Noble's Club

[Rub'Rum]

We still haven't figured out the rate of games though, I mean, I haven't been able to play the previous game at all (I'm still at the second checkpoint so I haven't read most conversation there, be careful not to spoil it in here, hehe). I know we can't wait for everybody all the time and I don't mind skipping sometimes, but it would seem nice to know beforehand how much time a game will be the current game. I had suggested one game every 2 weeks, if you guys want to go as fast as one per week, okay. Just not sure how many people with a daytime job will be able to follow us Anyway, maybe it doesn't need to be precise, but... Yeah.

 

[Rex rgis of Ter]

For the next game I'm in Favour of a Pericles, Ghandi, or Dutch game. I think we need lots of peace. Also, archipelago maps would make it interesting.

 

[grandad1982]

@ SimonL
I agree about timing still. The only reason I'm near the end is because I couldn't stop my self on my days off! Once every two weeks still sounds good to. What we could do is post the new games starting postion and talk about it and what we might do etc, before posting the save. This give the faster players time to think about the next game (and maybe play some of the other games posted on this site!) whilst those who have less time can finish old games.

Also I was wondering about playing a few quike games up to 10AD just to practice my opening moves or trying to get lots of early beakers or hammers etc. Would anyone else want to do the same. I don't think it matter if we use different maps and leaders - it just adds to the mix and instuctive value! What do you guys think?

 

[Groogaroo]

Once every two weeks still sounds good to. What we could do is post the new games starting postion and talk about it and what we might do etc, before posting the save.?

Agreed, I'm lucky in that I have alot of free time at the moment and forget that other people have jobs and stuff!

 

[Krick19]

There's been too much pansying. I think we should go for Justinian(cataphrachts), Rome(Praetorians), or Khmer, just cuz I'm curious to see them used well. If we do another "peaceful leader", I'm gonna go crazy. Ramesses wasn't that peaceful, but he's still directed towards "wonder-crazy".

 

[r_rolo1]

May I suggest GK?......

 

[Krick19]

Ooh, good suggestion.

 

[Groogaroo]

I'm up for a leader with more of a war angle

The reason I mentioned wanting a map with a more crowded start is because I fancy taking part in lots of short early wars.

Cyrus, is a excellent warmonger Cha/Imp, Immortals.

Justinian, another great leader, suits a specialist style economy, which suits me.

Genghis Khan. Well, If you want warring then I guess this is the way to go!

I must admit, when it comes to war I do like to play a charismatic leader, it does make things a tad easier. But I guess its not good to get used to a crutch of any kind.

Bring on war! if that what everyone else wants.

 

[Bleys]

I like the idea of a war-monger game, then actually tend to be easier for me. Cyrus was one of my favorite leaders in Vanilla, I have never played GK, Justinian seems like a reasonable choice too, I never played him either. We have time to discuss it though.

I think we will be keeping to a 2-week schedule of games, with target post dates the 1st and 15th of each month. Even folks who cant play them all can always go back and play older games, I have done that with a bunch of old games in many series.

There is another game that you faster players can look at if you wish. Rolo made us 2 maps for Ramesses, and I posted a link to the alternate version in the Ramesses thread. Feel free to play it and even post your results right in the Ramesses thread, after all, this is supposed to be a casual, learning series.

 

[r_rolo1]

I suggested GK mainly because he's all war flavoured and one of the things that I had dificulty in learning in noble is how and when to wage war ( a problem that I saw in some of the Ramesses games.... ). Another point is how to leverage the UU, that is clearly out of the more normal axe rush strat ( and the game is clearly fun with them )

I also agree ( in spite of being a lurker.... but I love this kind of games. You can always learn a thing or two reading them, even if we are currently playing above that level ) that you should calendarize the games... not everyone has the avaliability of playing this kind of games besides the weekends besides a 1-2 h in the night and 2 weeks normally gives time to people to finish the games. And it gives some more predictability....

 

[KaytieKat]

Hi

I dont mind playing mongols. I might would rather try KK than GK just to be able to have creative hehe but GK fine too.

Cyrus IS fun. Well actually I think persia is VERY fun no matter who the leader is. Awesome UU and their UB is practically a free Expansive trait so they work well with pretty much ANY leader if you ever want to try unrestricted leader games. But they might be a lil too similar to egypt in style. LIke with both you tech AH first to see where the horseys are and if colse you pump out the chariot UU and go say Hi and if not you try more peaceful approach till later.

