ELITEOFWARMAN8
King
Who got the better football league, us Americans or the Canadians?
What you guys think?
What you guys think?
NFL .vs. CFL
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warpus
Sommerswerd asked me to change this
England, of course 
I don't follow American or Canadian football, but you can't really compare the leagues, can you? They seem to be miles apart in terms of quality, the money involved, etc.
Which one is better I'm not sure, but when I was in highschool our high school coach seemed to think that the Canadian game flows a bit better because the pitch is larger. Biased? probably.
I don't follow American or Canadian football, but you can't really compare the leagues, can you? They seem to be miles apart in terms of quality, the money involved, etc.
Which one is better I'm not sure, but when I was in highschool our high school coach seemed to think that the Canadian game flows a bit better because the pitch is larger. Biased? probably.
Canadian rules are better. For two main reasons:
1) The three down game forces teams to be more aggressive, making draws and other typically low yardage plays less common. In addition by making it harder to sustain a drive, field position becomes even more important.
The increased importance of field position can make for more strategic choices. For example, in Canadian football it isn't rare for a team to intentionally conceed a safety in order to get better field position.
2) Timing rules allow for more comebacks from further behind. First, the shorter play clock prevents the offense cannot chew up near as much time and in the last 3 minutes of a half the clock stops on every play (for plays that do not stop the clock in the US, the time resumes when the play is whistled in). This means exciting end games are more common because a team needs less time on the clock to score compared to American football.
In general, the other rules I could take or leave, though I think the more liberal backfield movement and having the goalposts on the goal-line help to balance the three down game. Meanwhile, I am not so much a fan of the single on punts because it removes the need to skillfully place a kick downfield, but it generates some more strategic considerations as to running the ball out of the endzone and risking terrible field position or giving up a point for a touchback.
As for NFL vs CFL, I prefer the NFL for a few reasons:
Most importantly it is more accessible with most games on Sundays and having more options to watch in the afternoon timeslots, while it is less convenient to watch CFL games on Thursday, Friday and Saturday and when I can watch a game there is usually only one on so if it is a bad game I am SOL whereas with the NFL I can just change the channel and get another game or two.
Second, the talent level is simply higher. The players are better than their CFL counterparts. There is some NFL level talent in the CFL, often in players deemed to be to small for the NFL, but overall there is a significant decrease in talent.
Lastly, my dad only watched the NFL and I had an NFL game on the Sega Genesis as a kid, so that is what I got into and developed ties to a couple teams.
That said, all else being equal, I would pick the Canadian game every time.
Visorslash
Deity
You misspelt NRL.
ELITEOFWARMAN8
King
Who you guys think would win between a NFL and CFL team though?
NFL. No question
They just have more skilled players. Remember only the top CFL players earn more than a minimum salary of an NFL rookie (the top CFL quarterbacks earn $400,000 as opposed to $390,000 base for NFL rookies). It is hard to attract talent from the NFL under those situations and without the money from the NFL TV contracts there is no way to pay them a competitive wage. Back when revenue was primarily ticket based wages were comparable and the skill gap was much smaller, though the NFL was always the better league.
They just have more skilled players. Remember only the top CFL players earn more than a minimum salary of an NFL rookie (the top CFL quarterbacks earn $400,000 as opposed to $390,000 base for NFL rookies). It is hard to attract talent from the NFL under those situations and without the money from the NFL TV contracts there is no way to pay them a competitive wage. Back when revenue was primarily ticket based wages were comparable and the skill gap was much smaller, though the NFL was always the better league.
If only the Roughriders wouldn't keep blocking a new Ottawa team from being the Rough Riders again.
SuperBeaverInc.
Groucho
Since we are on the topic, I would just like to point out that the Buffalo Bills are the only NFL team to lose to a CFL team.
I think a better question might be "who would win, Alabama or the worst CFL team?"
Any NFL squad should beat a CFL team by at least 30. The salary disparity would make it nearly impossible for a CFL squad to keep a player who was good enough and wanted to play in the NFL. Guys who successfully make the jump are fairly rare.
Any NFL squad should beat a CFL team by at least 30. The salary disparity would make it nearly impossible for a CFL squad to keep a player who was good enough and wanted to play in the NFL. Guys who successfully make the jump are fairly rare.
Assuming CFL rules, the CFL team. Alabama's strengths don't lend itself well to the CFL. For the same reason, if it were just a one off game, I think a CFL team would be competitive against a bad NFL team.
Whys that? I would think Alabama's superior defensive push and open field tackling would be effective, in a more pass-centric league. I don't think a college team could out athlete even a terrible minor league football team.
You take last years Colts, with no preparation time to adjust their playbook and strategy, against the Lions under Canadian rules then I might give the CFL team a shot at it. Under more fair circumstances those two teams might play a somewhat close game with teh Colts winning. But really, no CFL team in the past 20 years can compete with an NFL team in that same period. It is like asking if an AHL team could take on the NHL or a AAA baseball team could challenge an MLB team. It just isn't happening, but they might be able to keep it close and get lucky by maximizing the advantage from rule differences.
As for CFL vs NCAA, I would put my money on the CFL team under almost any circumstances. While the best NCAA players go to the NFL only a few more are good enough to get to the CFL, the vast majority cannot compete in either league.
In addition most of the developed and experienced talent in the CFL would compare favourably with the best under-developed talent in the NCAA, even that which is NFL bound because they still expected grow as they join pro teams.
Woah woah. Don't you go callin no CFL no minor league!
In the CFL, you can't jam a receiver more than 1 yard from the line. Our receivers can be motioning (at the same time mind you) before the snap on the line. Our backfield can be running towards the line at the snap (even at the same time as the receivers move). A CFL pitch is also a wider field. When you combine that with the lack of jamming, you have a pass-centric league that is hard to defend against. Good form on open-field tackles aren't going to stop the CFL team from moving the ball.
Having watched NCAA athletes transition to the CFL, it takes time to adjust. So much of your training must be undone. The differences are weird:
Link to video.
... seriously weird. From the moment of the 4th kick, the game is over, since even if Toronto recovered, it was a 1-point score for Montreal. Hell, if Montreal's missed field goal had cleared the endzone, it was still a 1-point score.
Not quite, until the pileup it was quite possible for an Argo (or Al) to knock the ball out of the endzone and send it to overtime.
I wouldn't jump on downtown for ministerpretting your post. the reference to "Alamaba's strengths" implies to me there was something unique about them to make the particularly unsuited, such as a offence based on rushing up the middle with a weak quarterback, a poor secondary, and/or a generally slow team.
What you included in that post applies to all American football teams.
Bowsling
Deity
Three or four years ago, assuming Canadian rules and home field advantage and all, I think the Montréal Allouettes could've beaten one of the crappy NFL teams like Buffalo or something. Aside from that single example of one very good CFL team, the NFL guys would win every time.
CFL is so much better though. Not that I'm biased at all.
CFL is so much better though. Not that I'm biased at all.
ELITEOFWARMAN8
King
Nah. Most CFL players who came to the NFL are flops. CFL is a amaetuer league IMO.
Bowsling
Deity
I'm not saying that CFL players are better than NFL players. Nobody could hope to compete with the disgustingly large budget of the NFL. But it's certainly a better game to watch.
sophie
Break My Heart
By definition the CFL is not an amateur league.
