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Constitution of ________

We, the people of _________, in order to create an atmosphere of
Friendship, Cooperation, Pride and Fun establish these Articles of Constitution. We uphold the beliefs that each citizen must have an equal voice in the government and ruling of the nation, that government itself is a construct of and servant of the people, that rules, regulations, and laws should be established to Facilitate the active participation of the people and to make possible the dreams and desires of the citizens.


Article I. Citizens of _________
All Civfanatics Forum users who register in the Citizen
Registries are considered citizens of ______. Citizens have the right to assemble, the right to free movement, the right to free speech and the right to a fair trial.

Article II. Laws of our nation

Governing rules shall consist of these Articles of the Constitution, such amendments that shall follow and lower forms of law that may be implemented. No lower law shall be valid that contradicts these Articles. No article of this Constitution or lower Law shall be valid that contradicts the Civfanatic forum rules.

Article III. Government of _______

The government of ________ will consist of the Central Government consisting of the Executive Branch, Legislative Branch and Judicial Branch. And the Local Government made up of City Mayors. The overall control of the Nation shall rest in the hands of the _______ people. Therefore all elected officials must follow the will of the people.

Article IV. Executive Branch

a) The Head of State for _____ is and shall always be the Citizens of _____. The People of ______ shall elect a MAIN LEADER to act as the leader of the Executive Branch.

b) The Executive branch is responsible for determining and implementing the will of the People. It is headed by the MAIN LEADER who shall be the primary Designated Player.

c) The MAIN LEADER shall take direction from the other leaders of the Executive Branch, Mayors and other elected and appointed officials via the turnchat instruction thread. The MAIN LEADER shall be tasked with control of worker actions. The MAIN LEADER shall organism the executive branch and interdepartmental cooperation.

d) The DOMESTIC LEADER shall be responsible for wonder building, including Prebuilds and Governing cities that do not have a Mayor. The DOMESTIC LEADER shall also monitor the overall happiness of _______ and Cultural Affairs.

e) The FOREIGN LEADER shall be responsible for declaring war and concluding peace, for constructing embassies in foreign lands and for signing any other non-trade agreements with other nations. The FOREIGN LEADER shall also be responsible gathering intelligence information on foreign nations and monitoring the world wide diplomatic situation. The FOREIGN LEADER is in control of all covert operations this includes planting of spies, stealing plans, sabotaging production, stealing technology and counter Espionage operations.

f) The MILITARY LEADER shall be responsible for all military strategy and troop activities. The MILITARY LEADER shall use the military forces of _______ to defend the nation and carry out the policies set out by the FOREIGN LEADER.

g) The ECONOMIC LEADER shall be responsible for all trade both foreign and domestic. They are responsible for the gathering and trading luxury and strategic resources. They are responsible for tech trades. The ECONOMIC LEADER is also responsible for the National Budget and all tasks included within. The ECONOMIC LEADER shall be responsible for all research and setting technology queues. The ECONOMIC LEADER is in charge of adjusting the slider settings.


Article V. Legislative Branch

The Legislative Branch will be the Citizens Assembly. The Citizens Assembly will be formed of the entirety of the citizenry and is responsible for the drafting of new Laws and Amendments to the Constitution. The House will present all proposed Articles, Amendments and Laws to the Judicial Branch for review.

Article VI. The Judicial Branch

The Judicial Branch will consist of one Chief Justice, one Public Defender and a Judge Advocate. These three justices are tasked with upholding the Constitution and its supporting laws in a fair and impartial manner. The Chief Justice shall have the additional responsibility to organize and conduct the affairs of the Judicial Branch. The Public Defender will act as council to an Accused individual and shall be responsible for upholding the rights of the citizens. The Judge Advocate will act as the prosecution and is responsible for upholding the rules and laws of ______.

