G-Force Junkie
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What would be cool is an Army Ranger that could serve as a practical American UU that could replace the paratrooper.
New UU's
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For the Dutch UU, maybe the option for settlers to build cities on Coast-squares?
Or else that worker mentioned before that would transform coast to grassland. However, the adjacent sea-square should not change to coast to prevent transforming the entire world oceans
Or else that worker mentioned before that would transform coast to grassland. However, the adjacent sea-square should not change to coast to prevent transforming the entire world oceans
SoCalian
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V-Dog was making a beautiful Army Ranger unit for the Americains, but sadly he gave up.
I think that an Army Ranger would be the best UU for the Americans. It would be much better than the Minuiteman that some people have suggested. Also the Longbowman should be the English UU and replace a crossbowman unit. One more thing the Turtle Ship should be the Korean UU to replace the frigate.
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I would like to see as many civs as possible have two UUs. In my mod I got two UUs for some countries, and will add more if at all possible. Here's a list:
Scotland: Scottish warrior, Scottish Guardsman
America: Army Ranger, F-15
England: Longbowman, Man O War
Korea: Hwacha, Turtle Ship
Vikings:Longboat, Beserk
Ottomans: Janissary, Sapahi
Scotland: Scottish warrior, Scottish Guardsman
America: Army Ranger, F-15
England: Longbowman, Man O War
Korea: Hwacha, Turtle Ship
Vikings:Longboat, Beserk
Ottomans: Janissary, Sapahi
You know sometimes you get a coast tile but still has little bit of land on it making it impossible to send a worker to irrigate it because it is a coast tile, well it would be nice to have workers UU that, once it has the tech for doing levees (dyke), it could be sent there and make some sort of defence on that tile. What about dam creation on rivers. Would that be feasible in Conquer or that is Civ4 stuff?
I would be happy with the proposed limitation suggested by NHJ BV. Once a tile has been terraformed, ANY adjacent tile may not be terraformed.
Is it only the Dutch nation (in the real world im talking) that have gained land from sea. I know Hong Kong gained land for the construction of there airport, but that would be insignificant on a Civ tile, unless we make it possible to creat an airfield on a coast tile... aaaaaaaaaaah!!!!
I Think the Mongols Horsemen UU is perceft for them, maybe some kind of upgrade to their UU, maybe you could have regular horsemen UU, an upgraded archer horsemenUU... After all, Mongols train horsebackriding at a young age, and being able to shoot an arrow while hunting for food made them very skilled mounted horsemen.
Is this a new idea to the forum ? Some kind of upgrade or diversifation of a certain unit.
For example, I love the viking for their Bezerks but was dissapointed that the drakkar (naval unit) wasnt part of their arsenal. After all, "Bezerk" Warriors did attack from the sea, in their Drakkar.
I would be happy with the proposed limitation suggested by NHJ BV. Once a tile has been terraformed, ANY adjacent tile may not be terraformed.
Is it only the Dutch nation (in the real world im talking) that have gained land from sea. I know Hong Kong gained land for the construction of there airport, but that would be insignificant on a Civ tile, unless we make it possible to creat an airfield on a coast tile... aaaaaaaaaaah!!!!
I Think the Mongols Horsemen UU is perceft for them, maybe some kind of upgrade to their UU, maybe you could have regular horsemen UU, an upgraded archer horsemenUU... After all, Mongols train horsebackriding at a young age, and being able to shoot an arrow while hunting for food made them very skilled mounted horsemen.
Is this a new idea to the forum ? Some kind of upgrade or diversifation of a certain unit.
For example, I love the viking for their Bezerks but was dissapointed that the drakkar (naval unit) wasnt part of their arsenal. After all, "Bezerk" Warriors did attack from the sea, in their Drakkar.
W S Churchill
Chieftain
As some of our American contributors put it so eloquently: bull****
I was referring to the fact that the Dutch state, with all it's legislative infrastructure only matured into an independent state in 1648, as a result of the Treaty of Utrecht, thus finally dislodging the northern part (!!) of the Spanish Netherlands from Spain.
We were never conquered by the Spanish. In those days territories were most of the time gained through marriage, as in this case. The Spanish King basically married got the Dutch as a wedding present
Might that be a nice extra option on monarchy level?
Oh, and about all the rambling about "us" being a nation around the times of the romans etc... we were just a bunch of germanic kelts, no different from any of the others...you should have payed more attention in school.
Jon Shafer
Civilization 5 Designer
The Dutch UU is the **** and the Portuguese UU is the ****.
Oh, and the **** UU is the ****.
Good enough?
Oh, and the **** UU is the ****.
