New Religions Requested...

[Mr.Earl]

Maybe we could make Atheism an optional addon, that way people who don't want it don't have to have it.

 

[John Stalin]

Sounds logicaller... thats not even a word

 

[Dryhad]

Maybe we could make Atheism an optional addon, that way people who don't want it don't have to have it.

It'll be an optional addition anyway (as you pointed out earlier, people who don't like don't have to use it). This would just go to extra trouble and ignore my real point. I don't think Atheism should be left out, but I don't think it should be a religion either. It isn't a religion, not in the terms of Civ 4, but it is an important part of civilisation and should somehow be included.

 

[Falnax]

Atheism could be implemented as marxism, thus it is founded by communism, uses "leader statues" for its temples, party headquarters for its monestaries, and communes for its cathederals. The shrine of marxist atheism can be Juche tower (landmark in N. Korea used to celebrate the marxist state). The effects of the religion would be +2 beakers with religion in city, +1 happiness and +2 culture with statue, +10% production with monestary, and +25% food production and -25% maintainence with cathederal. The missionary of Marxism could be called the comrade.

Additionally, it might be interesting to give the statue +15% production, -50% military unit production, representing the unwillingness of a secular population to go to war (look at EU), however, it also enables you to build the conscript unit, an incredibly cheap unit with a strength of 12 and collateral damage. (designed to work sort of like the fanatics in civ 2.)

 

[Leif]

Atheism has existed since the time of Plato, however I don't quite know how it would 'spread' exactily, I think it should be apart of some civic or a tech.

 

[John Stalin]

well i know tons of athiest zealots especially these crusaders... they call them selves... The Atheal Knights of the Anti-Christian Crusade >.> long name but i dont think athiests tend to be THAT romantic

 

[Eusebius]

Hi, I would suggest to split up Christianity into Catholicism and Protestanism, and maybe Orthodoxy, although that was basically the same as Catholicism, just ruled by the Bzyntine Emperor rather than the Pope. Along those same lines, maybe have Sunni, and Shi'ite Islam. And I know there are three major sects of Buddhism, 'cept I don't know the names. Maybe this is going beyond what you wanted, but you could have these spontaneously break apart at random times.

Funny you should mention this; I am working on just these sorts of ideas. Detailed specs on my World Religions Mod in process may be found by clicking here. I would love feedback now before all the code is written.

Eusebius

 

[Figaro]

Rather than include Aetheism as a religion, which I agree with many people seems rather contradictory (besides, it would be silly building aetheist buildings), there should be in the game

A) The ability to wipe out religions in a city (Inquisitor)
B) An incentive to do so - e.g. all religious civics except Free Religion give +1 unhappiness per non-state religion in the city
C) An aetheist state Religious civic that does the same, only with no state religion (and some kind of aetheist inquisitor to wipe out the religions).

That way there would actually be a way of wiping out religions, which is highly realistic based on world history...

As to which religions to add, rather than Satanism it would be cool if there were something generic like "Heretics" which can't be selected as your state religion (and so is always going to be a Bad Thing) Satanism is specific to Christianity (and Judaism? Not sure) whereas Heresy could be relative to any.

Other religions...
-Sikhism! There's an H in it. I don't know about you but here in Britian there are loads of Sikhs; I was really surprised not to see them in Civ4 when I'd never even heard of Taoism.
-Erm... remove Confucionism? Come now, he was a philosopher right? Can anyone here profess to be a Confucionist?
-Shinto (now there is a mod out there)
-Definately Catholicism/Protestantism. If you did a world map in Civ4 with all the religions in the right places, Christianity would be just about everywhere except the Middle and Far East. Two Christianities (or three, if you added Orthodoxy) would remedy that, and accurately seem to represent the schismic nature of the Christian church (there's a Christian sect specific to Wales...).

 

[John Stalin]

Atheism is technically a religion, nontheism is the absence of religion. I think LeVay Satanism would also be a good addition. I don't mean Luciferianism as that is Satan Worship... though that might be a nice addition too.

And Don't remove confusism... religion isn't about belief, its about worship. People worship the thoughts of confucius (wow i butcher spelling) just as much as Muslims worship Allah. Belief is often a connection to religion but often people tie them together... especially the vast majority of people.
I also believe we should add Zoroastrianism... but with out removing any religions.

Just thought I'd add in my input... again >.>

 

[Figaro]

The problem with adding Aetheism is, what the hell is going on in a City with no religious icons? If they're not religious but not aetheist, then what on earth are they? I don't think there's a major distinction between Aetheism and Nontheism or whatever. The particulars may vary, but hey, there's a religion called "Christianity" in this game...

 

[ides]

I have a little mod (it's completed) that I use myself where I have 10 religions - the original 7, plus Shinto, Sikhism, and Baha'i Faith. I sort of reverse-engineered Dual's mod to figure out how he added Shinto, and added Sikhism and Baha'i myself based on the fact that they are the next most common major organized religions, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_religion.

So far though the mod is extremely rough and I only have very primitive graphics; i.e. the gamefont.tga icons are filled in, and there is 1 icon of the symbol of that religion that I use for everything else. Would anyone else be interested in this mod or be interested in developing it more/adding a few more religions?

 

[Figaro]

Zoroastianism out to be fairly easy to add because the graphics are all there in the Greek World Mod that came with the game (or was it with a patch? I think it might have come with a patch because there's no mention of it in the manual). It also features Greek/Egyptian/Mesmopotamian Polytheisms, though maybe adding them would be less of a good idea.

 

[John Stalin]

well as of lately... there are more neopagans then zoroastrians... there are about 1-3mil... and I just think that it shouldn't be over looked -.- sorry i'm obsessive about it lol... but yeah zoroastrianism should be pretty easy

 

[Dryhad]

As to which religions to add, rather than Satanism it would be cool if there were something generic like "Heretics" which can't be selected as your state religion (and so is always going to be a Bad Thing) Satanism is specific to Christianity (and Judaism? Not sure) whereas Heresy could be relative to any.

"Heresy" is far to broad. A heretic is basically anyone who disagrees with a given religion. This includes members of every other religion. The point of adding Satanism or Luciferism or whatever is not to show people who oppose a given religion, but to show a religion that happens to oppose certain religions.

Atheism is technically a religion, nontheism is the absence of religion.

I think almost every single member of this message board would disagree with you. "Atheism" literally means "nontheism" anyway.

 

[Mr.Earl]

"Atheism" literally means "nontheism" anyway.

Dryhad's right, the prefix A- means "no." For example, Asymetry means "no symatry"

However, I will still leave Atheism on the list. But now I'll make it more clear that it should be an optional addon.

 

[John Stalin]

alright... well think about my list in the long run dont leave out a religion because it feels meager

 

[FOSFOROS]

John Stalin, you said that satanism isnt about worshipping satan but luciferiasim is. Youre wrong. Traditional satanism is about worshipping satan but modern satanism is more philosophical. And also there is LaVenyan satanism and more. I am too lazy and I have been sick for seven days so I wont tell more but you know how to use wikipedia(or can you?)

And when you research an religion there comes that movie for Satanism I have perfect music. It is black metal(burzum, darkthrone etc...) I just hope if someone does satanism and those others listes aswell and atheism as religion. I want to twist worlds with those "strange" religions. And I have been worried(well, can you put a better word?) when incas doesnt have their traditional religion.

 

[John Stalin]

I know but traditional satanism in the philosophical satanism community is called Luciferianism. Thats just what I've grown accustomed too.

 

[FOSFOROS]

so what are trying to say?

 

[John Stalin]

I'm saying I am a liberated individual.. that a problem