesting on the list (i.e., they shouldn't have the number one slot on the list).

I understand .
I think voting is going to get a lot harder from now on. All of the choices left are great and probably should be added to Civ6.
I wonder if I should vote based on which Civ I anticipate the most.

 

[The Kingmaker]

Ashanti 18
Babylonians 18+1=19 Along with the Mongols and some more civs in the Americas, this really was needed like, yesterday. If not sooner.
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 20
Georgians 14-3=11 Sorry Tamar. Look around. The stakes are so much higher now.
Incas 23
Khmer 21
Koreans 22
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 17
Mayans 24
Mongols 23
Ottoman Turks 13

 

[conorbebe]

Ashanti 18
Babylonians 19
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 14 (17 - 3) The last choice on this list that I wouldn't really miss.
Ethiopians 20
Georgians 11
Incas 23
Khmer 21
Koreans 22
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 18 (17 + 1) VERY INTERESTING. How can you not love the culture and uniqueness of the people of this region?!
Mayans 24
Mongols 23
Ottoman Turks 13