Article VII: Local Government
Each Mayor shall determine any policies and procedures needed to carry out their duties. Mayors are responsible for the care, management, use of the cities, and the settling of build queues, allocation of labourers on tiles, population rushes and drafting of citizen soldiers. Also mayors are responsible for the individual happiness of there cities and to ensure that all of the citizens of their cities have food and water.
Mayors may organize Civic Government for their individual cities to achieve the above goals. The Mayor remains legally responsible for carrying out of his duties regardless of the Civic Government.

ARTICLE VIII: Freedom of Information
All elected officials are charged with the duty to post enough information for the citizens to make a informed decision. This includes information from the save, discussions, and past polls. Any citizen of the demogame may demand a minister to supply more information. An elected official may appoint a citizen to do this task for them.



Article IX: Rights reserved to the people
As provided by Article A of this constitution, all actions not forbidden by forum rules, or by this Constitution, are presumed to be within the right of every citizen. Actions prescribed by this Constitution may be substituted by other similar actions, provided such substitution lies within the spirit of these rules. Each city created by a ______ settler shall have one elected mayor. Any cities obtained through other means shall are governed by an appropriate minister.

Article X: Appointment of Leaders
a) No person shall hold multiple positions of leadership (Executive, Judiciary, Mayor or Deputy) simultaneously, nor shall have more than one accepted nomination at the commencement of the general election.

b) All elected positions shall have a fixed term of one month. Each position will be granted to the candidate receiving the largest number of votes in that election. In the event of a tie between two or more front runners, a runoff poll shall be opened between those candidates only. This poll shall run for 2 days, and be repeated as often as needed to resolve the tie.

c) All executive and Mayor Positions shall have deputy. The Deputy will be permitted to conduct the affairs of the office as directed, or during a planned Absence of the elected official. The Deputy shall is considered an agent of the Minister/Mayor if no instructions have been posted for an office within 24 hours of the upcoming Game Session, the deputy for that office may post the official instructions for the office.

d) The Judiciary does not use deputies. In the event of an Absence, a pro-tem justice(s) may be appointed by the Chief Justice (or Judge Advocate if the Chief Justice If absent) and confirmed by the MAIN LEADER and the remaining justice if not also absent. If both the Chief Justice and the Judge Advocate are absent, the Public Defender may appoint pro-tems to the other seats, with MAIN LEADERers approval.

e) The MAIN LEADER will appoint a citizen to any vacant office. If a deputy exists for that office, the MAIN LEADER must appoint that citizen. This appointment may be challenged by any citizen by that citizen posting a confirmation poll within 24 hours of the appointment. If in the event that the MAIN LEADERers office is vacant, the chief justice shall nominate a citizen for MAIN LEADER. The candidate that the chief justice nominates shall be approved by both the public defender and the judge advocate. All of the above appoints may be challenged by an appointment poll.

Article XI: Game Play
all irreversible game actions must progress during a scheduled game session while reversible game actions (i.e. build queues) that adhere to legal instructions can be prepared offline before the scheduled game session.
a) An instruction thread must be created at least 2 days before the scheduled turnchat. All official instructions must be posted in the current instruction thread. Instructions must be clear and defined. Officials must post their instructions at least one hour before the game session. Officials may make changes to their instructions up to an hour before the game session, so long as those changes are clearly noted.

b) The Designated Player shall be charged with the creation of a date and time for all game play sessions. The DP must specify when scheduling the game play session (or when posting the TCIT) whether it will be an online or offline game play session. Any citizen may create a confirmation poll if they disagree with any particulars for a scheduled game session. Any such poll must run for at least 24 hours and be considered final at the start of the scheduled game session.

c) Commission of any game action by any person other than the Designated Player while carrying out their duties that is not instantly reversible without reloading the save is strictly forbidden. Exception: Determining options in the renegotiation of Peace agreements requires an action of acceptance or war to exit the bargain screen. This may be done but the game must be immediately closed without saving.