Good enough?
nalves
sailing in a NAU
Originally posted by Trip
The Dutch UU is the **** and the Portuguese UU is the ****.
Oh, and the **** UU is the ****.
Good enough?
Those are some good ideas
Portuguese
Vassalising Spain
Who play with America and start a Golden Age without being from a wonder?
superisis
His Highness' dog at Kew
well the discussion dark ages vs renaissance seems to have ended, so I wont try to revive them. though I do have some arguments n input... However, the dutch birthright vs byzantine birth right IS still alive so:
NOOOO... (well, maybe) the Byzantine empire should not be included on the basis of being an indipendant civ... Its not, ask any byzantine citizen. They never called themselves byzantine, they were romans, constantinople was the "nuova roma" (how you say that in greek?). They were extremely arrogant to states such as the "Holy Roman Empire" and the dubbing of the Frank (what's his name again?) on christmas eve year 800. The emperors of Constantinople considered them selves (quite rightfully) the emperors of Rome (as the state/empire Rome, not city rome).
WHY?
Because they were!!! I believe it was the roman emperor archadius (might be wrong on the name) who sepparated rome into two halves, an easter and a western and made himself emperor of the eastern (better) half, but also he was the ruler of the western half. The capital of the eastern roman empire was Constantinople (founded by Constantine, on the area of the old greek city of Byzantium, hence the later given nickname byzantines, an artificial name they themselves NEVER used), the capital of the western roman empire was Ravenna. The western roman empire fell into pieces in the centuries following Constantines death (late 300's-400's) though the emperor Justantine (or was it Justantinius?) tried to reconquer parts of it (succeeded in North Africa, against the vandals, and Italy, against the ostro goths). N.B. Justantine is also famous for the construction of Hagia Sofia, built by Sergios and Bacchos (I think), the famous church of Constantinople the inspired the great mosques of Sinan and also the early Russian rulers (convincing them to make their state religion orthodox-christianity instead of roman Catholisism/islam/judaism) and for the compilation of the first great (united) law codex... which is why names withing the law are based of Justinians name (such as justice, just etc).
If we are going tho add the Byzantine's to civ3 conquerors expansions.... THEN, I would like to see the Mugals implemented since their power was infinately greater than that of the puny little dutch who groveled in the dust of Rulers such as JIHANGIR!
the mugal state was much more seppareated from the later indian state the the relation between the byzantines and the roman. Beside the byzantines can either be incorporated into the civ of the Romans (being romans, the byzantines, the several indipendent comunes then finally Regno D'Italia 1860!) or of the Ottmans, being the history of modern day turkey (Greek territory, the roman, then byzantine, then ottoman, the turkish).
If they continue with these "two civs for one" then I would like to see a Swedish civ... being that Sweden was a major power in europe (atleast northen europe), conquering lands of modern denmark, germany, poland, latvia, lithuania, estonia, finland, russia, norway and USA. The UU would be the 17th century rifleman unit know as karolinare. YEAH!
a little while ago someone mentioned dutch inventions... well here follows some swedish ones.
--The Biology chart, that laid the base of modern biology.
--Dynamite
--Celcius degrees (you know the one goin from 0 to 100, freezing to boiling)
--adjustable spanner (also known as monkey wrench)
--tetra pack (you know, regular milk carton material)
--the propeller
--the zipper
--the safety match (the kind we use today)
--the turbo car engine
--the modern telephone (where mouthpiece and speaker where on one piece, not two separate)
--the ball bearing
to name some of the most prominent...
ciao ragazzi!
Jonte
NOOOO... (well, maybe) the Byzantine empire should not be included on the basis of being an indipendant civ... Its not, ask any byzantine citizen. They never called themselves byzantine, they were romans, constantinople was the "nuova roma" (how you say that in greek?). They were extremely arrogant to states such as the "Holy Roman Empire" and the dubbing of the Frank (what's his name again?) on christmas eve year 800. The emperors of Constantinople considered them selves (quite rightfully) the emperors of Rome (as the state/empire Rome, not city rome).
WHY?
Because they were!!! I believe it was the roman emperor archadius (might be wrong on the name) who sepparated rome into two halves, an easter and a western and made himself emperor of the eastern (better) half, but also he was the ruler of the western half. The capital of the eastern roman empire was Constantinople (founded by Constantine, on the area of the old greek city of Byzantium, hence the later given nickname byzantines, an artificial name they themselves NEVER used), the capital of the western roman empire was Ravenna. The western roman empire fell into pieces in the centuries following Constantines death (late 300's-400's) though the emperor Justantine (or was it Justantinius?) tried to reconquer parts of it (succeeded in North Africa, against the vandals, and Italy, against the ostro goths). N.B. Justantine is also famous for the construction of Hagia Sofia, built by Sergios and Bacchos (I think), the famous church of Constantinople the inspired the great mosques of Sinan and also the early Russian rulers (convincing them to make their state religion orthodox-christianity instead of roman Catholisism/islam/judaism) and for the compilation of the first great (united) law codex... which is why names withing the law are based of Justinians name (such as justice, just etc).
