Bush and Hitler both had the nerve to use their armies against other nations.
i could compose a list of leaders who "had the nerve to use their armies against other nations" going back 5,000 years. but i'm not going to enter into a debate with you about that...
but, i will say that your entire post here is completely odd, bizarre and curious to say the least... and i can't help but wonder where you're getting your information on all this? i mean, you must somehow be priveledged to some source of information that the most unpresidently free press organizations of the world (of all time) do not have... you see, CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, any... any free press organization would LOVE, LOVE to have evidence for what you claim is true. they would have the biggest story since, i don't know when... not to mention opposing political parties who would love, even more, to expose what you're claiming.
apparently, they, all of them, are not just simply being duped by the supposed bush propoganda machine... nay, bush and his administration is somehow smarter, and one step ahead of (over the course of 5 years of scrutiny) all free press agencies in the world, all other political opponents, the UN and all other coalition leaders or opposing leaders in the world as well. wow, that's impressive, if i understand you correctly...
but it's obvious your information is... whatever you want it to be... when you say hitler wasn't as bold with regards to propoganda (he was one of the world's most aggressive propogandists- history shows it), or that he had some sort of sense to "create stability and avoid civil war in areas he conquered".
wait... w- what?
so, britain and france were "bold enough to use their armies" against the people of germany, since they declared war on hitler, right? (by the same logic you're using). not exactly, they declared war because hitler was the aggressor who violated agreements for non-aggression going back to WW #1... don't twist it around to be whatever you want it to be. he used the blitzkreig multiple times in a form of warfare that "smaller countries" had never seen and were not prepared for. thus, they surrendered... they did not simply "join him without a fight" and willingly come under hitler's control with a much more effective "management system that prevented civil war" than the bush administration... that's wild man... wild.
also, i want to understand what you mean by "crushed like iraq". iraq fell with a relatively low number of casualties, in a very short period of time. the fighting thereafter has caused the majority of casualties because of uprisings from islamic factions. there have been civilian casualties, but the majority of the thousands you speak of are killed between sunni and shiite, and al quida, etc, etc... iraqis (and i should say islamists from all over the region) are suicide bombing mosques and religious gatherings, among other places, at will. it's like baptists and methodists and presbitarians all deciding that the other is "unholy" and must be converted or... drum roll please... killed like the infadel dogs they are... that's pretty much what the bush administration was woefully unprepared for.
EDIT: i have to make one edit here - you say "100s of thousands if not millions of people lose their lives as a result of their scams"... wow, really? millions? thousands of people have died in iraq, but not all at the hands of the bush administration as i point out above, but even still, it hasn't even reached a hundred thousand and you're claiming millions... it's stuff like that where i would like to know where you're getting your info...
the "bush invasion force" you speak of, is attempting to secure the region, with limited success, not repeatedly bomb or carpet bomb as you say, or establish concentration camps and exterminate ethnicities or go around and kill civilians willy-nilly (like hitler and the gestapo were famous for). the media from all around the world is there, covering the war, and if the "bush invasion force" was bombing areas filled with civilians or purposefully attempting to exterminate people the way hitler did, U.S. and foreign media would be ALL OVER IT. ther are civilians who are accidentally killed, or militants who hide among civilians, but the "bush invasion machine" is not deliberately targeting civilians...
in fact, you say it's all the bush administration, but it is a coalition of something like 75 nations... so there must be 75 more hitlers out there "crushing iraq" at will and killing civilians at will, as you say.
i just want to know where you get your information, or if this is simply something you "believe" is going on. i think it's the latter. perhaps you've seen too many movies?
in the end, i don't mean to put you down personally. there is just this wave of people out there who believe the nonsense that you've posted here. i'm just asking someone such as yourself, to stop running away with your ideas about what's going on here, and start looking at things objectively. take a deep breathe and don't start twisting facts and history around.
my cousin had a different take, claiming bush is a fascist, so i thought that's where you were going with it. he's not a fascist either...
i, by the way, am not a big fan of the bush administration. i'm just trying to keep what's within the parameters of reasonable, possible, and historically true apart from this odd belief that the boogey man is in charge or that bush is comparable or somehow worse than hitler... let's get serious here, really. it's an interesting debate for me at the least.
ok, well, this has gotten away from civ, the game, and i didn't mean such a lengthy reply, but well, there it is. i love the game, and i agree, let's just play the game... i think you're a really smart person, worthy of any intellectual debate or independent conclusions... but don't get carried away. look for the truth, keep it within reason... and remember that, in the country you live in, you have the right to speak out. most people around the world do not. some fight to preserve that right, whether they go about it the right way, or make all the right decisions along the way, is another story.
peace