Article XII: Amendments

As this is intended to be a living document, and can change, this Constitution may be amended as outlined below.
a) A Proposed Poll post must be posted in the discussion thread for the amendment for 24 hours before submission to the Judiciary for review.
b) This post must include the current text and the proposed text.
c) Judicial approval of the Amendment A poll which is open for at least 96 hours, which states the text of the proposed section(s), the text of the section(s) being replaced and the posing the question in the form of Yes/No/Abstain.
d) To pass, the proposal must meet one of the following criteria: a. A 2/3 majority of all votes cast. b. A simple majority of all votes cast and the total number of votes exceeds 60% of the Census.
e) The Census is defined as the average number of votes cast, dropping fractions, in each of the contested elections in the most recent general elections. Should more than 3 citizens request it within a 48 hour period in the Judiciary thread; the Chief Justice will create a poll to determine a true Census. The results of this poll will override any previous Census.
f)From Time to time the constitution may be edited to remove spelling, or gramaical errors ect. These are not ammendments, but must be noted in the judical thread and the public defender must be informed


Article XIII: National Budget

The National Budgets consists of our national treasury (lump sum of gold), but does not include our additional gold per turn. It should be compiled and posted by the exchequer each turnchat. It will include a list of the funds required for rushes, upgrades, trades, and espionage. Any instruction that is not listed inside of the national budget is to be considered void. If the ECONOMIC LEADER decides to give certain elected officials a base sum of gold to use, then this must also be included within the national budget, with the maximum amount that can be used by that leader.
 
What do you think? it needs to have the preamble changed because this needs to be potry like. i just changed the old one. And it fits for a 5cc as well. The reason i left most of the offices is because with only 5 citys (plus conquered) we will need something fun for people to do. I expaned the Presidents office so its more fun. comment on stuff thats wrong or missing. and also i left allot of stuff out that i think should immeidate made into law like polling standards, naming conventions and judical procedure.
 
i really like it. it's really nice and doesn't seem to overcomplicate things. my only suggestion is to get rid of the Minister of Technology and give their powers to the Chancellor of the Exchequer. Leaving the tech minister will have too many positions, IMO.
 
I only have a few quarms about this consitution, of of wich is calling the Prime Minister. Personaly, I feel its more confortable and traditional to call our DP and head of government the President. Also, the time of the polls should be at least 3 days.
 
the times and polls, i just copyed stright from the current one. the titles i changed because people seemed interested in this before. and as i stated the citizens as a whole are consided the head of state
 
Edit: Removed by request and replaced with a newer post below.
 
we should name the titles based on what civ we play. for example if we do Greece next game, we should stick with the Consuls and such.
 
It's easy on the eyes, but I need to return home and feed the family (RL) before commenting on the substance will be possible.

CG, I might be mistaken on this as far as relative numbers go, but I'm pretty sure there are as many if not more countries with a nominal parliment system as there are with a nominal president system. (nominal used in the sense that it's called PM / President, though the details may differ radically from UK / US). Some of the RL countries with a president are not good representatives of democracy anyway -- take Iraq of 3+ years ago as an example.

The names matter less than the substance -- take a look at the duties of the various people without regard to names, and see if you like the division of work. ;)
 
DaveShack said:
Some of the RL countries with a president are not good representatives of democracy anyway -- take Iraq of 3+ years ago as an example.

What about Cuba? Everyone seems to forget about Cuba after the fall of the USSR :p.

Perhaps its a good evidence to help me support the title change to Prime Minister since I dont want to see a title that symbolized Democracy that has been tarnished by Saddam and Fidel Castro.
 
If this gets support or if it gets changed but is popular, then i should post it for people to vote on. what steps do i take to turn this into law
 
Here are my comments so far.

  • Many places say "shale", I suspect they should be "shall".
  • Article IV references Governors but Article III refers to Mayors.
  • Minister of Exterior should be in charge of covert operations. Having "in coordination with" is an opening for excessive JRs.
  • Culture is missing -- the duties need to be absorbed by someone.
  • Articles cannot be proposed to the Judiciary because it hasn't been formed yet. Just stick with Amendments and Laws.
  • I would like to see the 3 day rule for TCIT reduced to 2 days so we can play chats more often with fewer turns per chat.
  • The census is used but not defined.
  • In general the grammer, spelling, and punctuation could be cleaned up.
  • There are some things which are not included. I'm not sure if this is intentional, or an oversight. I'd recommend going through the DG5 and DG6 Judicial Reviews and noting things which were unclear, and making sure all of those issues are covered.
  • Naming should be via discussion and voting, since there will not be anywhere enough cities for everyone to have a city named. This needs to be spelled out because many will try to use the old method of either using the CoC, or the mayors just get to pick a name.
 
