North Korea vows to continue missile tests

justoneinpower said:
i don't see why people have a problem with north korea.

I think innaction sits badly with most people, they want to act to show superiority, it's a natural human instinct to preempt what we imagine might happen particularly when we think we are in a superior position, it may have worked in the past, but the issue is far too complicated for us to rely on our instincts.

What exactly do you think makes N Korea not worth the effort to acknowledge?
 
Somehow, Kim Jong II just has the Napolean Complex ;).
 
Sidhe said:
What exactly do you think makes N Korea not worth the effort to acknowledge?

because the government isn't all that bad, it's a step in the right direction, they just don't have the technology or brains to fully control the population, and kim isn't the smartest leader. western media tries to brainwash the masses to believe that north korea is evil. i mean, the north krean government is closer to perfect then, say, the u.s.
 
justoneinpower said:
because the government isn't all that bad, it's a step in the right direction, they just don't have the technology or brains to fully control the population, and kim isn't the smartest leader. western media tries to brainwash the masses to believe that north korea is evil. i mean, the north krean government is closer to perfect then, say, the u.s.

You are wrong. . .

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10791-2004Feb3.html

Now please keep the american bashing relevant.
 
CivGeneral said:
Somehow, Kim Jong II just has the Napolean Complex ;).

:D Most tin pot dictators do, it's over compensation all the way :) Kim's what 5'4 I see your point :D Alexander the Great was 5'1", but he did make a big impression, the drive to overcompensate can lead to great victories or monumental disaster as in Napoleans case.

I'll have to dig out the runts with the title great or greatness thrust upon them. There are few great lanky miltary leaders, Perhaps they weren't bullied at school ;)
 
Sidhe said:
I think Iraq has shown that sometimes instability regardless of the nature of the regime is sometimes the greater of two evils. Although this is a bad example as I'm still undecided as to Iraqs merits.

I think a stable regime is not the devil you think, stability means peace. I must admit I'm not fully behind letting him make his plays without recriminations, it reminds me of England and Hitler, but for now it seems a wiser cause of action, stirring things up is not the best tactic IMO at least for now. Watch and wait, let's see how this thing plays out before we launch preemptive strikes.

Ok. Thought I will say that stability is not good in alot of cases as well. Stability within a tyranny is not good imo.
 
justoneinpower said:
because the government isn't all that bad, it's a step in the right direction, they just don't have the technology or brains to fully control the population, and kim isn't the smartest leader. western media tries to brainwash the masses to believe that north korea is evil. i mean, the north krean government is closer to perfect then, say, the u.s.

Nevermind, I just read your sig, thank god you are only one man, and powerless at that.
 
justoneinpower said:
ok, like i said, north korea isn't perfect, becuase they try to control people by testing weapons on them, wehn other methods are better.

I'm not going to be able to have a civil discussion with someone who advocates tyranny as a rational solution to people's issues. You think the human race is a dog that should be trained and beaten, so be it. I cannot discuss this with you.

/bows out

More on NK for those interested in reality.

http://mingi.typepad.com/blog/2006/02/sunshiners_agai.html

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3071466

http://cryptome.org/dprk-furor/dprk-eyeball.htm

http://www.nysun.com/article/23082

Some easy to find tidbits, I suggest reading the cryptome one, it is interesting.
 
justoneinpower said:
i mean, the north krean government is closer to perfect then, say, the u.s.

Yes, the nation run by a dictator who starves and kills his people and allows his nation to go into poverty while he lives in luxory is so much better then George W.:rolleyes:

Do you read what you post?

What is your idea of perfection? Blind hatred of the US and Bush?
 
Fox Mccloud said:
Yes, the nation run by a dictator who starves and kills his people and allows his nation to go into poverty while he lives in luxory is so much better then George W.:rolleyes:

Do you read what you post?

What is your idea of perfection? Blind hatred of the US and Bush?

I think totalatarianism is his way, read his sig. Have you read brave new world?
 
The Soviet Union had a lot more missiles than North Korea ever will--and the USSR's missiles actually worked.

Those missiles didn't save the USSR, and they won't save North Korea. North Korea's missiles will do exactly one thing: turn North Korea into a target.
 
justoneinpower said:
because the government isn't all that bad, it's a step in the right direction, they just don't have the technology or brains to fully control the population, and kim isn't the smartest leader. western media tries to brainwash the masses to believe that north korea is evil. i mean, the north krean government is closer to perfect then, say, the u.s.


How can you call the NK goverment even CLOSE to perfect???
 
ffman said:
How can you call the NK goverment even CLOSE to perfect???

Familiarize yourself with brave new world and get back to him, if he thinks thats the way so be it. He's young too I think so understand both things.
 
because the government isn't all that bad, it's a step in the right direction, they just don't have the technology or brains to fully control the population, and kim isn't the smartest leader. western media tries to brainwash the masses to believe that north korea is evil. i mean, the north krean government is closer to perfect then, say, the u.s.

You have a lot of growing up to do... Anyways North Korea is attempting to use these missile tests as a bargaining chip, and when countries use threat of nuclear war, where millions of innocents can be killed, there clearly is a problem. Its your own fault if you wanna ignore this, or be lamely "individualistic" in being "id make a good dictator..."
 
Tulkas12 said:
I think totalatarianism is his way, read his sig. Have you read brave new world?

no, and whatever his philosophy, I am still disgueted that he defends Kim Jong Il by saying "At least he is more perfect then the US". It's disgusting...
 
Fox Mccloud said:
no, and whatever his philosophy, I am still disgueted that he defends Kim Jong Il by saying "At least he is more perfect then the US". It's disgusting...

Agreed, but in his defense he is young I think, wondering wth he's doing reading books like that though. . . Was that a reading assignment? Or did he just pick it up? /worries
 
Tulkas12 said:
Familiarize yourself with brave new world and get back to him, if he thinks thats the way so be it. He's young too I think so understand both things.


Oh well. Whatever floats his boat, I reckon.
 
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