New Unit: LandsKnecht November 2, 2004
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Very nice unit Kinboat. Though I think foojer speaks some truth, around here knækt is the old word for "dude" so this guy would be tranlsated into "Countrydude."
Still great though
Still great though
Ares de Borg
Norman Knight
A Doppelsöldner! Nice!
Rufus T. Firefly
Rufus is coming in town!
LouLong
In love with Rei Ayanami
A note on it (I know for I requested it) :
Lansknecht : means litterally servant of the plains (flat low country) or plains' dude as Yoda put it.
This is by opposition to the Swiss guys (pikes) who were coming from the mountains high country). It does not indicate any weapon preference.
Actually they used a lot of diferent weapons but the most frequent were musket (they got double-pay for it), pikes or the two-handles long blade (represented here) that they were the only ones (AFAIK) to use. Some wore protections (helmets or for torso (they also got double-pay) but most wore flashy trendy Renaissance clothes like here.
Funny that the encyclopedia Kinboat uses says nearly the same thing as my own pedia in the scenario. I should have copied it instead of trying to write my own in English !!!
@Kinboat : thank you very much ! I can release the scenario as soon as Thunderfall gives me the FTP now.
@ Kal-El : hey, nice to have you back. Drill over ?
Lansknecht : means litterally servant of the plains (flat low country) or plains' dude as Yoda put it.
This is by opposition to the Swiss guys (pikes) who were coming from the mountains high country). It does not indicate any weapon preference.
Actually they used a lot of diferent weapons but the most frequent were musket (they got double-pay for it), pikes or the two-handles long blade (represented here) that they were the only ones (AFAIK) to use. Some wore protections (helmets or for torso (they also got double-pay) but most wore flashy trendy Renaissance clothes like here.
Funny that the encyclopedia Kinboat uses says nearly the same thing as my own pedia in the scenario. I should have copied it instead of trying to write my own in English !!!
@Kinboat : thank you very much ! I can release the scenario as soon as Thunderfall gives me the FTP now.
@ Kal-El : hey, nice to have you back. Drill over ?
LouLong
In love with Rei Ayanami
BTW nice alt pedia picture ! I salute you (taking my hat in my hand and bending over to you, of course !).
tjedge1
Writer of writerly things
Excellent work Kinboat. 
Goldflash
Civ III Modder, Civ VII Player
This guy is very good for Cuttin', Cleavin', Slashin', and Stabbin'
Luddi VII
Sheep farmer
Great unit!! This unit would maybe fit into one of my scens.
Risbinroch
Prince
Truly outstanding wonderful work! The Preview don't do the unit enough justice! The hat looks wonderful and as someone else mentioned, very cool alt civpedia icons...
Pol_Cop
Warlord
It was so-called "Sacco di Roma" - The Sack of Rome, plundering from May to September 1527.
A.) Causes for the Sack of Rome
Emperor Charles V. had defeated King Francis I. in the Franco-Habsburg War. Francis had been taken prisoner in the Battle of Pavia, and had signed the Treaty of Madrid 1526, which supposedly ended the conflict. Francis I., freshly released, showed no intention to honour his obligations, and instread joined the LEAGUE OF COGNAC (1526), together with Pope Clement VII. and with Venice
B.) The Sack of Rome
Emperor Charles V. felt double-crossed. He lead an army of German mercenaries (Landsknechte), marched on Rome and took the city without meeting much resistance. The mercenaries, among whom were a consuderable number of Lutherans, plundered the city; Pope Clement VII. was terrified, the League of Cognac practically dissolved.
In 1527, the Medici, relatives of Pope Clement VII., were ousted from Florence, for the second time.
C.) The Legacy
In the Peace of Barcelona, Emperor Charles V. had granted favourable conditions to Pope Clement VII. After peace was concluded between the Emperor and France in 1529, Clement VII. formally crowned Charles Emperor. The same year, Emperor Charles V. dispatched an army against the Republic of Florence (which in 1527 had ousted the Medicis - Clement VII. was a Medici. Emperor and pope had turned into allies. In August 1530, after a 10-month siege, the Republic of Florence agreed to the Emperor's terms. In 1533 Pope Clement VII. rejected Henry VIII's application for a divorce from Catherine of Aragon - a close relative of the Emperor.
BTW - "barbarians" as Goths, Vandals etc. NEVER PLUNDERED ROME SO HEAVILY AS "CATHOLIC" TROOPS LEADED BY "CHRISTIAN AND CATHOLIC EMPEROR"
Pol_Cop
Warlord
Ares de Borg said:
Do you know what Doppelsoldner means?
I suppose you do, but for those who dont know - it means "Soldier who takes double payment", because these guys with Zweihander had very dangerous service. They attacked and crushed enemy lines with their heavy sword and then their comrades with pikes ended the job. Here is typical Landsknecht - with lancehttp://members.kabsi.at/seeau/Encyclopaedia/image/Schmuck-Landsknecht2.jpg
Kinboat
Conan the Librarian
While I agree it means "Servant of the Plains" it sounds like it was bastardized in english as Lance Knight... I think this is where the confusion/misunderstanding of the meaning of the name is coming from.
Ares de Borg
Norman Knight
Pol_Cop said:Do you know what Doppelsoldner means?
http://members.kabsi.at/seeau/Encyclopaedia/image/Schmuck-Landsknecht2.jpg
Sure I do - I'm German and a history student
The "Zweihänder" or "Bidenhänder" (Two-handed swords) is a common sight in almost every castle or townhall over here, especially where I live. I live in the Münsterland, which is the western part of Westphalia, and as you know the Thirty Years War was ended with a peace treaty signed in Münster 1648 AD ("Westfälischer Frieden" - Treaty Of Westphalia). What you might not know is that the military importance of the Doppelsöldner is very much overestimated - most of the existing Bidenhänder were made for parade purposes, not war.
Right on, Mr. Kinboat! I'm glad you went for the cool factor re: weaponry. Cool factor regarding clothing, however -- well, I guess your hands were tied. Our friend Ekmek says it best:
@Pol-Cop: Nice to see you around again!
@Ares de Borg: Weren't those (fricking gigantic) swords supposed to be used for cutting the pointy-ends off of pikes? I seem to have heard that somewhere on the infobahn, dunno if it's accurate.Ekmek said:
@Pol-Cop: Nice to see you around again!
kevincompton
Prince
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hat is to big and the breastplate should have gloss to it.
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