Many places say "shale", I suspect they should be "shall".
done
Article IV references Governors but Article III refers to Mayors.
done
Minister of Exterior should be in charge of covert operations. Having "in coordination with" is an opening for excessive JRs.
delt to
Articles cannot be proposed to the Judiciary because it hasn't been formed yet. Just stick with Amendments and Laws.
what do you mean, this is meant to be the entire constution
Culture is missing -- the duties need to be absorbed by someone.
Done
I would like to see the 3 day rule for TCIT reduced to 2 days so we can play chats more often with fewer turns per chat.
Done
The census is used but not defined.
Done
In general the grammer, spelling, and punctuation could be cleaned up.
I suck at this, spell check is happy with it, and i took out alot of errors. if someone went over it for me i would be happy
There are some things which are not included. I'm not sure if this is intentional, or an oversight. I'd recommend going through the DG5 and DG6 Judicial Reviews and noting things which were unclear, and making sure all of those issues are covered.
I will look at the JR soon, alot of stuff like Naming rights, polling stanards, Judical procedure, should be made into addtion laws. these cant be made until a constitution is.
Naming should be via discussion and voting, since there will not be anywhere enough cities for everyone to have a city named. This needs to be spelled out because many will try to use the old method of either using the CoC, or the mayors just get to pick a name.
what ever i have no idea about this. i re done the titals to very plain, so that when we pick the name of the civ we can also pick the titals.
 
DaveShack said:
I would like to see the 3 day rule for TCIT reduced to 2 days so we can play chats more often with fewer turns per chat.

no no no. do not do this. i hated it this game, that i only had 3 days to do TCIT and such. i could barely get polls to have a reasonable amount of people voting with 3 days. you want to make it 2 days now. don't do this. IMO, you should make it 1 TC every 4 days, but play more turns per TC. if we have to leave it at 3 so be it, but no way i'm going to do a TCIT every 2 days.
 
greekguy said:
no no no. do not do this. i hated it this game, that i only had 3 days to do TCIT and such. i could barely get polls to have a reasonable amount of people voting with 3 days. you want to make it 2 days now. don't do this. IMO, you should make it 1 TC every 4 days, but play more turns per TC. if we have to leave it at 3 so be it, but no way i'm going to do a TCIT every 2 days.

OK, I can see it from that point of view too. My objection is to long play sessions, which lock me out of a potential 4th (or is it 5th?) run for the top slot. I was thinking to offset playing fewer turns (a necessity if it's me playing them) by doing it more often (too much of a burden on others).

However... what if there is nothing to discuss? We finish 10 turns and the exact same instructions are still good for the next 10. Then the law requires us to wait 3 days where fewer would be ok. Taking this limit out of the constitution and electing people who will play at the pace you want is more flexible. :D
 
For the length of turns, we're playing with significantly fewer cities than in the past.

Let's explicitly state that game sessions can last for up to 20 turn, and can be ended by a direct instruction to do so at a certain point by a leader.

-- Ravensfire
 
Science and Economic both end up responsible for acquiring tech as it's currently written. This is why I pushed for Trade & Tech to be combined in the last game, so that the same leader is responsible for research and tech trading.

Slider settings balance 4 things: tech rate, happieness, treasury, and available GPT for purchases. Resource trades affect luxury slider, tech trades affect science slider, both affect treasury and GPT available for other trades.

Every game we want these areas spread out because they feel like too much for one department, and each time we have trouble determining how to do the split. Maybe we should just accept that they are all interrelated and put everything related to GPT, resources, and tech in the same office?
 
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