I have never played justininan BUT I did play Byzantines using unrestricted leaders and Yakhoweryouspellitob. And if you EVER had ww problems then Hippodrome can be FUN. When everything is Ideal you get get the SAME amount of happyfaces at 30% culture slider that a regular theater would need 70% to get.

But all time best warmonger I think is Shaka and using Impi diplomacy to expand early and be HUGE before the other civs or rather the civs that end up surviving know what hit em hehe.

Other warmonger games that might be interesting is BootyCall and her giant pair of traits. Maybe try her and Celts on highlands map or maybe something like Monty and his Jags on rainforest or Arboria map.

Nappy could also be fun. His traits work nice for both peace and war and you can try a musketeer rampage which would be a change for going to war in the BC's.

Those are just some thoughts but really I would probably try just about anything I even have fun with unrestricted leader combos. I think probably next combo I will try will be Wang Chung and mali--protective/skirmishers finanical/mint sounds like nice synergies hehe. Maybe do it while waiting for next game.

Kaytie

 

[Jaaboo]

Hello;

I have a few questions about these games, because I am thinking about joining in on the fun. I typically play on Warlord (in Warlords) but I just recently got BtS and once I get used to it, I think I'm ready for the jump to Noble. I feel I can win easy on Warlord, but I do often make some bad calls or build stuff I don't need to (often simply because I can! muaha).

First, is the unofficial patch required to play these games? Is there anything else required other than just to download the save and have at em? I'm not sure if I will have a lot of time to play/post my games, but even an offline shadow watching the better players play and post might be helpful for me.

Anyway, I love these threads with a lot of people playing, I've learned a lot!

 

[r_rolo1]

I can anwser that....

Bhruic's patch does not alter the WB saves ( or the regular ones ) , so you can play with or without it as it pleases you.

And it is just needed to download and put it in My Games/Saves/Worldbuilder and run it as a scenario from the game ( or simply double click it ... does not work with all configurations ( dunno why ) ).

 

[grandad1982]

Jaaboo. The point of these games is that all levels - well us lower level players - can join in and hopefully learn something in the process!

If you want to make the jump to noble or above then this is a perfect oppertunity. Also while you don't need to post reports, its always fun for us to read them when they come. Reporting will help us help you, and maybe help you help us! What a mouthfull.

 

[Groogaroo]

Hey Jaaboo,

I can only mirror what grandad said, joining in the fun has already really improved my game.

Before nobles club, I struggled on noble, and could never get anywhere on prince. But even after two games, I won my first prince victory. It's already been mentioned, posting a report isn't manditory or anything, but you can even post to ask for help when your stuck! Which is what I do... maybe too much

As for the next leader, maybe Kaytiekat is right, cyrus would be to similar in opening stratagy to the egyptians. All of the others mentioned some great.

 

[r_rolo1]

IMHO the simple fact of thinking of posting a game help a player to perform better ingame... mainly because it forces you to think of why you are doing that move ( and the fact of don't want to look too bad possibly has something to do with that as that ). At least that's why I started to play SGs....

 

[Jaaboo]

Well okay then, I think I'll (try to, time permitting, as always!) join in the fun!

 

[Bleys]

Welcome aboard Jaaboo. We are trying to keep this really informal, so no one feels intimidated in any way. No questions are too dumb to post, no strat is to kooky to try out if you want too, any situation where you can learn something is a positive one in my book.

We are setting up the games as World Builder saves so that folks can play with the mod, level, and speed they are most comfortable with. That way, if you prefer Marathon and Noble with BUG mod, you can play the same map and leader as someone who prefers Normal and Prince with the HOF mod. Posting progress reports not only helps you organize your own thoughts, but it allows you to see how different people approached the same situations.

So jump right in, no worries, you can even play on Warlord level if you really wish too, but I think you will find your play to be much improved in short order. Heck, I am thinking of going up to Monarch on the next one (I play the LHCs on Monarch, but I only have 1 "actual" non-replay win in 4 tries, heh). And feel free to name your preferences for maps and leaders. We are trying to choose both with an eye on learning how best to play various traits and various maps. In fact, the last installment has 2 maps with the same leader (Ramesses), both of which offer fairly different sets of circumstances.

 

[Krick19]

If anyone's interested, I'd really like to do an SG on the side.

 

[Bleys]

I have never played an SG, and would be willing to participate in one among our little gang. I am not exactly sure how they work, its one of those things I plan to look into if the regular games I play get stale. So far, though, no sign of that for me, I cant stop playing, LOL. I think an SG would be a perfect diversion for those of us who play the regular games faster than the schedule.