If we are going tho add the Byzantine's to civ3 conquerors expansions.... THEN, I would like to see the Mugals implemented since their power was infinately greater than that of the puny little dutch who groveled in the dust of Rulers such as JIHANGIR!
the mugal state was much more seppareated from the later indian state the the relation between the byzantines and the roman. Beside the byzantines can either be incorporated into the civ of the Romans (being romans, the byzantines, the several indipendent comunes then finally Regno D'Italia 1860!) or of the Ottmans, being the history of modern day turkey (Greek territory, the roman, then byzantine, then ottoman, the turkish).
If they continue with these "two civs for one" then I would like to see a Swedish civ... being that Sweden was a major power in europe (atleast northen europe), conquering lands of modern denmark, germany, poland, latvia, lithuania, estonia, finland, russia, norway and USA. The UU would be the 17th century rifleman unit know as karolinare. YEAH!
a little while ago someone mentioned dutch inventions... well here follows some swedish ones.
--The Biology chart, that laid the base of modern biology.
--Dynamite
--Celcius degrees (you know the one goin from 0 to 100, freezing to boiling)
--adjustable spanner (also known as monkey wrench)
--tetra pack (you know, regular milk carton material)
--the propeller
--the zipper
--the safety match (the kind we use today)
--the turbo car engine
--the modern telephone (where mouthpiece and speaker where on one piece, not two separate)
--the ball bearing
to name some of the most prominent...
ciao ragazzi!
Jonte
Portuguese
Vassalising Spain
Originally posted by Trip
The Dutch UU is the **** and the Portuguese UU is the ****.
Oh, and the **** UU is the ****.
Good enough?
We will be in and our Pike will get your horses down
wildWolverine
L'Etat, c'est moi
Charlemagne. His name was Charlemagne.
Two words: Alexander Nevsky
(alright, more than two words): perhaps you are referring to a USA I don't know about, but could you please describe how Sweden "conquered" the United States?
wildWolverine
L'Etat, c'est moi
HA! Reread your history books... The Catholic Inquisition was not as "vicious and barbaric" as often believed. While indeed ill-conceived and horrendously implemented, the fact remains that unless the person brought up on heresy charges was also targeted for political means (hence the "horrendously implemented"), the "heretic" was likely to get off with a slap on the wrist, and an admonition be a better Christian -- i.e., if a rural farmer was brought in for practicing divination, the worst that was likely to happen to him was to make him go to confession. HOWEVER, the Protestant leaders in Northern Europe were incredibly vicious and methodical in executing thousands and thousands of "witches". Let's just agree that it wasn't a particularly bright time for Christians of either the Protestant or Catholic persuasion...
What is this fascination with minutemen for the American UU? The men referred to as "minutemen" were the militia -- with the exceptions of the battles of Concord and Breed's (Bunker) Hill, the militia/minutemen were a total liability to the Continental regulars. Granted, in the south (i.e., South Carolina), many partisan groups proved to be fierce fighters, but again, the militia proved so unreliable, that in one major engagement, Daniel Morgan designed his entire strategy around having the militia (at the center of his line) run at the first sight of the advancing British soldiers.
I still think that a frontiersman would be a good unit -- he could have a movement of two, see farther in forested areas, and have a reasonable attack value. He would need to come reasonably early, say replace the Musketman to be effective. Another possible alternative would be a Conestoga Wagon or Wagon Train -- a means of moving settlers/workers w/o the need to accompany them w/ military units to protect them.
edit: Or am I missing the point entirely, and are you referring to Minuteman Missiles?
Doc Tsiolkovski
Deity
No, his name was Karl der Große, or more unversal Carolus Magnus. He was born in Germany, spoke German, spent most of his life in Germany, died in Germany and is buried in Germany; and if there's something like a capitol, then it's Aachen, in - Germany. We don't claim to have him exclusively for us, since he ruled over large parts of Europe including parts of Italy, Croatia, Spain, so Carolus Magnus is fine, but one thing he was not: A Frenchman.
wildWolverine
L'Etat, c'est moi
I know both the French and the Germans will hate this, but the French ARE German... The Franks, much more than the remaining Gallic people created France as it is today...
Jon Shafer
Civilization 5 Designer
I know you're in, and Mere said not to bet on the Portuguese Pike.Originally posted by Portuguese
We will be in and our Pike will get your horses down
