New series: Ancient Anglo-Saxon
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AnthonyIII
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They look great. I'll definitely use them in my game! 
Thank you all
But i decided to take it down.
The main reason is that one of the centerpieces (that of size #2) had already been used as part of the centerpiece of size #1 of the Halfling set.
A secondary reason was that i still do not like the textures and overall do not regard this set that good anyway...
But you can also find it (along with some variations of it) in Plotinus' scenario Therood and the Dragon.
But i decided to take it down.
The main reason is that one of the centerpieces (that of size #2) had already been used as part of the centerpiece of size #1 of the Halfling set.
A secondary reason was that i still do not like the textures and overall do not regard this set that good anyway...
But you can also find it (along with some variations of it) in Plotinus' scenario Therood and the Dragon.
I had posted the entire set in two variations in this thread:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=417621&page=2&highlight=saxon
And no, i do not want others to upload gfx of mine, unless they have been lost and i do not mind them being in the database.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=417621&page=2&highlight=saxon
And no, i do not want others to upload gfx of mine, unless they have been lost and i do not mind them being in the database.
Jerry'sGoldfish
Emperor
anglo-saxon cities did not look like rural settlements....they must have retained at least in some parts a roman aspect....off course there where once was a roman city.
The Anglo-Saxons did not generally settle in Roman cities, which are referred to in Anglo-Saxon literature as the ruins of giants. In Anglo-Saxon times, even London was probably abandoned.
The cities here look great (other than the ubiquitous stone plinth, which isn't really in keeping) and they definitely improved the look of my scenario, so thanks again to Kyriakos for them.
The cities here look great (other than the ubiquitous stone plinth, which isn't really in keeping) and they definitely improved the look of my scenario, so thanks again to Kyriakos for them.
Jerry'sGoldfish
Emperor
i read a lot about british history and this period is my favourite...all i have to say is that you have forgotten the romano-british people. consult the blood tests done in britain and you will notice heavy germanic blood on the edges of the island.....of course there is also the religion, anglo-saxons converted to catholicism and drew the romano-british church out of the land. 
Plotinus has certainly not forgotten about the Romano-British; they feature heavily in his scenario The Rood and the Dragon.
The Romano-British are... well, they're not the Anglo-Saxons. Culturally distinct. Their architecture is different to what we have found regarding the Anglo-Saxons.
What does blood have to do with anything, exactly?
Archaeology of votive buildings is pretty slim regarding Anglo-Saxons prior to the introduction of christianity, so based on that it would be reasonable to rpesume they were rather perishable.
Also, the Anglo-Saxons tended to stay away from large cities in general, prefering the Germanic style of smaller urban centres based around agriculture. So it's more than reasonable to interpret an Anglo-Saxon city as a large rural centre, perhaps representing a collection of smaller rural centres.
It is to be noted, though, that the Anglo-Saxons did use Roman brick for construction, notably Churches. And, Plotinus, the Anglo-Saxons were certainly in London in the 7th Century; my source is below
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See the Burlington Magazine for Connisseurs, Vol. 79, No. 464, Nov., 1941
The Romano-British are... well, they're not the Anglo-Saxons. Culturally distinct. Their architecture is different to what we have found regarding the Anglo-Saxons.
What does blood have to do with anything, exactly?
Archaeology of votive buildings is pretty slim regarding Anglo-Saxons prior to the introduction of christianity, so based on that it would be reasonable to rpesume they were rather perishable.
Also, the Anglo-Saxons tended to stay away from large cities in general, prefering the Germanic style of smaller urban centres based around agriculture. So it's more than reasonable to interpret an Anglo-Saxon city as a large rural centre, perhaps representing a collection of smaller rural centres.
It is to be noted, though, that the Anglo-Saxons did use Roman brick for construction, notably Churches. And, Plotinus, the Anglo-Saxons were certainly in London in the 7th Century; my source is below
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See the Burlington Magazine for Connisseurs, Vol. 79, No. 464, Nov., 1941
Jerry'sGoldfish
Emperor
the people of britain stood their ground, under pressure from church and upper society they were forced into assimilation. to claim that towns were deserted in an era where tens of villages gathered under the protective walls of city fortifications seems fancy....
nick0515
C7 Fanatic
Not all cities were abandoned. Some seem to have keep going long after the legions left, however, Plotinus is right that the Anglo-Saxons didn't really settle in the Romano-British cities. It wouldn't make sense to have Roman architecture in the Anglo-Saxon cities.
i read a lot about british history and this period is my favourite...all i have to say is that you have forgotten the romano-british people. consult the blood tests done in britain and you will notice heavy germanic blood on the edges of the island.....of course there is also the religion, anglo-saxons converted to catholicism and drew the romano-british church out of the land.
I don't know what you mean by "heavy Germanic blood" - it was the Anglo-Saxons, not the Romano-British, who were Germanic if anything. The Romano-British church was "driven out" before the Anglo-Saxons converted to Catholicism - it was basically destroyed when the Anglo-Saxons first appeared, and replaced by paganism. However, I think it is a mistake to describe the religious disagreements of this period as disagreements between "churches". To talk about "Catholicism" implies that there was any alternative. There wasn't. Certainly the Celtic churches did some things a bit differently from those in closer touch with Rome, but that didn't mean they weren't "Catholic" or that there was some kind of purge of them, as you imply.
Also, almost nothing is known about the British church before the time of the Anglo-Saxons, beyond its bare existence. We don't know how many people were Christians or what form their Christianity took. Given that the advent of the Anglo-Saxons saw Christianity apparently wiped completely away and replaced by paganism (a very rare occurrence), it seems reasonable to think that Romano-British Christianity was a minority affair and not very strong.
the people of britain stood their ground, under pressure from church and upper society they were forced into assimilation. to claim that towns were deserted in an era where tens of villages gathered under the protective walls of city fortifications seems fancy....
But they didn't do that. Anglo-Saxon villages were certainly fortified, at least sometimes, but these were not substantial city walls, they were usually wooden and earthen palisades.
And, Plotinus, the Anglo-Saxons were certainly in London in the 7th Century; my source is below
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See the Burlington Magazine for Connisseurs, Vol. 79, No. 464, Nov., 1941
Very nice source! But it's only talking about the church of All Hallows By The Tower. That is certainly within the Roman city of London, but it was built and maintained by Barking Abbey, which was very definitely outside the city. Presumably that indicates that things were going on in the Roman city, but I'm not sure it proves that anyone was actually living there.
The real centre of activity in Anglo-Saxon London was of course Aldwych, to the west of the Roman city. At that time it was called Lundenwic (London town), and later became known as Aldwych (old town) when people gradually moved back into the Roman city (which, paradoxically, they thought of as newer).
There's an interesting brief overview of the nature of Anglo-Saxon settlements here. As it makes clear, "towns" and "cities" in the Roman sense didn't exist in Anglo-Saxon culture, which thought of (and created) settlements in a very different way.
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